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I am shaking and so stressed I have not felt this bad in a long time.I feel like dirt.I was humilated.--[[User:The Dark Master|The Dark Master]] 04:26, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
I am shaking and so stressed I have not felt this bad in a long time.I feel like dirt.I was humilated.--[[User:The Dark Master|The Dark Master]] 04:26, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
:::::<!--hemad--> maggosh: Oh, I just meant that we would have more problems on the IRC. But that's rather irrelevant, since this IRC shall soon have its conditions altered once the new one is created. I'll start a new topic for my proposal. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 04:32, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
:::::<!--hemad--> maggosh: Oh, I just meant that we would have more problems on the IRC. But that's rather irrelevant, since this IRC shall soon have its conditions altered once the new one is created. I'll start a new topic for my proposal. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 04:32, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
== Proposal for managing the new IRC Channel ==
{{DTN|time=04:43, January 16, 2011 (UTC)|text=Okay, I've been handling the work regarding the new IRC Channel for the off-Wikia wiki, which looks like it will be for SEIWA. I've acquired several new channels to my account, to be safeguarded in case we decide to use them. However, my plan also concerns this wiki's IRC, possibly its continued existence.
#Create #SEIWA-KHWiki for the new wiki. Kryten and I attempted to create #KHWiki, but that gets into some forms we have to fill out with freenode to claim ownership. If we decide on this, Kryten or I can handle the forms--they prefer for it to be filled out by an administrator of the party wishing to claim the channel.
#''Consider'' forming ##khchat. Freenode has a few namespaces, just like wikis do. However, freenode just has two namespaces of channels: #channelspace and ##channelspace. Channels with just one hash are for official parties and businesses, whereas double-hash channels are for unofficial, lax, and relatively lesser groups. I have looked into the current state of #wikia-kingdomhearts and the way our neighbor wiki handles IRC channels, and have come to the conclusion we could benefit from:
##Forming two IRC channels--one is wiki-based, the other is social-based, but neither are ''totally'' restricted.
##Removing #wikia-kingdomhearts and instead using ##khchat for both wikis' social needs. #wikia-kingdomhearts currently is doing NOTHING GOOD to represent a professional wiki that is supposed to be an example of good work--however, that is not what the Wikia wiki will be in two weeks. So this could be blown off and ##khchat can just be forgotten. However, I do like the idea of ridding the channel, since this wiki has shown ''many'' instances of bad IRC issues and problems--just check the forums and IRC page's number of OP's. Perhaps it would be better to retain that level of social activity, but move it somewhere where it cannot badly reflect a wiki.
So leave opinions below. Personally, I'm all for using #SEIWA-KHWiki. As for this wiki's IRC, either way is fine. I'm not so much for ##khchat possibly merging the social and professional wikis on a high level, though our communities will possibly stay conjoined.}}

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Rules rewrite proposal

Please take a look at this. I believe it is easier to read and more concise than the current rules section. I would appreciate your comments or edits. Thanks!Glorious CHAOS! 02:45, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Problem

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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

I think there might be something wrong with the IRC. Everytime I go to the link, it's just a blank page! I don't know if everyone is having this problem, or if it's just me, but I'd really like to get back on! Could someone help me fix it?


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Xabryn - Golden Star Charm.pngI don't care if you're real!You're not better!
TALK - Mobile rikurep.pngIt's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}}
Heartless Emblem.pngit's not just with you the same thing is happening to me


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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

Well at least we know we're not the only ones. I hope it can be fixed soon...


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OPXion4EverIcon.png This is just a five min. log in, but I digress. I used to have the same problem with the IRC. Whenever you log into the IRC and join the KH Wiki channel if the page is still blank do this:

Look at the top of the screen (near the url "address" bar), to the right of that bar you will see the refresh button and the stop button. Check that area again, this time there might be an image of a piece of paper cut in half (that is the compatability button. Its purpose is for to help websites designed for older browsers will often look better, problems such as out-of-place menus, images, or text will be corrected). Click on that button and refresh the page; you should be able to log in again. Once I clicked on that button, I was able to log into the IRC channel.

If this doesn't work, then don't log into the IRC channel for a few days. After a day or so has passed, attempt to log back in. Finally, if that doesn't work, I can check to see if you were banned (which I seriously doubt).

Xion4ever Never forget... — 15:49, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

Xion, you're a genius, thank you!!!


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Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 19:35, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png It won't work with me =( The page refuses to load on Google Chrome, and on Internet Explorer, it won't let me send any messages... I'll try restarting my computer...

EDIT: 19:43, February 12, 2010 (UTC) Okay, It's working on Internet Explorer now, but not on Chrome.

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OPXion4EverIcon.png @ Nitrous: Your too kind. Did that fix your IRC problem?

@Dan: Try one/both of the ideas in my previous message. If they don't work, message me on my talkpage and I'll see whats up.

Xion4ever All the world's a joke! — 01:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry ^_^

I beg your pardon for the last comment I left... I meant "He may have left the wiki, but he's still an op" Sorry about that ^_^ Dan - IS KING OF THE PLATYPI!!! 21:52, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Problem

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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png Recently, dated March 27, videos were linked to the mainspace entitled "Goosh Goosh". To those who have not seen it... it is basically hentei (anime porn) censored enough to be on youtube... bloody hentei. There was a large argument about the matter. Basically, it all boiled down to "This kind of thing should not be allowed". Because there is no rule concerning the matter, I would like to ask the admins (or ops) to add this rule, for the following reason:

Although the Freenode Rules do not allow children under 13 years of age, there are still, nonetheless, children on the IRC, and what is basically porn should not be allowed to be posted on the mainspace. Although one of the videos did have an "over 18" tag on it, the other did not, and even so, some youtubers fake their age to be able to see vids with the tag, and some users do that, and are able to see it. Several Users complained on the matter.

This should not be allowed

Either we have a video ban policy, or a policy specifically banning videos like that. Honestly, why was this never brought up before?

If one would like a copy of the conversation, I can post it, as I have saved the "discussion" for future viewing.

i have been reading it and i think we need a rule.ZACH 05:01, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png Here is the conversation, for reference:
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FA icon.png Kingdom Hearts is G-rated ; videos should be G-rated, or at the most, PG-13. I wouldn't even bloody dare to put on Mylene Farmer's Je te rends ton amour for obvious reasons.

Unless, of course, I'm in a separate channel and I know for a fact that the people whom I'm speaking to are above 18 years of age (Blue and BebopKate, for example).

EDIT 03:34, March 29, 2010 (UTC) : Forgot to add on something : Freenode's rules are Freenode's rules, but remember that on KHW's IRC channel, we're using the rules from KHW, and thus, kids are entitled to get onto the IRC. Many people would want to discuss KH or things which have about the same feel, and please, no suggestive themes, particularly if you're on the main channel or speaking to kids. Be family-friendly. Though you might also want to see my statement on the separate channel above.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:58, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:59, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that it's well-known to most everyone, including the people involved in the chat, that anything posted should be PG rated at most; honestly, given my experience, PG-13 covers some pretty broad ground, including some stuff I would definitely not feel comfortable showing to kids.

I hesitate to ban video links exclusively because most people manage to post videos well within standards. I don't think users who follow the rules should be punished because a couple of others used poor judgment.

For any ops or others who were there, were any actions taken against the users other than booting them?

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons. — 04:08, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png I do believe the video was posted by an op. As for the other op on the channel, I don't believe they took any action at all.
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FA icon.png From the discussion, it seems that the op was involved, though I'm not sure (I'm not going to be on the IRC till after May 13th).

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 04:22, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons. — 04:27, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png He was alerted, but I'm not sure if he did anything about the situation. I don't quite remember the conversation. There was a lot of things being said in succession.
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FA icon.png LA linked to it, didn't he ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 04:36, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000.

You're all morons. — 04:37, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Talk_Bubble_Legend_zpsa9c4698c.png I am too lazy to read through it again. ._.
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FA icon.png Bah, I understand.

The discussion's now made public ; to all who have yet to comment, please take a good look at it first.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne — 04:41, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png I must say, I agree with what's been going on here. Video and picture links should be PG at most, there are all ages on the IRC. To clarify, there was an op there, and he posted the non-blocked video, meanwhile, another user (who admitted to being 14) posted the video blocked for viewers under 18. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking to punish the op, we just need an actual rule enforced, not just common sense.
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png Okay... BebopKate posted the rule, but DTN took it down. Um, Why? Seriously, it's a needed rule and it was clear and well written. What's the big idea?
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 19:29, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
He didn't take it down, he moved it to the end of the list.
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Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 19:33, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png Edit conflict: DTN didn't take it down, he just moved it to the end of the list. ^_^

Anyway, I agree, we do need this rule, and it needs to be implemented as soon as possible.

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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
Vsymbol.png Oh, I guess I didn't see that. It's done then! ^_^
Symbol - Magic Hat.png
FA icon.png About time.

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne — 23:54, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

where do i go to chat about non kingdom hearts related things

--Keyhole15 00:36, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

The IRC channel, of course. Wasn't that obvious?--NinjaSheik 00:37, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, on the IRC, it's not like we talk about Kingdom Hearts all the time. We have topics from Lady Gaga to Pokemon there. :P --VenCharm.pngLegoAlchemistVenCharm.png 02:33, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
GAGA RO MA MA. Yes, this is true. Chat is not limited to Kingdom Hearts. --DTN Room Core.png 22:21, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Failed Commands?

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 21:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png Is it possible that some of the commands listed in the "common commands" section don't work? I specifcially refer to the ignore command, the only one I've tried only to fail. Perhaps it's just the way I write it, which is "/ignore ________"
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 21:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png The ignore command can only ban a nick. Assuming that I know who you are trying to ignore, you will need to ban all variations of their nick as well. However, I completely am against using the ignore command, since it cuts off conections to other users who may need help, especially from a staffer.

Uh....

Okay. The IRC is saying that access is blocked, is anyone else having this difficulty? It just says: CGI:IRC access it currently blocked. Please try again later or use http://webchat.freenode.net/

hate

I hate the people on the irc.They mock me,look down on me,they will all pay.--The Dark Master 03:55, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, look, nobody was doing anything like that. As it looks like to me, you were being disruptive, you failed to heed to the warnings, and you got a ban. Look, it isn't the end of the world. It's just a chatroom. I know you're upset about your ban, but it will pass. I know how you feel. You're humiliated. I'm sorry about what happened to you. Let this be a lesson, okay? And don't hate the people on the IRC, because they certainly don't hate you. You seem like a good guy, Dark Master. Don't put this against us, because we won't put it against you.
I'll see you when your ban is over. Cheers~ --VenCharm.pngLegoAlchemistVenCharm.png 04:18, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
I cannot shake the feeling that I somehow knew this was going to happen... This actually brings up a rather interesting topic: what should we do about bans on the new IRC off-Wikia? Retain all current bans, or wipe everyone clean? --DTN Room Core.png 04:22, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
You knew someone would overreact to a one-week ban? No, you didn't. You're garnering Coor votes. :P I think we should give everyone a clean slate on the new Wiki channel. maggosh 04:28, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
I believe that the community is going to remain rather the same on the new IRC. So probably keep them banned. However, if we keep them on a shorter leash, it might be fair to give the users who were previously banned a second chance. --VenCharm.pngLegoAlchemistVenCharm.png 04:29, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

I am shaking and so stressed I have not felt this bad in a long time.I feel like dirt.I was humilated.--The Dark Master 04:26, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

maggosh: Oh, I just meant that we would have more problems on the IRC. But that's rather irrelevant, since this IRC shall soon have its conditions altered once the new one is created. I'll start a new topic for my proposal. --DTN Room Core.png 04:32, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Proposal for managing the new IRC Channel

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 04:43, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Okay, I've been handling the work regarding the new IRC Channel for the off-Wikia wiki, which looks like it will be for SEIWA. I've acquired several new channels to my account, to be safeguarded in case we decide to use them. However, my plan also concerns this wiki's IRC, possibly its continued existence.
  1. Create #SEIWA-KHWiki for the new wiki. Kryten and I attempted to create #KHWiki, but that gets into some forms we have to fill out with freenode to claim ownership. If we decide on this, Kryten or I can handle the forms--they prefer for it to be filled out by an administrator of the party wishing to claim the channel.
  2. Consider forming ##khchat. Freenode has a few namespaces, just like wikis do. However, freenode just has two namespaces of channels: #channelspace and ##channelspace. Channels with just one hash are for official parties and businesses, whereas double-hash channels are for unofficial, lax, and relatively lesser groups. I have looked into the current state of #wikia-kingdomhearts and the way our neighbor wiki handles IRC channels, and have come to the conclusion we could benefit from:
    1. Forming two IRC channels--one is wiki-based, the other is social-based, but neither are totally restricted.
    2. Removing #wikia-kingdomhearts and instead using ##khchat for both wikis' social needs. #wikia-kingdomhearts currently is doing NOTHING GOOD to represent a professional wiki that is supposed to be an example of good work--however, that is not what the Wikia wiki will be in two weeks. So this could be blown off and ##khchat can just be forgotten. However, I do like the idea of ridding the channel, since this wiki has shown many instances of bad IRC issues and problems--just check the forums and IRC page's number of OP's. Perhaps it would be better to retain that level of social activity, but move it somewhere where it cannot badly reflect a wiki.

So leave opinions below. Personally, I'm all for using #SEIWA-KHWiki. As for this wiki's IRC, either way is fine. I'm not so much for ##khchat possibly merging the social and professional wikis on a high level, though our communities will possibly stay conjoined.