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::I didn't psychoanalyze anything or anyone. :/ ''He'' put it out there. I just corrected him and explained it a little bit. In fact, I'm even a little bit offended that you guys would outright delete all of it. It wasn't a fight, or even a confrontation, or even drama or anything. Making it go away or pretending doesn't help anyone, even if you overreact. :< --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 06:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC) | ::I didn't psychoanalyze anything or anyone. :/ ''He'' put it out there. I just corrected him and explained it a little bit. In fact, I'm even a little bit offended that you guys would outright delete all of it. It wasn't a fight, or even a confrontation, or even drama or anything. Making it go away or pretending doesn't help anyone, even if you overreact. :< --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 06:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC) | ||
:::Don't downplay what happened. Byzantinefire got offended by your "explanation" of "vulnerable narcissism", which you linked directly to him and even rehashed past incidents involving him, as if you were trying to diagnosis him. Call it whatever you will, that doesn't change the fact that you crossed a line and insulted Byzantinefire based off conjecture. He got offended and asked me to remove it, though since I was in college classes at the time, KrytenKoro had removed it and told all of you guys to stop. What happened above was, without a doubt, drama, which would have escalated further if Kryten didn't intervene. Ignis, [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ignis&diff=715351&oldid=714543 you have already been warned once before for personally attacking another user], and what is occurred above could be seen as a personal attack against Byzantinefire. Again, I don't get where all this hostility is coming from, but seeing as you two are constantly butting heads with one another, I suggest you two try to work together at the [[Forum:Heartless Manufactory|Heartless Manufactory]] in order to make amends.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC) | :::Don't downplay what happened. Byzantinefire got offended by your "explanation" of "vulnerable narcissism", which you linked directly to him and even rehashed past incidents involving him, as if you were trying to diagnosis him. Call it whatever you will, that doesn't change the fact that you crossed a line and insulted Byzantinefire based off conjecture. He got offended and asked me to remove it, though since I was in college classes at the time, KrytenKoro had removed it and told all of you guys to stop. What happened above was, without a doubt, drama, which would have escalated further if Kryten didn't intervene. Ignis, [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ignis&diff=715351&oldid=714543 you have already been warned once before for personally attacking another user], and what is occurred above could be seen as a personal attack against Byzantinefire. Again, I don't get where all this hostility is coming from, but seeing as you two are constantly butting heads with one another, I suggest you two try to work together at the [[Forum:Heartless Manufactory|Heartless Manufactory]] in order to make amends.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC) | ||
::::Maybe I'll just avoid discussion pages altogether. I've made it clear top to bottom that I wasn't being facetious - that it wasn't any kind of accusation (again, THAT word or train of thought is fucking offensive in this context, not just to me, but hundreds of millions of people who live with the stigma), that it was a ''correction and explanation'' (again, HE brought up the subject), but I can't even talk simple science without pissing someone off. What's next, hm? Is 2+2=4 gonna piss someone else off next? I didn't downplay anything. ''YOU'' did by treating it as an accusation and diagnosis. And that? THAT pisses me off. That offends ''me''. And, by the way, congratulations. ''You'' must made this into drama. I would've let it be right before you jumped in and made it worse just now. And what's worse...I really liked you before this. >_> So with that, I'll take your advice and go to the Heartless Manufactory. But past that, I'm done with user discussions. Rex jumps in and turns everything into an ordeal. Byzantine really obnoxiously, then gets offended when someone offers a scientific explanation for something. And you...really suck at mediating it all. =_= --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 01:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC) | ::::Maybe I'll just avoid discussion pages altogether. I've made it clear top to bottom that I wasn't being facetious - that it wasn't any kind of accusation (again, THAT word or train of thought is fucking offensive in this context, not just to me, but hundreds of millions of people who live with the stigma), that it was a ''correction and explanation'' (again, HE brought up the subject), but I can't even talk simple science without pissing someone off. What's next, hm? Is 2+2=4 gonna piss someone else off next? I didn't downplay anything. ''YOU'' did by treating it as an accusation and diagnosis. And that? THAT pisses me off. That offends ''me''. And, by the way, congratulations. ''You'' must made this into drama. I would've let it be right before you jumped in and made it worse just now. And what's worse...I really liked you before this. >_> So with that, I'll take your advice and go to the Heartless Manufactory. But past that, I'm done with user discussions. Rex jumps in and turns everything into an ordeal, and for some reason always has a pointless bone to pick with me... Byzantine acts really obnoxiously sometimes, then gets offended when someone offers a scientific explanation for something. And you...really suck at mediating it all. Not much incentive for me for social interaction beyond the usual wiki business. =_= --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 01:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC) |
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Super Special Announcement
https://twitter.com/shonenjump/status/810010343405682688 Your thoughts on its confirmation? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 07:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- --Ignis (talk) 17:55, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- SuperSajuuk is just as lovable as usual. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 19:24, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- I read about the announcement this morning. I even know about the Boruto anime getting launched! :D I'm not all that thrilled about the idea of a live-action Hollywood film for Naruto series, though. Let's face it: Hollywood is going to making it tank. Doing a live-action Hollywood film based off a manga? C'mon, that never works out well. But I am excited about Boruto getting an anime series! :D I was hoping for it. I might have stopped editing on the Narutopedia for my own personal reasons, but I am still very much a big fan of Naruto!
- I sense sarcasm there... ^__^; I still visit the Narutopedia every day, so I know that jerk haven't changed much since I left. The Narutopedia grammar has fallen down drastically since I left, too. :( I see so many mistakes on the pages now, and whoever does the episodes' summaries doesn't seem to believe in spacing out the paragraphs, either.--NinjaSheik 21:00, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Edge of Tomorrow/Live Die Repeat worked out well. That was a movie based off a manga based off a light novel! --Ignis (talk) 00:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- Never watched the film or really heard much about it. Still, that isn't a very good counterargument. ^_^; That film, as you said, was based off a novel. I only said that films based off manga never work well. Hollywood botches up too much when it comes to films based off manga. Never works well. People find a lot to complain about already with that Death Note film that's currently in the making.--NinjaSheik 20:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- No, I never said it was based off a novel. It was based off a manga based off a novel lol. The movie contains elements that were in the manga but not in the novel - it's closer to the manga than to the book, if you will. I can pretty much guarantee you that the film botches nothing. It's a rarity, sure, but at least it gives me hope for the Ghost in the Shell film. --Ignis (talk) 21:09, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- I never read the Ghost in the Shell before, so I can't really comment on it. I know there's a lot of complaints about it already. Sci-Fi manga are easier to do, but doing something like a huge and complex as Naruto? That'd be impossible to do properly, with the huge cast of characters, the battle sequences, the jutsus, settings, and the like.--NinjaSheik 22:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. The last thing we want is what happened with Dragonball Evolution. I think I'll wait until I read the reviews for the movie before I decide whether or not I want to watch it. Rex Ronald Rilander (talk) 05:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Lol, I would think Brick killing a guy with a trident summed up my reaction to this perfectly. But I'm not one to kill the idea of live action adaptations entirely. As I've said, they can be done well because they've been done well before. In fact, Ninja, that's your homework assignment! Go watch the live-action Rurouni Kenshin movies, and tell me it can't be done! Ah, but that's not egregious enough! So I go back to my previous comment - go watch Edge of Tomorrow. That movie probably has the worst case of Americanization ever - an ordinary Japanese man is turned into a dashing American hero! Played by Tom Cruise, no less! Yet, I dare you to tell me you didn't enjoy the hell out of it. >:P You won't be able to. Hell, just look at this! --Ignis (talk) 07:01, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- As Cloud typically says, "Not interested." Lol. XD Sorry, but I never was interested in Rurouni Kenshin films, or Edge of Tomorrow. I like Tom Cruise, but the actors/actresses featuring the films aren't a deciding factor to whether I watch something or not. I'm extremely picky about what I watch/read, and I have a strong personal belief not to let reviews and ratings on websites, especially a website like Rotten Tomatoes, to influence what I watch. Even if the reviews are typically good or bad, if the series/shows or whatever doesn't peak my interest, then I don't watch it. Plus, I'm way behind on a lot of stuff because of college, so I have enough things to do/watch/read before the winter break ends. XD--NinjaSheik 20:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Take a leap of faith lol. What's the worst that could happen? ;) --Ignis (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hmm, I waste my time checking something out that I'm not really interested in? :P Like I said, never been interested in the Rurouni Kenshin series. I never even watched the anime. And like I said before, I'm way behind on other things because of college, and have more pressing things to attend to before next semester. I honestly don't have the time to waste on things I have no interest in. ^__^;--NinjaSheik 20:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- Take a leap of faith lol. What's the worst that could happen? ;) --Ignis (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- I never read the Ghost in the Shell before, so I can't really comment on it. I know there's a lot of complaints about it already. Sci-Fi manga are easier to do, but doing something like a huge and complex as Naruto? That'd be impossible to do properly, with the huge cast of characters, the battle sequences, the jutsus, settings, and the like.--NinjaSheik 22:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- No, I never said it was based off a novel. It was based off a manga based off a novel lol. The movie contains elements that were in the manga but not in the novel - it's closer to the manga than to the book, if you will. I can pretty much guarantee you that the film botches nothing. It's a rarity, sure, but at least it gives me hope for the Ghost in the Shell film. --Ignis (talk) 21:09, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- Never watched the film or really heard much about it. Still, that isn't a very good counterargument. ^_^; That film, as you said, was based off a novel. I only said that films based off manga never work well. Hollywood botches up too much when it comes to films based off manga. Never works well. People find a lot to complain about already with that Death Note film that's currently in the making.--NinjaSheik 20:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- Edge of Tomorrow/Live Die Repeat worked out well. That was a movie based off a manga based off a light novel! --Ignis (talk) 00:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Discord Channel
I made a discord channel. https://discordapp.com/channels/272088543478677516/272088543478677516 Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw the forum just now. But you know I don't really go to the IRC all that much to begin with. The KHWiki's on-site IRC is more convenient to use, anyway. I'm not going to create an account there when I can just chat to users on the IRC. Still, thanks for letting me know. :)--NinjaSheik 20:49, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- You can use voice and video conversations on Discord channels and would be good for podcasts and looks better then a IRC plus you can fix spelling mistakes with discord so it would be worth making a discord account besides doesn't KHWiki require you to register in the same way. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- But you don't have to register to use IRC lol. --Ignis (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- But Discord is cooler and better and is being used by more and more users. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 23:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- Honestly, "cool features" never really appeals to me. I don't care what features something has or how popular it is. Efficiency is more important to me. I think the on-site IRC is more convenient since:
- But you don't have to register to use IRC lol. --Ignis (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- A.) You don't even need an account to sign into it.
- B.) As it's on-site, you don't have to leave the wiki to go to a different site just to talk to other users.
- C.) The Discord Channel allows users to change their text, but I think that's one of the down sides of it. IRC channels are typically disabled from other wikias because how much they are abused by users. Changing text when a conversation gets out of hand can eliminate evidence of a user's wrongdoings. Our IRC doesn't, which preserves all evidence of a user's misbehavior as long as someone screencaps it.
- D.) I hardly think anyone is going to be comfortable having a voice and/or video conversations.--NinjaSheik 20:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Well if anyone wants Podcasts and thev Magazine to return Discord is the way. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Well....I personally wouldn't mind the magazine making a comeback. I always rather like it personally, but...other than me, was there really any kind of audience for it? --Ignis (talk) 22:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- There was me. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Personally, I never really cared much for the magazine or podcasts. I think they took too much time away from users, which is why they eventually just stopped doing it. First and foremost, this is an encyclopedia website, not so much as a fansite like KHInsider. In any case, I'm not interested in the Discord Channel.--NinjaSheik 21:10, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- Can you still make the channel official? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 22:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- I....don't think that should be the basis of your decision, Ninja. Whether you're personally interested in it. You should look at it from a perspective of whether it benefits the Wiki, or detracts from it. As I'm not a mod, my opinion is irrelevant, but I think you already know what I think on the matter. --Ignis (talk) 23:01, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- Whoa, whoa, okay, time out, people! I think there's some sort of misunderstanding going here. ^_^; First, Byzantinefire, the KHWiki is a community of users. It's not ruled by just one user. I can't and won't make anything official. Everything is decided by the community. If I recall, you made the Discord Channel for the wiki without even consulting the community whether or not if everyone wants it. Like I said, I can't make anything official. This is a community, and as a community, this is something all users should have a voice in, preferably before you created the account and then informed us about it.
- Second, Ignis, what decision? All I did was offer my opinion. I never said anything about getting rid of the podcasts or magazines. For starters, I was never in charge of it. Volunteered users are the ones who came up with the idea and went with it. I had zero part in the decision of the magazine and never really associated myself with it. If the rest of the community wants to continue with it, that's fine since it's something they want to do. Just because I am indifferent about it, that doesn't mean I'm going to oppose it, either. So, I'm not sure where you got the assumption that I made a decision about anything. Again, everything is decided by the community, not just one user.--NinjaSheik 23:41, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- Exactly what community the Wiki is mostly semi active and i already made a forum post so no one really seems to care about it. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 00:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Isn't that right there your answer then? No one cares enough for it. --Ignis (talk) 01:04, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- I don't accept apathy. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 01:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Byzantinefire, you created the forum after you created the channel for the KHWiki, without consulting the KHWiki community about it first. You're asking me to make it official without bothering to consult the other users about this first. I suggest that if you want to make it official, you have to alert the community of it. The whole community.--NinjaSheik 21:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- And how do you suppose i should do that leave a message on everyones wall? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ninja, can you post a link to the forum thread in the sitenotice?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Sure thing, Kryten. I usually don't meddle with the sitenotice, though, so is there anything in particular you want me to put on the sitenotice aside a link to the forum thread?--NinjaSheik 01:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 02:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Next time, though, Byzantinefire, discuss this with the community first before you decide to create something that we're not even sure we're going to use first. It's fine to be enthusiastic about something, please suggest creating something for the wiki first, not create it already and then inform the community about with allowing other users to have a voice in the decision-making.--NinjaSheik 23:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 02:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Sure thing, Kryten. I usually don't meddle with the sitenotice, though, so is there anything in particular you want me to put on the sitenotice aside a link to the forum thread?--NinjaSheik 01:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ninja, can you post a link to the forum thread in the sitenotice?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- And how do you suppose i should do that leave a message on everyones wall? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Byzantinefire, you created the forum after you created the channel for the KHWiki, without consulting the KHWiki community about it first. You're asking me to make it official without bothering to consult the other users about this first. I suggest that if you want to make it official, you have to alert the community of it. The whole community.--NinjaSheik 21:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- I don't accept apathy. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 01:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Isn't that right there your answer then? No one cares enough for it. --Ignis (talk) 01:04, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Exactly what community the Wiki is mostly semi active and i already made a forum post so no one really seems to care about it. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 00:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Personally, I never really cared much for the magazine or podcasts. I think they took too much time away from users, which is why they eventually just stopped doing it. First and foremost, this is an encyclopedia website, not so much as a fansite like KHInsider. In any case, I'm not interested in the Discord Channel.--NinjaSheik 21:10, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
- There was me. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Well....I personally wouldn't mind the magazine making a comeback. I always rather like it personally, but...other than me, was there really any kind of audience for it? --Ignis (talk) 22:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Well if anyone wants Podcasts and thev Magazine to return Discord is the way. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- D.) I hardly think anyone is going to be comfortable having a voice and/or video conversations.--NinjaSheik 20:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Video overhaul
I want to start overhauling some of the really outdated videos we have on here, starting with stuff like boss battles. As an example, replace Kurt Zisa's video with one from 1.5. Much better quality, and it keeps in line with keeping up with latest iterations. But after looking around, I haven't really seen any guidelines we have on here on the matter. Do we have any sort of protocol for this? Like, only from particular channels? Do we contact the uploaders and ask for permission? Y'know, things like that. --Ignis (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- The KHWiki is, in fact, affiliated with several YT channels. Have been for a while, and though I am not privy about the details of the agreement between the YT users, I think it's safe to say that we are free to use their videos on our wiki. Cyberman65 is my favorite YT user for KH videos.--NinjaSheik 21:08, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Super. :D Thanks. I'll get around to it tonight. --Ignis (talk) 03:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Cyberman65 doesn't have individual boss fights - just the optional ones... Screw it. I put up whoever uploads the best ones. If they don't want it here, it'll be removed promptly. Though I've never heard of a youtube user who doesn't like the additional views... --Ignis (talk) 18:35, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Have you tried the other YT accounts?--NinjaSheik 18:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, they're all extremely outdated. --Ignis (talk) 20:25, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- You know what really amazes me, though? Doing this, it's shockingly hard to find a video where the uploader displays this apparently rare skill of maintaining the ability to shut the fuck up. Absolutely EVERYONE has a whole lot of utterly worthless nothing to talk about for five minutes at a time. It's criminally difficult to find a video where it's just pure undiluted gameplay, without being contaminated by useless, pointless drivel the entire way through. --Ignis (talk) 20:33, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ahahaha...^_^; I know what you mean. Not all YT users are like that, though. Typing in "No commentary" helps narrow down the search, but it is annoying to go through videos up YT for gameplay videos. Takes a lot of time. Honestly, I have reservations about using gameplay videos on the KHWiki due to legal issues that often comes with YT gameplay videos. I'm not privy to the exact details of it all, but despite the fact that are people making an actual living and earning thousands of dollars a year just by playing video games and uploading it on YT, it's not really legal. That's why pure, undiluted gameplay videos are hard to find, I think. Those are the videos that are usually taken down.--NinjaSheik 22:17, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- A bunch of them on here have actually been taken down - it's one of the reasons why I'm doing this. But in general, most companies aren't very militant about it. Tiny amounts of ad revenue for the uploaders, essentially free marketing for the publishers. Finding vids of the flagship games isn't that hard - it's Unchained that's the bitch. --Ignis (talk) 04:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- I have a bunch of individual no-commentary videos from KH1FM (PS3), if that helps. Ultima Spark (talk) 23:30, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. ^_^ It does. --Ignis (talk) 04:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- As far as using non-affiliated accounts, it's definitely the most polite to ask them for permission to mirror first. As far as talking, as long as they're giving advice on how to fight the boss it should be okay. We have our own youtube channel, as well (I think Ninja mentioned above), and if anyone would like to make a project of uploading needed videos we can arrange handing the keys to that account over for them to upload to (I think Erry has them right now)."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:07, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. ^_^ It does. --Ignis (talk) 04:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ahahaha...^_^; I know what you mean. Not all YT users are like that, though. Typing in "No commentary" helps narrow down the search, but it is annoying to go through videos up YT for gameplay videos. Takes a lot of time. Honestly, I have reservations about using gameplay videos on the KHWiki due to legal issues that often comes with YT gameplay videos. I'm not privy to the exact details of it all, but despite the fact that are people making an actual living and earning thousands of dollars a year just by playing video games and uploading it on YT, it's not really legal. That's why pure, undiluted gameplay videos are hard to find, I think. Those are the videos that are usually taken down.--NinjaSheik 22:17, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- Have you tried the other YT accounts?--NinjaSheik 18:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Sorry! I've been away the last two days. Just got back tonight. I....I shit you not, I slept in my university club room the last two nights. =_= Oh, and there was a bloody strong thunderstorm all night last night, so technically I slept just one night! I'll resume getting everything updated tonight. --Ignis (talk) 03:27, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Xehanort and Yhwach
You notice there are many similarities between Xehanort and Yhwach like voice actors and precognition you don't suppose Xehanort can actually alter the future at will. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 04:29, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Uh... I think you have the wrong talk page. ^_^; I don't know who this Yhwach character is.--NinjaSheik 20:58, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- No i have the right one you do read Bleach right? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Umm, no. I don't know where you got that idea from. I never mentioned ever liking Bleach. I've never been interested in the series.--NinjaSheik 23:27, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Really i assume everyone who reads Jump reads Bleach. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Uhm...sorry man, but pestering people on their talk pages about your Jump wiki doesn't automatically mean they read ___________ or _____________... That's like...a super obtuse train of thought. @_@ --Ignis (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I did not bring up that wiki i brought up Jump in general can't you even tell the difference. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 03:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Look, you really should stop bothering people over things they more-likely-than-not don't have an interest in; it's only going cause more irritation toward you. Ultima Spark (talk) 04:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I assumed she was interested in Bleach and you don't get to talk you have been mostly been inactive and now is acting harsh and rude to a user you know absolutely nothing about you should have criticized Ignis but butting in not me i actually kind of respected you but now i feel insulted for not taking my side and accusing me of advertising good day Ultima. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 04:51, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Look, you really should stop bothering people over things they more-likely-than-not don't have an interest in; it's only going cause more irritation toward you. Ultima Spark (talk) 04:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I did not bring up that wiki i brought up Jump in general can't you even tell the difference. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 03:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Uhm...sorry man, but pestering people on their talk pages about your Jump wiki doesn't automatically mean they read ___________ or _____________... That's like...a super obtuse train of thought. @_@ --Ignis (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Really i assume everyone who reads Jump reads Bleach. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Umm, no. I don't know where you got that idea from. I never mentioned ever liking Bleach. I've never been interested in the series.--NinjaSheik 23:27, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- No i have the right one you do read Bleach right? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Again sorry about how this turned out Shiek this conversation was just supposed to be only us. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 04:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I think i might have PTSD or maybe just a Persecutory delusion. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 05:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I've got a Master's in psychology and psycho-pharmacology, and technically speaking my area of research focus is positive psychology and practical and therapeutic applications for hallucinogens (at the end of next year, I will officially be DOCTOR Iggy!), buuuuut...it kind of looks to me like it's vulnerable narcissism (VN for short). Now, again...I'm not a psychiatrist, but narcissism does cross over into abnormal psychology territory. VN is characterized by a compulsive need to overcompensate and stick out in order to mask a chronic self-dislike and overall feeling of lack of self-worth. Sometimes, this is projected with a lack of regard towards the feelings, thoughts and opinions of others. Emotional manipulation is also a go-to defense mechanism in order to justify unwanted behaviors, like guilt-tripping. In your case, it's your Wiki. You compulsively shove it down everyone's throats regardless of whether they're interested or even can work on it, and when they do express that disinterest or dismay with your method of approach, you regress immediately into defensive mode. The kicker is your wiki itself - it's pretty much irrelevant in that everything it supposedly covers, is covered elsewhere in far more comprehensive wikis. So, this is really just your own personal project. Now, don't take this the wrong way! I'm not trying to be a dick! It's just, well, first step to fixing a problem is identifying it (Contrary to popular belief! "Admitting" is like...maybe the second or third, and only in personal cases). I'm a scientist, man. And science is awesome and boneless at the same time. And in the case of Yhwach (who, by the way, is an utterly fucking horrible villain, IMO - cept his mustache), you projected! You sought a common ground with Ninja, and subconsciously falsely reminded yourself that she shares one of your interests due to a past discussion - mainly the Wiki, which is why I brought it up again lol. It's pretty scary how almost everything can be explained, huh. --Ignis (talk) 05:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- NinjaShiek Would it be alright if i just remove this huge mess called a message from your wall. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 05:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I've got a Master's in psychology and psycho-pharmacology, and technically speaking my area of research focus is positive psychology and practical and therapeutic applications for hallucinogens (at the end of next year, I will officially be DOCTOR Iggy!), buuuuut...it kind of looks to me like it's vulnerable narcissism (VN for short). Now, again...I'm not a psychiatrist, but narcissism does cross over into abnormal psychology territory. VN is characterized by a compulsive need to overcompensate and stick out in order to mask a chronic self-dislike and overall feeling of lack of self-worth. Sometimes, this is projected with a lack of regard towards the feelings, thoughts and opinions of others. Emotional manipulation is also a go-to defense mechanism in order to justify unwanted behaviors, like guilt-tripping. In your case, it's your Wiki. You compulsively shove it down everyone's throats regardless of whether they're interested or even can work on it, and when they do express that disinterest or dismay with your method of approach, you regress immediately into defensive mode. The kicker is your wiki itself - it's pretty much irrelevant in that everything it supposedly covers, is covered elsewhere in far more comprehensive wikis. So, this is really just your own personal project. Now, don't take this the wrong way! I'm not trying to be a dick! It's just, well, first step to fixing a problem is identifying it (Contrary to popular belief! "Admitting" is like...maybe the second or third, and only in personal cases). I'm a scientist, man. And science is awesome and boneless at the same time. And in the case of Yhwach (who, by the way, is an utterly fucking horrible villain, IMO - cept his mustache), you projected! You sought a common ground with Ninja, and subconsciously falsely reminded yourself that she shares one of your interests due to a past discussion - mainly the Wiki, which is why I brought it up again lol. It's pretty scary how almost everything can be explained, huh. --Ignis (talk) 05:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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STOP IT. All of you."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:27, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, seriously, guys? I get home from college to find another fight has broken out on my talk page, forcing KrytenKoro to intervene and take the argument off my page (which, by the way, I reverted. Last I checked, removing content from talk pages is against the rules and this count as evidence as misbehavior). This is getting ridiculous, and I'm getting really annoyed with both you, Ignis, and you, Byzantinefire. This isn't the first time the two of you got into a disagreement, and you've been warned in the past for personally attacking each other. If anything, another warning should be issued out to both of you for what happened above. Also, let's get things a few things straight here:
- 1.) Byzantinefire, I don't like Bleach. Never have, and possibly never will. Please don't assume things about people. There are plenty of fans who I am friends with that read from WSJ and only a fan of only a few of the works there. While their choice of words may have been a bit blunt, Ignis and Ultima Spark didn't really mean harm by what they say. Again, you really shouldn't just assume things about people.
- 2.) That being said, Ignis, I don't appreciate you trying to psychoanalyze another user on the KHWiki. You crossed a line there.
- 3.) Look, I honestly don't why the two of you are always so hostile to one another. Several times, you two act as if you are trying to purposefully provoke the other, and that goes especially for you, Ignis. I don't mean to sound mean, but when Byzantinefire leaves messages on my talk page, you tend to butt in, saying something Byzantinefire finds offensive, and then a fight breaks out. Byzantinefire, you tend to get angered easily at Ignis and other users for comments that were not meant to be hurtful in any way. This needs to stop, right now. I don't understand where this hostility is originating from, but enough is enough.--NinjaSheik 21:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't psychoanalyze anything or anyone. :/ He put it out there. I just corrected him and explained it a little bit. In fact, I'm even a little bit offended that you guys would outright delete all of it. It wasn't a fight, or even a confrontation, or even drama or anything. Making it go away or pretending doesn't help anyone, even if you overreact. :< --Ignis (talk) 06:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- Don't downplay what happened. Byzantinefire got offended by your "explanation" of "vulnerable narcissism", which you linked directly to him and even rehashed past incidents involving him, as if you were trying to diagnosis him. Call it whatever you will, that doesn't change the fact that you crossed a line and insulted Byzantinefire based off conjecture. He got offended and asked me to remove it, though since I was in college classes at the time, KrytenKoro had removed it and told all of you guys to stop. What happened above was, without a doubt, drama, which would have escalated further if Kryten didn't intervene. Ignis, you have already been warned once before for personally attacking another user, and what is occurred above could be seen as a personal attack against Byzantinefire. Again, I don't get where all this hostility is coming from, but seeing as you two are constantly butting heads with one another, I suggest you two try to work together at the Heartless Manufactory in order to make amends.--NinjaSheik 23:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe I'll just avoid discussion pages altogether. I've made it clear top to bottom that I wasn't being facetious - that it wasn't any kind of accusation (again, THAT word or train of thought is fucking offensive in this context, not just to me, but hundreds of millions of people who live with the stigma), that it was a correction and explanation (again, HE brought up the subject), but I can't even talk simple science without pissing someone off. What's next, hm? Is 2+2=4 gonna piss someone else off next? I didn't downplay anything. YOU did by treating it as an accusation and diagnosis. And that? THAT pisses me off. That offends me. And, by the way, congratulations. You must made this into drama. I would've let it be right before you jumped in and made it worse just now. And what's worse...I really liked you before this. >_> So with that, I'll take your advice and go to the Heartless Manufactory. But past that, I'm done with user discussions. Rex jumps in and turns everything into an ordeal, and for some reason always has a pointless bone to pick with me... Byzantine acts really obnoxiously sometimes, then gets offended when someone offers a scientific explanation for something. And you...really suck at mediating it all. Not much incentive for me for social interaction beyond the usual wiki business. =_= --Ignis (talk) 01:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- Don't downplay what happened. Byzantinefire got offended by your "explanation" of "vulnerable narcissism", which you linked directly to him and even rehashed past incidents involving him, as if you were trying to diagnosis him. Call it whatever you will, that doesn't change the fact that you crossed a line and insulted Byzantinefire based off conjecture. He got offended and asked me to remove it, though since I was in college classes at the time, KrytenKoro had removed it and told all of you guys to stop. What happened above was, without a doubt, drama, which would have escalated further if Kryten didn't intervene. Ignis, you have already been warned once before for personally attacking another user, and what is occurred above could be seen as a personal attack against Byzantinefire. Again, I don't get where all this hostility is coming from, but seeing as you two are constantly butting heads with one another, I suggest you two try to work together at the Heartless Manufactory in order to make amends.--NinjaSheik 23:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't psychoanalyze anything or anyone. :/ He put it out there. I just corrected him and explained it a little bit. In fact, I'm even a little bit offended that you guys would outright delete all of it. It wasn't a fight, or even a confrontation, or even drama or anything. Making it go away or pretending doesn't help anyone, even if you overreact. :< --Ignis (talk) 06:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)