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So, as far as Kingdom Hearts III goes, rather than mention that Xion replicated Saix's Lunatic and fighting style several times, would we be able to instead mention Xion's ability to copy more vaguely in the Abilities section and then also include the Berserker in the Gallery under her weapons. It's interesting too because Xion didn't summon her replica Keyblade until Xemnas told her to kill Lea. It seems that it was because Xemnas reminded her of her past with Axel, but it's never really elaborated on. Also, Xion's face is not seen again until after she makes contact with Sora, which suggests that her Heart wasn't released from Sora until that point, but again, it's never really talked about. (Levi657 (talk) 17:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC))

Probably opening a can of worms here

But to me, it seems fairly obvious that Xion would qualify as trans (which, while still frustrating me that Nomura seemed to in some ways make her magical trans-ness the cause of her misery, does a lot to redeem her character arc by portraying her "good" ending as identifying as female).

Is this fair to state in the wiki? If I found notable articles discussing it, could I add it?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

That's solely opinion, and not allowed on the Wiki, as far as I'm concerned. We cover canon information, in which the Xion the story is concerned about is strictly female. Yes, she is intended to turn into Roxas/Sora, but this has nothing to do with her gender, in-universe or out. The furthest you could technically go is to say Xion's gender varies based on who looks at her, or how many of Sora's memories she has (enough to become a copy of him on Day 357). You could find the best fan-essay in the world, but adding "info" taken from such things goes completely against our policy here. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 22:07, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Definitely a can of worms, you're not wrong. It's tough because the "anatomy" of replicas isn't really covered. Are they created to be the body of a specific person before being given the memories, data, heart, etc. of the person inhabiting them to influence their structure? When we see "blank" replicas in 3 they are like mannequins, completely blank slates and presumably sexless. Based on that and her initial appearances in Days, I don't see Xion as really having a gender until she has an identity for herself at all, based on how Roxas ends up seeing her. And given that this series never really covers gender identity at all, whether for Xion or anyone else, it doesn't seem like a relevant topic for anything beyond fan discussion, how someone might resonate with similar struggles based on her experience's similarity to trans-related struggles, etc. LightRoxas 00:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I viewed Xion's struggle as coping and learning to accept her eventual reality that she would have to return to Sora and disappear from existence. She only appeared to Roxas as Sora for a few minutes. Trying to frame it as anything else, like a struggle with gender identity issues, comes across as reaching. If you think Xion's misery was due to anything related to gender, then I think you missed the point of Days entirely. If we can't even mention blatantly obvious stuff like the Elrena/Larxene and Lauriam/Marluxia connections on the wiki, then I don't see how linking to fan essays about how Xion's plight was actually about gender identity would be somehow okay. I thought we aren't really supposed to care about fan interpretation on very strict wikis like this, otherwise we'd be mentioning all the Sora x Riku stuff out there. Soroxas (talk) 02:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)