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The Foreteller Keyblades will use InfoKeyKHX, but I need to make a few changes to it first. The difference between the Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D is that they are two different Keyblades, while the Void Gear and Vanitas's Void Gear are the same. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC) | The Foreteller Keyblades will use InfoKeyKHX, but I need to make a few changes to it first. The difference between the Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D is that they are two different Keyblades, while the Void Gear and Vanitas's Void Gear are the same. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
:I'm not at all opposed to having more than one image in the infobox; it's more the issue of showing incomplete versions in the infobox. I don't want to eventually have the infobox include the incomplete Graveyard Sleeping Lion, the incomplete KHX Lady Luck, or Data-Sora's shattered Data-Keyblade, that kind of thing. | :I'm not at all opposed to having more than one image in the infobox; it's more the issue of showing incomplete versions in the infobox. I don't want to eventually have the infobox include the incomplete Graveyard Sleeping Lion, the Soul Eater (on WttD), the incomplete KHX Lady Luck, or Data-Sora's shattered Data-Keyblade, that kind of thing. Clearly we have precedent to allow TVA-style Keychain variants, so I'd be happy enough incorporating the Foretellers into that. For Vanitas...erg. It would make sense to incorporate his version, Foreteller-style, but having a TVA tab and a Vanitas tab just feels inelegant to me, and it would beg us to also include stuff like: | ||
*Kingdom Key D (KH1 Mickey, KHCoM Mickey, KH3D Mickey) | |||
*Kingdom Key (KH1 Riku and Anti-Sora, KHCoM Zexion) | |||
*Destiny's Embrace (KH2 Riku and Kairi) | |||
*Earthshaker (KHBbS Mimic Master) | |||
*Ends of the Earth (KH2 Lingering Will) | |||
*Rainfell (KHBbS Mimic Master) | |||
*Stormfall (KH2 Aqua) | |||
*Wayward Wind (KHBbS Mimic Master) | |||
*Oblivion (KHD Riku and Anti-Riku) | |||
*Star Seeker (KHRec Mickey, KHBbS Mickey, KHX Mickey) | |||
*MX Keyblade (KHBbS No Heart and Terra-Xehanort) | |||
*Master's Defender (KHBbS Armor of Eraqus and Master Eraqus) | |||
*Starlight (KHX Ephemera) | |||
:We keep Vanitas's Void Gear in the gallery and we avoid ''all'' that. | |||
:I'm not strongly opposed to including the concept art, it just feels weird. I'd be happiest if the infobox simply didn't have an image until we had a render, but I have no desire to push that issue. | :I'm not strongly opposed to including the concept art, it just feels weird. I'd be happiest if the infobox simply didn't have an image until we had a render, but I have no desire to push that issue. | ||
:For Void Gear, the issue is that the sole time the Keychain's been identified by Nomura, he treated it as identical to the keychains the protagonists receive. Honestly, given the theme naming (which is shared with No Name and the whole No Heart thing), there's not much reason to assume that the "true name" of Vanitas's version ''is'' different. Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D, on the other hand, have different pages not because of their graphical difference (after all, the KHBbS and KHX keychains all have graphical differences), but because the fiction explicitly identifies them as unique Keychains, names and all. If Nomura ever changes that, or even just says something like "they didn't receive Vanitas's keychain, they received one mimicking the Remnant's attempted mimicry", that would be enough to split, but until then, there's not really a good argument for it that wouldn't demand splitting all of Terra/Ventus/Aqua's variants or the KHX Keyblade enhancements.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC) | :For Void Gear, the issue is that the sole time the Keychain's been identified by Nomura, he treated it as identical to the keychains the protagonists receive. Honestly, given the theme naming (which is shared with No Name and the whole No Heart thing), there's not much reason to assume that the "true name" of Vanitas's version ''is'' different. Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D, on the other hand, have different pages not because of their graphical difference (after all, the KHBbS and KHX keychains all have graphical differences), but because the fiction explicitly identifies them as unique Keychains, names and all. If Nomura ever changes that, or even just says something like "they didn't receive Vanitas's keychain, they received one mimicking the Remnant's attempted mimicry", that would be enough to split, but until then, there's not really a good argument for it that wouldn't demand splitting all of Terra/Ventus/Aqua's variants or the KHX Keyblade enhancements.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC) | ||