Forum:Future of The Keyhole

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Today, the wiki's account received this email:

This email is being sent to the KHWiki on behalf of The Keyhole and its staff, because of your affiliation with us. We would like to inform you that we, the long serving staff of The Keyhole, are abandoning this wiki. While the site won’t disappear due to FANDOM’s policies, we will no longer be moderating The Keyhole. At this current time, there are no other active users, so no one will be stepping into our current positions until further notice. You are more than welcome to keep your affiliation with The Keyhole, however be warned that whoever may take over the site may not necessarily share the values, techniques, policies, etc. that we held. We’d ask you respond within a week if you wish to cut ties with The Keyhole. If no response is received within that amount of time, we will leave the link up, and you will remain affiliated with The Keyhole.

If you have any further questions regarding The Keyhole and our collective retirement, please see this forum: https://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:**Important:_Please_Read.**

After viewing the forum, feel free to reply directly to this message, or send a message on discord to: Chaineh#5758 or KeybladeSpyMaster#4933

If no action is taken, Thank you for the past 12 years, and may your heart be your guiding key to Kingdom Hearts III.

-The Keyhole Staff

So, The Keyhole is being abandoned and anybody can take over. With that in mind, we have to decide if we want to stay affiliated with them or not.

I say we stop being affiliated until we know who is taking over and what they're planning to do with it. It is highly likely that the new staff of the Keyhole will want to compete with us, instead of being partners, like the Keyhole is now.

Please share your thoughts as soon as possible, so we can reply on time. TheSilentHero 16:32, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

That's surprising. I didn't think the staff would retired with KHIII so near. Looking at the Keyhole's RC, I definitely won't say it's completely abandoned, either. I can see users still editing it, like Aixon, DarkMaster, FinalRest, and even Byzantinefire, who's going under the name "Valyrian Wildfire" now. As KH is a huge franchise, I believe that the active community users will eventually decide who among them will help moderate the Keyhole. Right now, all we can do is watch and see how things unfold within the week. That said, I agree with TheSilentHero.

The Keyhole has acted more of a fanon wiki than a encyclopedia website, allowing speculation, cosplay images, fanfics, and other fan-related content onto their site. I do suspect that, whoever the new staff will be, will continue to follow that tradition. It's a good place for fans of the series who dislike our more professional policies (e.g. no speculation or fan-related content) to go and still contribute to the overall fandom in their own way. I'm not sure about whether they would favor competition over partnership, because that will depend on the new staff, but given the long history the KH franchise has and how time-consuming editing is, it is highly unlikely that will compete with us due to the amount of work that will have to do on the mainspace and reorganizing the community. While our community is small like theirs, the KHWiki and its articles are more up-to-date in certain areas. I personally never found the partnership between the Keyhole and KHWiki to be all that beneficial (it's not like our partnership with the KHUX Wiki), so I'm fine with the KHWiki cutting ties with them, but objectively speaking, keeping the affiliation might be a good idea to let other users who find our policies disagreeable to gravitate there and vice versa, as the KHWiki is more up-to-date and fans who want factually accurate information would come here. I am more concerned with the possibility of plagiarism, as it's a very likely occurrence between splinter wikis, but I suppose it's too early to worry about that.--NinjaSheik 20:02, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

To clarify Ninja, FR and Aixon will be leaving as soon as the week is done. DM only came back yesterday, so if he wants to take over the wiki, that's on him. Byz also expressed interest on leadership. That's up to wikia. Chainoffire 20:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for the clarification! I'm not familiar who's on the staff, and was simply looking at the RC to see who is active. If DM and Byzantinefire are expressing interest in taking it over, then it seems the Keyhole won't be without staff members. Though, if it's Byzantinefire, I do have some concerns about affiliation with the Keyhole, given his animosity towards the users here.--NinjaSheik 20:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

I've gotten some other users from other wikis that are interested. However, know that they may/may not share our values, beliefs, policies, etc that we shared. So that is something to consider as well. Chainoffire 00:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: So to give you all an update on what's going on, we've informed Wikia (now called FANDOM) on the situation regarding the site. After Sunday, they will be taking the reigns on the site until its caught up in info we've been missing from previous titles in preparation for Kingdom Hearts III. In that time they'll be looking at the community and choosing users to take over from there. That being said, I don't believe that the current situation of a sister site would be beneficial for both parties. In my opinion, either you could remain as normal affiliates or cut ties altogether. I don't know how they'll feel on the issue, but thought I'd give you a heads up. Chainoffire 03:22, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

ohhhh...joy."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

OK, so I think we should definitely stop being "sister sites", especially if Wikia themselves are taking over, and kick The Keyhole out of KHWV for now.

@NinjaSheik: I'm not so sure the new staff will follow the Keyhole's current policies. Right now a lot of pages are lists, with each individual name linking to us. I think it's highly likely that whoever will take over, wants to cover everything themselves, like we do, especially since a lot of people seem to have a problem with out strict policies.

As for the affiliation itself, like I said before, I think we should de-affiliate for now, and if the new staff wants to, we can always re-affiliate later. TheSilentHero 17:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC)