Talk:Neku Sakuraba

Death

UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 11:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC) That's odd. Death does not exist? But Barbossa, Hades and even Master Xehanort mention that word or something similar. EDIT: Well, if there is no such thing as death, that will mean that dead characters might come back, right? I hope so for Barbossa, but we should talk about this on a forum. The mainpage page is about Neku, y'know.

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - 11:28, 15 September 2011 (UTC) I think it was once mentioned in one of the Ansem Reports or Secret Ansem Reports that when you separate body and soul then there's "death". Still, death in the sense we westerners think of it doesn't exist, as the heart and/or mind somehow remains and only gets to "sleep" and as long as this heart/mind is still connected to a living one => like TAV, Ansem the Wise etc. they can be "born anew from sleep" like said in Blank Points.

That'll support characters like ASOD and Xemnas, but not Barbossa or Clayton who literally die, for example. Major plot hole again, Nomura. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 11:31, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

UxieLover1994 Nya? — 11:34, 15 September 2011 (UTC) There has to be some sort of afterlife. Even something similar to Aslan's Country in the Narnia series is good enough for me, y'know. Good characters (eg: Terra, Ventus) go there; evil characters (eg: Ursula, Scar, Lady Tremaine and her daughters) go to a place similar to Hell.

17master— "Hi, I'm the world famous talking Emerald Box!" And I like to eat HUMAN cupcakes. I think Barbossa said "undead", Hades is the "Lord of the Dead" and brings back Auron from the dead (yes, he used that term), as for Master Xehanort he said "'χ'... A most ancient letter. Some say 'kye,' but the meaning is the same. Death... A letter that spells endings." Well okay death does exist in the game but in the universe it's not. Besides, in TWEWY Neku and the other participants are already dead and only their existence are left, and thus making the Game the only way to get back into the world of living. Otherwise their existence will be erased and they, well, ceased to exist. EDIT: Ventus and Terra are NOT dead. And as for Ursula etc. I think they died, yes, but in their own universe, Disney universe, not Kingdom Hearts'.

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - 11:39, 15 September 2011 (UTC) Pretty much seen with Auron, yup. Although I would it rather interpret as such that guys like Barbossa or Clayton just aren't deeply enough connected to a still living heart. Also, Maleficent also made a rather quirky comeback, lol. People like Terra and Ventus are rumored to return fully though, also they didn't really die per se. However, going out from Blank Points where all those saying Sora's name and maybe even a possible return of Xemnas and Ansem SoD, who knows what'll happen?

Look back at the journals: they always consider a change of circumstances for the people with the strongest hearts. So something uncanny is bound to happen to the main characters because of their extraordinary strength of heart. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 11:51, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - 11:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC) Makes the whole thing even more intriguing...seems really like Nomura didn't invent all those original characters just to let them disappear, there will be more to it...especially with the main focus of DDD apparently on that data of Ansem the Wise.

KrytenKoro - "Space Corp Directive 195—In an emergency power situation, a hologrammatic crew member must lay down his life in order that the living crew members might survive."  "Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly: 'No chance, you metal bastard.'" TALK - We really need to find the source for this whole "no death" thing, especially with the term being used within the scripts themselves.

I'm almost certain that it can be found within Director's Secret Report XIII. Which of course, leads to another direct contradiction between DSRXIII and Barbossa's, Clayton's and Xehanort's words. This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 15:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - 15:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC) I found the main Nomura-interview in the BBS-Ultimania where he spoke of that, however, of course I can't guarantee for translation Errors: -- Ansem the Wise says to Aqua “Everything is born from sleep.” What does this mean? Nomura : In that scene the ones who are calling for “Sora” are the ones who have already disappeared from the world. But in the world of KH there is no concept of death, that for example they are just sleeping within Sora’s heart. If you can just wake them up, they’ll be able to return to the world, they would be “born from sleep”. That there would be a possibility of this, is what Ansem the Wise is saying. Even Aqua, who isn’t in the realm of light, would be born from sleep. -- In that case, do the characters we see in that scene have a chance of returning? Nomura : Yes. The data that Ansem has hidden within Sora is the secret to that revival. When Ansem had become DiZ, and studied the heart and emotions, the results he found he hid within Sora. There are a lot of people who thought that Coded was about finding those results, but that’s not true. The ending of Coded was about finding out that DiZ had done something to Sora, as Namine said, finding out about the data that Ansem hid. What that data is will be revealed in the next game. Two more games aside from KHIII are in the works. --- The second part is of curious interest because DDD is said to be mainly about Ansem's data, which was already more or less stated by Nomura back when the BBS Ultimania came out. I got it from the interview archive at http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/159545-nomura-interviews-archive.html

Pre-release

Are we quite absolutely certain that this article should be up already? Don't we all remember the mess with Eraqus and the others before BbS was released?

I don't think we should be posting any articles on new characters until they are given a commitment to being in the release, like being in the Famitsu issues. That was our standard last time -- getting special coverage in the magazines counted as commitment, appearing in a trailer or demo did not. I'm really, really uncomfortable with us setting up whole pages for cameo characters the second we get a whiff of them, and I had thought we had all learned from that last time."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:31, 15 September 2011 (UTC)