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::Okay, but where are you getting that he's "supposed to react after three finishers"? I can rip LW apart quickly and without taking damage simply by using Comet and a few Ethers, and I can exploit Berserk Charge to make a joke of most of the Mushroom XIII -- but these are strategies the Ultimania even points out as recommended. This kind of AI exploitation is also common in similar games like DMC, with cancelling, and is even on record as a purposefully included mechanic that is simply not explained or mentioned within the game. Beyond it being too easy, what makes it seem to be a glitch to you? Does the game freeze, or produce any visual clashes? For comparison, we cover [[Vanitas Remnant|tricking the AI by hiding behind a rock]], as well.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC) | ::Okay, but where are you getting that he's "supposed to react after three finishers"? I can rip LW apart quickly and without taking damage simply by using Comet and a few Ethers, and I can exploit Berserk Charge to make a joke of most of the Mushroom XIII -- but these are strategies the Ultimania even points out as recommended. This kind of AI exploitation is also common in similar games like DMC, with cancelling, and is even on record as a purposefully included mechanic that is simply not explained or mentioned within the game. Beyond it being too easy, what makes it seem to be a glitch to you? Does the game freeze, or produce any visual clashes? For comparison, we cover [[Vanitas Remnant|tricking the AI by hiding behind a rock]], as well.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::I personally feel that yes, it is a glitch, since it probably shouldn't be that easy. However, that doesn't make it an illegitimate strategy. Like Kryten just pointed out, there's a glitch in the AI of the Vanitas Remnant that allows you to trick it; that doesn't make it an illegitimate strategy. We should definitely cover this strategy if one can repeat it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 01:07, 25 February 2015 (UTC) | :::I personally feel that yes, it is a glitch, since it probably shouldn't be that easy. However, that doesn't make it an illegitimate strategy. Like Kryten just pointed out, there's a glitch in the AI of the Vanitas Remnant that allows you to trick it; that doesn't make it an illegitimate strategy. We should definitely cover this strategy if one can repeat it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 01:07, 25 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
::LW reacts after 25 "revenge value" (which ''is'' part of the game's coding, though I'm not entirely sure how to explain it concisely since it's never been officially acknowledged IIRC), not necessarily "three finishers" (although the more common strats against him ''do'' bring him above that threshold, hence the common misconception). I want to say the Fenrir+Negative Combo exploit is based on that, but I'm not entirely sure. [[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]] ''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]'' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 01:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC) | |||