Talk:Seifer

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:::::I mean...yeah, it's a pretty short scene, it's not really a speech about those concepts. Seifer's tone is derisive, aggressive, and sarcastic. Those are the markers of being insincere. Roxas also clearly didn't interpret it as sincere, as he seems shocked that Seifer had (before the talk) agreed to investigate the Old Mansion with Hayner's gang.

:::::At least in the English version, it's presented as "man, I hate you. Oh, you think it's destiny? Well I hate destiny too, so suuuuure, let's be friends." It comes off as mocking Roxas's retort more than it does any sort of serious, sincere introspection, and illustrates Seifer's anti-social, aggressive personality, similar to how not everything Braig/Xigbar says is honest/sincere.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::I guess it's ''possible'' to read it as a precursor to Seifer's grudging respect for Sora later in the game, but again, that respect is ''grudging'' -- more out of a sense of honor and fair play (hallmarks of Seifer Almasy in FF8 as well) rather than having any fondness for Sora as a person. Final Fantasy Opera Omnia also has a subplot with Seifer that illustrates this kind of personality -- he's ''very'' antisocial, but follows a "code" of knighthood.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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 :::::I mean...yeah, it's a pretty short scene, it's not really a speech about those concepts. Seifer's tone is derisive, aggressive, and sarcastic. Those are the markers of being insincere. Roxas also clearly didn't interpret it as sincere, as he seems shocked that Seifer had (before the talk) agreed to investigate the Old Mansion with Hayner's gang.
 :::::At least in the English version, it's presented as "man, I hate you. Oh, you think it's destiny? Well I hate destiny too, so suuuuure, let's be friends." It comes off as mocking Roxas's retort more than it does any sort of serious, sincere introspection, and illustrates Seifer's anti-social, aggressive personality, similar to how not everything Braig/Xigbar says is honest/sincere.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
+::::::I guess it's ''possible'' to read it as a precursor to Seifer's grudging respect for Sora later in the game, but again, that respect is ''grudging'' -- more out of a sense of honor and fair play (hallmarks of Seifer Almasy in FF8 as well) rather than having any fondness for Sora as a person. Final Fantasy Opera Omnia also has a subplot with Seifer that illustrates this kind of personality -- he's ''very'' antisocial, but follows a "code" of knighthood.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)