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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...Allons-y!
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Welcome to my talk page! Leave me a message here if you have wiki concerns, want to alert me to new Wikia features made to confuse the elderly, or bribe me with cookies.
If you need me to help you out with something, like vandalism, spam, or other issues, make sure you provide links to the article/picture/person in question so I don't have to track all over the wiki for it. Much obliged.
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Hello!
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Terra Fae Odosson - Urrgh...you have such strength, even at the mercy of your memory- TALK - If you continue to seek the girl, Naminé, the shackles will tighten, you'll lose your heart.... and end up becoming Marluxia's pawn!
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I saw one your talk bubbles and had to come to your page. I love Doctor Who! That was hilarious. Vegtable! I also really like your userboxes. The Big Bang Theory one is awesome and wasn't the usesless project one for Lupin III? I got to see the movie just this week. It was great!
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...07:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
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Ah, thank you! Indeed, the "useless object" is from Lupin III; Goemon is my favorite character. There are tons of Lupin movies and most of them are pretty good, but I like Castle of Cagliostro the best. Incidentally, you're welcome to "borrow" any of my non-Kingdom Hearts boxes if you like. If you need help with the code, let me know.
I know there are a couple of other Doctor Who fans around here; if you go in IRC, I'm sure you can start up a TARDIS based conversation no problem. ^_^
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Terra Fae Odosson - Urrgh...you have such strength, even at the mercy of your memory- TALK - If you continue to seek the girl, Naminé, the shackles will tighten, you'll lose your heart.... and end up becoming Marluxia's pawn!
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Sorry if I didn't reply. I only got to see Cagliostro actually. Are any other ones out on DVD? I really enjoyed that one. When we watched it I said to my friend oh he (Goemon) is on my team. I shall surely borrow a couple boxes then. Thanks you.
Go TARDIS!
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Terra Fae Odosson - Urrgh...you have such strength, even at the mercy of your memory- TALK - If you continue to seek the girl, Naminé, the shackles will tighten, you'll lose your heart.... and end up becoming Marluxia's pawn!
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You've seen The Hogfather? That quote is from the best part! I must say you are an awesome person with good taste!
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:17, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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I've read the book; I haven't watched the film all the way through, but I have gotten hold of it and will watch it one of these years. My favorite Lupin III flick after Cagliostro is The Fuma Conspiracy, which you would particularly enjoy as a Goemon fan. Not sure if it's still available, but if you can find it, it's worth a look. The second TV series is also quite well done.
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Mobile Avatars
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 04:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
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I know that the Kingdom Hearts Mobile Avatars is your project but while being stuck inside all day because of illness, I made some avatars that are not yet on your project page. I also made my new talk bubble image as you can see. I can upload them if you want to see them or you are fine with it but if you're not that's okay. I just wanted to let you know. I made these avatars:
- Donald as Court Magician
- Xehanort
- Shadow
- Minute Bomb
- Search Ghost
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:39, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
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Sure, go ahead. I look forward to seeing them. ^_^
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 13:11, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
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Here they are!
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 22:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
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Here are some more and these ones are the special Halloween ones. I didn't make these ones, they were taken from an image on the Mobile website.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:52, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
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To quote my future brother-in-law: "Awesomesauce!" I hadn't even seen the ghost or skeleton before. I'll add them shortly.
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 23:12, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
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Ok, thanks. I would like to do the Dissidia ones but those are too difficult for me. Should the Avatars that were released after each coded episode should be on your page or not?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:30, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
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Yeah, I've been kind of holding off on doing the Dissidia ones for the same reason. I'll get around to them eventually.
And yes, I'd love to have any other official avatars. I'll just make a coded section as well.
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 04:39, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
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Well, the coded ones are all on the Mobile page. Here is my last batch for awhile. The only one I made was the hooded Organization member.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
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Wow, those are sweet! Where'd the Birth by Sleep ones come from?
They be added to the gallery.
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 05:33, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
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They came from here! Unfortunately, Vanitas is hiding behind a tree... Shall I add the coded avatars or will you?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
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Ha! Vanitas is ninja! ^_^ Sure, go ahead and add the coded ones yourself if you like. I'm not sure exactly where they are on the page anyway, so we'll just cut out the middleman.
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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry! Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 05:44, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
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Done! I wonder if they will make a Master Xehanort avatar or the princesses besides Kairi.
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Can i help?--ZACH 02:53, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Remove Warning
I heard you had the same authortiy as KrytenKoro so can you remove my warning from DoorToNothing. I talk to DoorToNothing and he said he can't do anything about it but ask the administor. --Cococrash11 23:26, January 29, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...01:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
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Which one? The one back from October? It's a bit long to be asking for that.
If you're concerned about its appearance, it looks like you're about due for an archiving anyway, and it will at least be off your main talk page. If you need help making an archive, please let one of us know.
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Appearce? No I want the warning record gone. I mean at that time I had no idea how wiki works now I do. So can you please erase the record of the warning? Also its from October. --Cococrash11 08:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
Next time I will be carefull with the first warning thing. --Cococrash11 02:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
Remodelling of the MOS
We were supposed to remodel the MOS somewhere last October but it turns out that the games have been released before we deliberated on anything.
Please join me on this page and raise the issues that you believe need to be raised in the MOS, or anywhere at all.
I'll be waiting ! Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 04:21, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
Cursing on pages
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TheLunarEclipse - "Why do you have the Keyblade?" TALK - "Because I wanted it!"
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Hey, I was on the My Home page, and an annonymous contributor made an edit to Sora under the Back home section. He used the f bomb when in Kairi's letter it said One Sky, He put One ------ sky. Thought I should let you know and have a great rest of the weekend ^_^.
EDIT: Here is the ID:79.65.137.197. Xion4ever and Ultima have gotten him for cursing previously and actually I think Xion told him off for the one on Sora's page. Just thought you would like to know.
DOUBLE EDIT: Hey, XIon got him for the same word on the CHristmas Town page. Hmmmmmmmmm... How many edits will i make to this ^^_^
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Woah easy there ZTG, you don't say I "told him off". I politely told him on his talkpage to quit swearing. Be careful what you say, okay? Also, you don't have to tell how many edits he is doing wrong; a simple link to the vandals page is enough.
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Xion4ever Who am I? — 16:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
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I'll keep an eye on him. If he does it again, let me know. That's his third warning, and that's a'bannin' for a bit.
ETA: And because I noticed I'd forgotten the language issue there, I added it to the Guide. A good reminder, if nothing else. ^_^
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Synthesis articles
Please preserve the format that I've used on these pages; it is the same format that is used for item pages throughout the wiki, and putting it in a bullet format makes the page look even more empty.
If you want to discuss this, I'm available this weekend, but it took a lot of work to do and I'd like to get an agreement first.Glorious CHAOS! 07:43, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
I'm assuming this is about the Gear Component page, right? I actually found having the information clustered in one paragraph very hard to read, and not very well organized. In addition, I know we like to link to the proper article names as often as possible, but to include the full Mission name after every instance of a Component makes it even more awkward. It might also be wise to distinguish the Random Bonus items from the Clear Bonus items a little more directly instead of just throwing a percentage after the Randoms. If you're concerned about empty space, there are always tables, but I think it's more user-friendly to have it empty and readable than "full" and hard to pick out the information needed. BebopKate 08:56, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, so:
- Use Mission number.
- Specify random bonus
I'll fix that right away, could you see if it is still hard to read afterwards?Glorious CHAOS! 10:47, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, much better; that works quite nicely. I like how you separated the chests out from the bonuses, too. BebopKate 20:41, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
- With the "Organization errands", our KH1 synthesis articles group stuff like that with Treasures, and they're essentially of the same nature - do a certain thing, get the item once. Clear bonuses, on the other hand, are farmable, like non-hostile enemy drops.
- I went ahead and removed the game headers from Gear Component like you said, and I guess it would be logical to remove them from other "one-game only" synthesis items, though that's going to be FM, KH2FM, Days, and BBS only.
- If the "Mission #" redirects are working, I don't think we need to hide the full title behind a pipe - besides, we should make sure they are working.
- I would personally prefer "Clear bonus for Mission 32" (or "Random/MG clear bonus"), to fit with the tense of the other entries, if that's okay.Glorious CHAOS! 05:43, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
- That's fine. I wasn't sure exactly which tense was being used, since these are new to the format. Good thought on the errands as well; I hadn't looked at them that way. If you've got a good directive article, I'd be glad to help you reformat the rest to fit in, and make sure new info is in the correct format as well. BebopKate 05:59, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
User avatar page
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Hey. ^_^ If you've got nothing much up your sleeves, I'd like you to take a look at this.
Anything that tickles your fancy ?
EDIT 07:15, February 11, 2010 (UTC) : Also, if you've got nothing much up your sleeves, shall we meet on the IRC ?
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 06:51, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:10, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
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Hah...maaaaybe. ^_- You've been busy I see.
Also, I LOVE the banner you made for KHFR. Way better than anything I could come up with, and nice tribute to your editors.
I might drop into IRC tonight or tomorrow, as it will be the first day in a long time I don't have to a) work or b) hunt for affordable health insurance. This has been a long, long week.
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Suhweet. Ping me when you're there. Because there's something I need to talk to you about, in private.
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:17, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
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Sora's Heartless
Do you think Sora's Heartless is a character in KHI? Before you replied read this:
At that time in KHI when Sora created Sora's Heartless he was falling into darkness and Sora's Heartless took control until Kairi bring Sora back. Sora even commented to Kairi that when he falls into darkness he lost feeling, forget everything and etc. So this proves Sora's Heartless took control when Sora falls into darkness. So Sora's Heartless is a real character.
So that means he is a character in KHI like Xehanort's Heartless. I mean we all know that Lingering Sentiment is Terra but with his soul but they are still diffrent. Sora's Heartless had Sora's Heart but covered with darkness. Its the same logic with Lingering Sentiment and Sora's Heartless.
So what do you think? --Cococrash11 05:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
- Before you even react, please see Talk:Sora's Heartless. There needs to be two sides to the story. Sulu mata engkudu ! 05:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
I was getting to that before you butting in. So which is it a character or a form? --Cococrash11 05:46, February 13, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
- Excusez-moi, butting in ? The full view has to be shown. Sulu mata engkudu ! 05:58, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
I was going to show her the talk page after she replied thank you very much. --Cococrash11 06:05, February 13, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
- Enough. Let's wait for her response. I know how shrewd you are, and I know what you'd do, so I might as well put it to a complete stop. Sulu mata engkudu ! 06:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
Response has been made on the talk page. I shall now take two aspirin and lie down...wow. BebopKate 18:51, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Merci beaucoup ! ^_^ Now, I need to talk to you about something which has been bugging me... by any chance, are you on the IRC ? Sulu mata engkudu ! 02:16, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
Videos and Deletions
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Hey there, Kate. Would you mind see this (at the bottom)?
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Xion4ever Who am I? — 17:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
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Banning
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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What the heck? why is it that on the Queen of Hearts banning template they put have a nice day.
It says: You have been banned from the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Have a nice day. I can't understand it. Oh, I found this out while snooping around the block list ^_^
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Yeah, seriously, the banning templates shouldn't have the line "(Please) have a nice day". It's total irony, and scathing irony for all of us.
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There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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It really is ironic like TNE said. I mean, who wants to be banned (not that anyone wants to be banned) but then told to have a nice day. How would someone have a nice day knowing they have been banned? It is strange sits back and eats a Ferrero Rocher yummy
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I know that for the BBS remodel, I took out the "Have a nice day" phrase. What about the current templates ? Shall I proceed to remove that phrase ?
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:51, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Personaly, yes. I mean seriously, who would want to be told have a nice day after being banned. It sounded good at the time, but we should think of the point of the person getting banned, and how silly (sorry for insulting it) it looks to other users that someone was banned and told to have a good day. Wow, I talk a lot about useless nonsence ^_^
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@BebopKate : Green light ?
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:09, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Did I forget to mention: I don't think she is on right now. Sorry for not saying earlier ='(
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She mailed me not very long ago !
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This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:50, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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My bad! Still I found it, I want to do it. Kidding, TNE, can you if BbK says go?
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Mm, why not.
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:34, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:59, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
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Sorry, I totally missed this. My page has been a bit busy as of late.
Yes, please go ahead and remove those things. No reason to be nasty.
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Hey there...
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Hey there, Kate. Sorry to bother you, again. Prepare the tylenol ^^; Edit, please.
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Xion4ever Who am I? — 02:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Funny, I was just on that page about 5 minutes before you posted the comment ^_^.
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You reminded me
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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The person you just warned about editing wars was doing that to me with Ven's page. He tried to change the beginning to say the connection between him and Sora was explained in BbS, and I kept changing it back to It is explained in the end. Still, I just wanted to bring it to your attention. It is over now so... Do you like McDonald's breakfasts?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:55, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you for letting me know; if there are any further problems, I'd like to hear about them.
Strangely, I haven't eaten at a McDonald's in seven years. But I do like breakfast...
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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7 YEARS! Dang, I just went there this morning with my family. Their Sausage and Egg mcmuffins are the best! Yes, I do agree with you there, breakfast is good. Even though I normally forget to eat it ^_^. Oh, and sorry for undoing the edit you put saying warning 2 on his page. I was trying to get to my home, and I am used to clicking undo, and accidentially clicked it. Still I am sorry and reverted it. I got to use undo again ^_^!
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
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It's cool; thanks for fixing it. ^_^
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Good, I thought "I better fix it fast, I am going to have a warning on my face!" No I didn't mean to, but I did get to press my favorite button again: the undo one! Yay!
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Policy on Edit Warring
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - What have I done... Master... I just... wanted to keep Ven safe. TALK - I can never return home now. I'm a failure. — 05:12, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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Hello, BebopKate. I have a question for you. What is the Wiki's policy on edit warring? The only reason I ask is because DTN delivered me my first warning when the situation was rather pointless.
- This morning, I removed "Playing as" sections of articles and moved them to Mission Mode, where they were better set.
- Werehog21 (the other user got warned for the same thing as I) reverted this.
- To avoid redundancy, I had to undo his edit.
- He undid it
- I had to undo it to remove the redundancy
- I get the warning.
I don't see how this is in any way fair, considering it was only a small scale of three edits, and it stopped right after. If you could please enlighten me, and if you can, remove the cruddy warning, then that'd be much appreciated.
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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I was watching this, and I don't think a warning was in any way warranted on either side. Werehog stopped changing it once ENX told him why he was doing it, unless I'm mistaken.
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 05:20, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for being on my side, Lapis. Yes, that is correct. DTN's warning was senseless, especially in such a small ordeal. His "I think two reverts on either side is counted as warring" is just nonsense he came up with, the "I think" automatically proving it was just opinion. What should have been done was the reception of a "Be careful!" talk bubble messsage instead. The warning was uncalled for. An example of a true edit war would be what took place on Master Eraqus and Vanitas's pages a while back.
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My stance on the issue : COULDN'T SOMEONE HAVE INVESTIGATED BEFOREHAND ?
Until and unless we fully know the situation, we can't slap out warnings. I believe this is something we should all know already.
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But I've learned that deep down, there's a light that never goes out! • TroisNyxÉtienne — 05:23, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - You may be my Master. But I will not... let you hurt my friend! TALK - The darkness...will never have me! — 05:25, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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I'm just as upset as you are, TNE. And it pains me to see that this was again started by a very very SMALL conflict due to the rash nature of a few certain users. To see what happened, check Saïx's history.
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I'm on it. Kate, I'll still need you to help us on this one.
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There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 05:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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DTN pointed out that Werehog just as easily could have stopped reverting the edits because of the warning... but due to how swiftly the warning was placed (almost immediately after ENX gave his reasoning) there's no real way of knowing what stopped it. Our policy is to assume good faith, no? So I still think both warnings should be removed.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:01, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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I had a question for DTN; when he answers it, I'll see what goes on from there.
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - What have I done... Master... I just... wanted to keep Ven safe. TALK - I can never return home now. I'm a failure. — 01:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Hello again, Bebop. Regarding this issue : So it was a seven minute time span between the end of DTN's so-called "war" and the warning reception. Considering it stopped after the explanation, which was given clearly before the warning during which "wars" stopped, I see no purpose for the warning to remain. Whether you've seen DTN's response or not, it was given unjustly and rough patches between DTN and myself clouded his vision in this matter, at least that's my personal opinion. The verdict : The warning should be removed; it was given well after any potential conflict stopped.
I really don't want to get on anyone's bad side, and I really don't want an unjust warning scarring my perfect reception, especially when a more peaceful resolve could have been taken. Please either enlighten me for the future as best as possible, or just get rid of the damn thing so I can finally think straight.
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SUPER SWORD-CHUCKS TALK HERE. — OK, I DOUBT THAT BUT WHATEVER. YEAH, MY ORDERS ARE THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, AND WHO CARES ABOUT THEM. — 02:10, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Hullo, I happened to be lurking when I found this. Anyways, there is a reason for that warning to stay. A "war" is a war, win or lose, both (or all) sides are wrong for being in it.
What I'm trying to say is that you picked a fight here, you got slapped; it's reasonable. This situation could have been handled differently than having your "edit war" (e.g. diplomatically discussing it on yours or Werehog21's talk page) so neither of you would have to deal with a warning on your pages. But it's too late now; you picked your little fight and you end up with that.
Besides, it's just a little warning, it's not like it'll do you any harm for real. Just get used to it... I guess. >.>
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Lemme get this straight, people. If I were to undo, for example, Cococrash's edits for the same reason, would I end up with a warning ? No. Most probably not.
If I were to assign SSC, for example, to pick out a particular person who's relatively new and starting conflict on the page itself, and SSC does the same thing to that user, there's no likelihood of him getting the warning.
I believe this whole matter has been blown slightly out of proportion. Consider the two examples I gave and you'll all understand.
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:17, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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SSC, have you cared to look at the edit history of Saix's page? Does reverting two, two edits constitute and edit war. I think not. It was a misunderstanding on Werehog's part as to why the "Playing as..." sections were removed, and it ended when he learned why. I was not aware that there was such a large time gap between the last edit and the warnings, and it seems unlikely to me that the issue was going t flare up again. Cliff notes version: the warning wasn't warranted.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:49, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Okay, wow. Everyone take a step back here.
First, I do want to say I'm not really sure anyone used their best judgment here. Yes, ENX probably should have raised the issue on the Talk Page. Likewise, DTN could have asked ENX or Werehog what was going on or given them a good faith warning, a subject that we've beaten to death in the forums. And I'm not really sure why I have an entire discussion going on here with members who weren't even involved...ahem.
But anyway, I would also be naive not to note this also part of an underlying tension between DTN and ENX; up until now, I've been too polite to say anything about it, as have a number of other editors. But I think something needs to be said before it boils over into something ugly and we lose one or both of our outstanding contributors over something silly and petty.
ENX and DTN, I've talked to both of you extensively outside of the wiki. You are both intelligent guys who are dedicated to the work you do here and elsewhere. You've both impressed me with your desire to improve things around the wiki, and with your real-life accomplishments. There are some differences in your ages and backgrounds, but ultimately I find the whole tension a bit ironic considering how alike both of you really are in terms of personality ... or perhaps its because of how alike you are. I honestly think both of you need to sit down and talk things out with each other. If you'd like to one day over in IRC, I know I would be willing to mediate if you feel uncomfortable doing so, or if you'd rather have someone else, that would be fine as well. And I don't expect the two of you to become best friends or anything, but just find a mutual area of respect.
But what it comes down to is I don't want to lose two great editors, and more importantly, two good online friends, over a silly wiki about a video game.
I'm going to head to bed soon, and I'd like to give the two of you a chance to really think things over about what's going on, remembering that there is a real person involved on the other side of that talk bubble. If you guys have any questions or comments, leave them here and I'll look them over when I get back from work.
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Ven, Aqua... I'll find some way to make things right. TALK - This light... it's so warm. — 07:12, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Let me apologize first-hand for any spam to BebopKate's talk page. That was a sin even of itself. To Wikians supporting me in this matter, it was appreciated, but this really wasn't the place. To BebopKate herself, I have been discussing stresses with Troisnyxetienne and Xion4ever for some time now about this issue regarding my standard with DTN. I'd love nothing more than for this to cease. It's simply a matter of actually getting it to. DTN and I are both stubborn by nature, it would appear, and we're not exactly "forgiving" of each other. DTN and I should still hold some sort of mediation, yet at the same time we should compromise in this situation : Remove the warning to make me happy, while at the same time, DTN has assurance that I'll be more careful. Simple as that. So long as we both recognize our faults in the end, we can proceed in peace. If both were at fault, there's no reason why one side of the party should suffer.
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Hey, I created my own wiki, and I want to assign an administrator, but I don't know how. Any help would be great!
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:59, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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Are you the wiki Bureaucrat? If so, you'll have to ask Bluer because it's a Bureaucrat's job and as I am a simple admin and have no bloody clue. ^_^
What's your wiki about, out of curiosity?
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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First, I don't know what a Bureaucrat is. Second, I am the only one on the wiki. Thrid, Here is a link:
http://kingdomhearts3fan.wikia.com
It is a fanon like wiki. It is going to be for people to create their ideas on KH3, and post them to let everyone see. I will ask Bluer for that though ^_^
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:11, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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Ah, looks cool. ^_^ But yeah, Bluer knows more about the rest than me; he'll help you out, I'm sure.
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Yeah, He hasn't replied yet. How many are there? Thanks for commenting, but you know it is awefull... for right now! See you later and it is Dan's birthday today!
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 22:06, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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Hey, Bebop. Thanks for your support. Would you mind telling me what an ISNB is? I also need to talk with you on the IRC at your earliest convenience.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:26, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
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I'm actually there now, if you'd like to join our conversation on Final Fantasy XIII perfume. ^_^
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 06:30, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Could we try again? I had something to do at church that my parents neglected to tell me about >_>
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ummm
Hi there. This message is not meant to offend you and I'm terribly sorry if it does. I was just wondering, if you are THAT old (no offence), how come you are playing KH? Ps: Reply on my talk page. FinalMix+ 04:28, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
Kate dtn says i can't add them reason is this
[16:58] <DTN> Are you adding those images to BebopKate's gallery?
[16:58] <wolf5000> yes
[16:58] <DTN> You need to stop, those aren't official.
[16:58] <wolf5000> ok sorry
[16:58] <DTN> Thank you, you may also want to remove those that you have added and nominate them for deletion, unless if you wish to use them in your talk template on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki.
[16:59] <wolf5000> i will get rid of them
[17:02] <wolf5000> no i will use them
[17:02] <DTN> Alright, but remove them from BebopKate's gallery.
[17:02] <wolf5000> done
[17:03] <wolf5000> does it matter that she said i could?
[17:04] <DTN> However, those aren't official.
[17:04] <DTN> For example, your images have the "jpg effect", and that is not in her official sprites.
[17:04] <DTN> But if she said you could, then you should just talk to her about it.
thats what he said.--ZACH 00:09, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
nope i'm 11ZACH 06:13, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
k...ZACH 06:21, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
ok...ZACH 06:26, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Zach, how do I possibly deal with a situation like this... Sulu mata engkudu ! 06:28, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
I think we've managed to work something out, Troisnyx. BebopKate 06:51, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. Thanks. ^_^ Sulu mata engkudu ! 11:12, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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So sorry to stress an already brought up issue, but it had to be done. I was wondering if you had made a decision on taking off ENX's warning or not. (He's a good friend of mine, and I hate to see him depressed). DTN himself stated that edit-warring is defined as reverting an edit 3 times in the same day. ENX only did so twice, so I believe that's justification enough for taking off that warning. What do you think?
EDIT: It has come to my attention that I may have slightly misquoted DTN. For the purpose of clarification, I have copied and pasted his exact words. Sorry for the inconvienience to you, Kate and you, DTN.
DTN said: "Also, are you aware of the "Three Revert Rule", derived from our model wiki, Wikipedia? The Three Revert Rule states that a user should not revert more than three edits on article on any one day. If they do, then the user is definitely considered to be edit warring. Now, this means that it should be plainly obvious that an edit war is taking place once three edits have been reverted by both parties to all users, particularly due to the word "definitely". Any user has the right to judge when they think the revisions have gone "over the top". I saw this case as one of those, since neither side showed any sign of backing down. EternalNothingnessXIII's final comment even began with an agressive statement. You claim that his reasoning made Werehog21 stop, but you really have no confirmation of that. The reason may just as well have been the warning I placed on his talk page."
I saw ENX's last comment and I did not find it to be agressive. Also, it is mentioned that neither one showed sign of backing down, however the warnings were delivered seven minutes after the alleged "edit war" stopped.
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URGENT!
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - What have I done... Master... I just... wanted to keep Ven safe. TALK - I can never return home now. I'm a failure. — 00:09, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
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It has come to my attention that something has transpired on the IRC Channel that needs your attention. It involves many of our best users, and was almost a punishment-deserving affair at the hands of others. Please come on the IRC at your earliest convenience so we may discuss this in a mandatory conversation.
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Pathetic.
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Have you seen DTN's userpage ? >_>
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Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
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I have.
I'm sorry he felt it had to come to this.
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There anything we can do to get him back ? I mean, it was all because of a warning...
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Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 11:23, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
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Meet me on the IRC as soon as possible please. It isn't too urgent, I don't want anyone else knowing about it though! Have a good day!
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That wasn't very nice and infact childish
To tell the truth I've seen the drama with Amelia and its childish. My IP address was 121.220.218.126 . I was scared to tell anyone the truth. I was wrong and I'm sorry! I didn't know it would end up so big. I just imitated what Amy did and wrote lies! Please unblock her. It was my fault. Please don't block me. Jacob 11:26, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Uh-uh. No. I'm not doing this sockpuppet garbage again.
- If you even want to think of coming back, Amy, you need show you're a lot more mature than trying to pull that bull again. You'd better be ready to apologize to a lot of people, and you'd better be ready to act in a responsible manner. And what you're trying to do up there ain't going to cut it.
- You know how to reach me if you are serious. But I'm going to flat out tell you that what you've just attempted has already cast serious doubts on your intentions. BebopKate 06:06, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Just letting you know, Kate, but "Jacob"'s username is actually ArchieAndrewfan3001. He's been causing a few minor issues.--Lapis ofthe Night 06:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I know exactly who it was. That little History link up there comes in quite handy. I appreciate the help though, Lapis.
- And the issues are short-lived; s/he's been blocked. The post on Andrewrox's page speaks volumes as to my suspicions as well. BebopKate 06:18, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Lux
Just dropping in to decategorize your talk page from "User templates". BLUER一番 01:40, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
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Auror Andrachome Of course, your majesty!
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How can I edit without being told its vandalism?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...23:12, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, Auror. Is this about the image issue on your talk page?
If you're new to wiki editing, the best thing I can advise is to ease into it. Fix little things like spelling or grammar, ask around if anything is needed, or get involved in an ongoing project. Also, just look around the wiki to see what we already offer. This will help you see how things are organized and help you practice the skills to tackle the bigger projects.
If you haven't already, I also advise you to look through the Guide For New Members, which links to our more helpful pages, guidelines, and rules. It might give you a better idea of what to do and save you a lot of heartache.
I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, let me know. ^_^
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Auror Andrachome Of course, your majesty!
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Oh! It was about the image issue! Thank You! I'll go read guide right now.
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Hey there...
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Sorry to bother you, but if you have the time could you drop by the IRC please? Thanks!
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Xion4ever Who am I? — 00:03, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
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Sorry about last night, gotta love parents rules about school nights; especially since you came on shortly after I left. >> Saturday should work, I'll be on the IRC all day (unless something pops up, which I seriously doubt). Don't take this as an emergency, although its important, don't let it interrupt the real life. ^^
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Xion4ever Who am I? — 02:21, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
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