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I have tried to cut it down as best as I could. If someone can do better, by all means do so. Origin sections are not meant to detail the full movie- hence the Wikipedia links. A good origin section for a main character, movie wise, would be [[Hercules]]. Not sure if [[Forum:Character Page Improvement|this]] is of any help, but I'll leave it here. {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 23:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
I have tried to cut it down as best as I could. If someone can do better, by all means do so. Origin sections are not meant to detail the full movie- hence the Wikipedia links. A good origin section for a main character, movie wise, would be [[Hercules]]. Not sure if [[Forum:Character Page Improvement|this]] is of any help, but I'll leave it here. {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 23:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
::Well, I did most of the Origins sections when I was off during my holidays in college. I'm still on summer break, and I finished reading some books I wanted to read over the summer, so I'll go and look back on them and see what I can do.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
::Well, I did most of the Origins sections when I was off during my holidays in college. I'm still on summer break, and I finished reading some books I wanted to read over the summer, so I'll go and look back on them and see what I can do.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
== Not Kiara ==
{{EO|time=19:32, 12 July 2014 (UTC)|text=I don't believe this is Kiara... If you look closely at the end of ''The Lion King'', Simba's child looks just like Simba did when he was first presented by Rafiki at the opening of the film, thus Simba's child in ''The Lion King'', which the events in the Pride Lands in ''KHII'' are based off of, would be male. It could just be my own misconception, but Kiara looks much different than the cub in ''The Lion King'' and ''KHII'' both facially, color-wise, et cetera (the lion cub in ''The Lion King'' also has much more pronounced scruffiness on the tip of its head than Kiara does, at least to me; this is typical of male lion cubs in ''The Lion King'' to designate them from female cubs, like Nala). Here are some images for the sake of comparison:
*[http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/Solle_2006/album_7.jpg Young Simba]
*[http://www.animationsource.org/images/users/1247/380.jpg Simba's Child (''The Lion King'')]
*[http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140116011911/lionking/images/3/37/FattyKiara.png Young Kiara (''The Lion King II: Simba's Pride'')]
Notice how similar young SImba and his child in ''The Lion King'' look. Obviously ''The Lion King II'' uses a different coloring and art style than ''The Lion King'', but something about the young Kiara just screams "girl" to me, whereas I can't see the lion cub from ''The Lion King'' any other way but as a male, given the identical appearance (overall) to Simba when he was that age.
I personally find dubbing this article "Kiara" to be a bit too speculative and presumptuous, when the character in question wasn't even named in ''KHII''. Yes, anyone who knows ''The Lion King II'' can say that Simba has one child with Nala, and that is Kiara. However, in terms of ''Kingdom Hearts'', this is conjecture. As stated once by KrytenKoro on another article's talk page, "This Wiki doesn't deal in conjecture."
I would like to suggest renaming this article "Simba's Child" or something along those lines. That way, we can overlook the uncertainty <s>and the spontaneous sex change of this lion cub</s>. I know there's some strange "backstory" or "fan-franchise" regarding ''The Lion King'' that deals with Scar's childhood, other children of Simba, et cetera, but I think that's taking things a little too far to suggest that "What if the child from ''The Lion King'' and Kiara are two different cubs?"}}