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While I am not asking that anything in the article be changed, I would like to hear some thoughts on the subject.}}
While I am not asking that anything in the article be changed, I would like to hear some thoughts on the subject.}}
{{TNE|time=23:45, October 20, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=Wait : you're implying that the castle we first saw '''is''' Villain's Vale ?}}
{{TNE|time=23:45, October 20, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=Wait : you're implying that the castle we first saw '''is''' Villain's Vale ?}}
{{Chris|text=I am not really certain, but it appears as though it could very well be so for several reasons --
It is remarked ''where Maleficent used to reside''.
In the composition of its spires, it appears to be structurally similar to the original (though this case could also be made for the castle in the centre of town).
The circuitry on the walls is similar.
The Lift Stop, Library, Castle Chapel and Grand Hall are not present in the parts of Hollow Bastion accessible from the Postern.
The foundations upon which the castles sit are different.
The waterways are missing from the city part.
The Castle Gates appear to lead nowhere.
I do believe, however, that the castle in the centre of town could be the original after sustaining significant structural damage, or after having both the pipes that dominated the left half of its façade as well as the large heartless emblem.
I would say that the case could be made for either structure being the original, or even for the original being some sort of world akin to Traverse Town that was composed of what remained of the original city and castle, as it appears as though the heartless have already taken the heart of the world, which is ostensibly restored alongside the Destiny Islands, among other places, alongside the vast lands of blue crystal.
This was also my first impression of what the Villains' Vale was intended to be, especially because Diablo and the restored Maleficent appear to operate from it rather than returning to her world of origin.
I may just be overstating a rather egregious error of internal consistency, the fact that Hollow Bastion looks drastically different in ''Kingdom Hearts II'', including a massive change to the castle's structure, without any real explanation, though I really would like more thoughts on the subject.}}

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Would someone mind providing a summary of how to navigate through the jail in the waterway please? I'm having trouble reaching a certain part there, and it might be helpful to others. Thanks.

I think some of the information here should be moved to radiant garden


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FA icon.png Only the information regarding what's below the castle, surely... whatever is connected to the castle itself should be left in Hollow Bastion.

As for the waterway, I think I'll have to replay that section - and if I do, I'll post the solution here.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

Cinderella

Would anyone mind putting a picture of Cinderella on here, not the class version in the awakening, but the actual picture plz. Thanks

Isn't the list of enemies in Hollow Bastion incomplete ?

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FA icon.png As far as I know, the Kingdom Hearts list of enemies in Hollow Bastion only covers Sora's first visit. It doesn't cover Sora's second visit (where there are Red Nocturnes and Large Bodies as well) or even the invisible, powered-up version of the Soldier Heartless which can be found in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix.

Can someone please add them in for me ? Because I've no idea how to edit the enemy list.

Thanks in advance.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

Treasures

Certain treasures were changed around in Final Mix, though the only ones I know of were Royal Crown and Ramuh Belt. Is there anyway for someone to look them up? We need to.Glorious CHAOS! 06:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Something my bro thought

I know this isnt the right place for this but...

My brother thought that this was beasts castle until he played kh2.Xeyj 06:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

were is the hollow bastion located.

please if u will tell me were it is located or what u do to get to him or there. i just got done saveing the queen and she told me to go there

Brith By Sleep Trailer

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TALK - It was the natural thing to do...
in the recent tgs birth by sleep trailer I've read that in a scene there was a castle with a town i guess could this be hollow bastion?
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KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on."
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And?
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Kingdom Hearts Fan
TALK - It was the natural thing to do...
what do you mean "and" i was just wondering if this could be hollow bastion.

This scene was in Radiant Garden, there was Vexen, Xaldin and Lexaeus in their original forms (Sora1954, sorry i can't sign because there's a problem when i do this)

Villain's Vale?

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Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end.
TALK - I would be delighted to talk.
Does it seem to anyone else that Villain's Vale, not the castle shown in Kingdom Hearts II, was the world first shown under the name Hollow Bastion (which literally means "empty fortress")?

I immediately thought that the two were the same due to the circuitry forming the walls in the room in which Pete and Maleficent are shown to meet, for this same sort of apparatus appears behind the walls in Kingdom Hearts though I find myself contradicted by the clockwork pieces of the castle in the centre of town (as well as what appears to be something that could have been the entrance to the original world in the Kingdom Hearts II artwork) and the statement that Aerith makes regarding the original castle having been Ansem's castle (thereby implying that Ansem's study is in an inaccessible basement region).

While I am not asking that anything in the article be changed, I would like to hear some thoughts on the subject.

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FA icon.png Wait : you're implying that the castle we first saw is Villain's Vale ?

This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. TroisNyxÉtienne — 23:45, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

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Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end.
TALK - I would be delighted to talk.
I am not really certain, but it appears as though it could very well be so for several reasons --

It is remarked where Maleficent used to reside. In the composition of its spires, it appears to be structurally similar to the original (though this case could also be made for the castle in the centre of town). The circuitry on the walls is similar. The Lift Stop, Library, Castle Chapel and Grand Hall are not present in the parts of Hollow Bastion accessible from the Postern. The foundations upon which the castles sit are different. The waterways are missing from the city part. The Castle Gates appear to lead nowhere.

I do believe, however, that the castle in the centre of town could be the original after sustaining significant structural damage, or after having both the pipes that dominated the left half of its façade as well as the large heartless emblem.

I would say that the case could be made for either structure being the original, or even for the original being some sort of world akin to Traverse Town that was composed of what remained of the original city and castle, as it appears as though the heartless have already taken the heart of the world, which is ostensibly restored alongside the Destiny Islands, among other places, alongside the vast lands of blue crystal.

This was also my first impression of what the Villains' Vale was intended to be, especially because Diablo and the restored Maleficent appear to operate from it rather than returning to her world of origin.

I may just be overstating a rather egregious error of internal consistency, the fact that Hollow Bastion looks drastically different in Kingdom Hearts II, including a massive change to the castle's structure, without any real explanation, though I really would like more thoughts on the subject.