Talk:Oblivion

Yes, the untapped power that lies within you. Now, child, it's time you awakened that power and realized your full potential.
	This article needs more information! Improve it by adding what you know about the following issues. This article lacks: Acquisition and plot info for Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories

In CoM

In CoM, don't you get he Oblivion by just heading for the stairs for the 13th floor, and defeating Larxene gets you her card?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 14:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

That's exactly what the description of the text is saying, albeit in different words. You have to be on the 12th floor, you have to complete Destiny Islands, and upon completing Destiny Islands you get to the 12th Floor Exit Hall, where you defeat Larxene. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Well, what I mean is that defeating Larxene gets you the Larxene card, and you could immediately save the game and not have the Oblivion (if I remember correctly). It's not until you actually go up the stairs and have that little story sequence that you get Oblivion, right?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 20:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, with Naminé and a seemingly lifeless Repliku, but not up the stairs : it's at the 12th Floor Exit Hall, as far as I remember. Thing is, I did put the info about the Repliku cutscene up there a while ago. Someone erased the part of Repliku and that's how the info stayed. I thought I had done something wrong, so I just left it. But now that you remind me...... looks like I do know my work after all. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

KrytenKoro - "Space Corp Directive 195—In an emergency power situation, a hologrammatic crew member must lay down his life in order that the living crew members might survive."  "Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly: 'No chance, you metal bastard.'" TALK - This is one of Riku's weapons in 358 (per Deep Dive), so we need to mention that somewhere.

KrytenKoro - "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." TALK - Since the Oblivion is obtained story-wise in CoM, I want to add a story section, but I don't remember the circumstances. Could you fill it out, please, in the style of the other Keyblade pages?

Oblivion Dosnt Represent Xion for DW Roxas

i dont know why, but for some reason when people say the keyblade he got from xion, is the keyblade that turns into oblivion, it gets me really mad.

i mean what kind of conection dose Xion have with the oblivion keyblade? why do people automaticly assume that when roxas Dual Wields, the oblivion keyblade is the one he got from xion?

i mean, Roxas normal wields a single keyblade with his right hand, the hand that holds the obliivion keyblade when Dual wielding. so shouldent the Oathkeeper be the one that shows Roxas' conection to Xion?

i mean when roxas gets xions keyblade its obviously the one he holds in his left hand, wich is also the hand that holds Oathkeeper with he Dual wields.

ive even made a picture to compare keyblades:

Xion even wields the keyblade in her left hand in her offical art. even though she wields her weapon with her right hand in battle, i think SE had her keyblade in her left hand in her art work to represent the fact that Roxas' lefthanded keyblade, the oath keeper, came from her

Dont ask me why im making such a big deal out fo this, but i just cant help it. it just irks me when people think the oblivion keyblade represents xion when she has no conection to it at all

end rant~

i hope someone takes what ive said into consideration and fixes the "the oblivion keyblade represents xion" sentance in the description of the keyblade

@ _ @

~By Wiki User Ixbran

...for the extremely simple fact that he can wield the Oathkeeper on his own, but he can't use the Oblivion until Xion gives him her Keyblade.Glorious CHAOS! 03:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. His second keyblade isn't really Xion's, according to Nomura, but her death awaken this abality in him. The Oblivion keyblade however reprensent Xion, since one of the confirmed origins of the name "Xion" during the developpement was a flower (Shion) meaning "I won't forget you" (as said on the Xion Page).

Lol, that's Xion's artwork, you dip. She never fights left-handed in the actual game. Artwork ≠ Evidence. And of course Roxas' Oblivion equals Xion. Roxas' Oathkeeper and Oblivion ≠ Sora's Oathkeeper and Oblivion. Did you even play the game? The second Riku catches the Oblivion after Roxas throws it to him, Riku's mind is flooded with his memories of Xion. And then later when Riku is talking about Xion to Roxas, he lifts up the Oblivion Keyblade in his hand and stares at it. And just as it was stated before me, Roxas can use Oathkeeper any time with the Zero Gear, but after absorbing Xion and having his Synch Blade ability awoken, he gains Oblivion.

Crammed

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 22:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Is it just me, or does this page look a bit messy and crammed with all of the extra templates? This should be cleaned up.

Japanese Symbol for DARK?

Vehicroidsrage - "Have you been a good boy?" TALK - Oh, sounds like you haven't! Is the end of the Oblivion is the symbol of Dark in Japanaese?

Er, did you bother reading the article first?—Urutapu 18:16, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Shaft or Blade?

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? I was under the premise that that part of the Keyblade is the shaft.

SwordGlorious CHAOS! 14:15, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? But Oblivion is a Keyblade, not a sword.

xion and the oblivion

i think the oblivion resembles xion the oblivion is black like her hair and the nobody coat the blue gem resembles her eyes the crown resembles her being kinda like a princess of a heart because she resembles kairi

recoded names

what do the names signify when Oblivion levels up. TheFifteenthMember 20:30, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Well my fan theory on that is seeing as how the Keyblade's Japanese name is Passing Memories, their names are base on the memories of people significant to Sora. Wind = Ventus, Earth = Terra, Sea = Kairi, Sky = Sora, himself. But that's just my fan theory on it. Bloody on what Nomura is thinking. *shrugs* UnknownCheisā ^{—— Is the fish dead?} 21:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

The thing is Oblivion is Sora's memory of Riku and nothing there represents him. Maybe just normal level 1 'Oblivion' is there to signify Riku. TheFifteenthMember 09:50, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Youmay

I feel that the suite should encapsulate the material of the selected page, with any "you may have been looking for another page" templates coming before that. I don't have strong feelings on this, though, I mostly just want to raise it as a point for discussion."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

The Suite template is meant to go at the top; it's an eyesore otherwise. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 02:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

How so? And couldn't the same be said for the disambig templates?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:25, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

I thought the whole point of the Suite template was that it goes at the top for the sake of navigation? It acts as a sort of "info hub," containing everything relevant to the subject within it. That includes any maintenance templates and such relevant to the subject in question. You're almost isolating the templates from the article by placing it above the Suite tabs. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 21:18, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

That's my intention, actually -- the disambig templates aren't really part of the article's topic, and are in fact drawing away from it -- meanwhile, the suite templates are about the article's topic, and allow us to turn to different "pages" within the article. I picture it kind of like a filing folder -- you might have a post-it note on the front of it saying that there's another folder you might have meant to grab, but within the folder you will find multiple documents all on one subject. For comparison, the various parts of the Sora's Heartless suite do not each have a disambig template, with only the main article having one right now. Conceptually, I feel it would make more sense to treat those as "subpages" of the main article, and thus have the disambig "outside" of them."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

From my perspective—I can see it the other way, too, don't get me wrong—the disambig template refers to the article, but the article doesn't start until after the suite-tabs.

Also, to respond to the filing cabinet metaphor, the main article is as if it's stapled to the front of the folder, so when you look up a term, it's what you see right away, and the post-it note is stuck to that. At no point do you see just the cover of the folder. (I'm not sure if that actually is a point in favor of having the Youmay below the suite-tabs, but it just struck me as a point for some reason. I'm tired.) --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 01:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

It ultimately doesn't matter to me what order we place templates on the article, as long as we are consistent with formatting across the entire Wiki. And as the Wiki's resident Wiki-fairy (or whatever it is), my artist's eye simply likes the look of the Suite template bing at the tippy-top best. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 03:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)