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sorry to bother who ever is reading this but I think it would be a great idea to add all the attack and actions anti form can do on this page, perhaps under a new section called "attaks"
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PS I also think it may be a good idea to combine this page with the anti sora and shadow sora page (which are the same page anyway) perhaps under a section called "other apperances". And it could start out like "although not comfermed there is a heartless in kh that has a striking resemblance to anti form, a miner defference is that its fighting style mirrors sora's so it also holds a dark kingdom key, it is summoned by riku". although you guys can make it sound a little more professional.
 
 
== Sora a Heartless? ==
This form opens up the question of whether or not Sora is part or full [[Heartless]]. it is pheasably possible because Xehanort's Heartless was, of course, a Heartless, but he retained a unique physical form rather than becoming one of the other forms of Heartless, however Sora seemed to regain his heart in Hollow Bastion due to Kairi's ability to bring him back, and the fact that if someone does not resign to darkness, they cannot become a Heartless. What do you think? - Tr1ckydr1v3r, 14/01/07, 18:11
*Well, Xehanort's Heartless didn't completely retain its form.  His clothes changed pretty dramatically, and his face and hair were slightly different.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 20:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
::If by "Sora", do you mean Sora, or his Anti-Form?  Because I don't think there can be such thing as a part-Heartless, it's a pretty black and white process, by most counts. The Patron Saint of Lost Causes 19:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 
Well, unlike Xehanort, Sora regained his heart in addition to being the Keybearer. Plus, the existence of Anti-form would imply that he's a partial Heartless.
 
I've always theorized that Sora's brief time as a Heartless has granted him the ability to temporarily channel the powers of a Heartless; however, it's something he has no control over and doesn't choose to do (unlike, say, [[Riku]]). [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 18:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 
That's also a plausible explanation~Megazilla.
 
==Name==
'''Anti-Form''', Anti Form, or AntiForm?--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
:WHat does the game call it? [[User:Bluerfn|[^_]][[User talk:Bluerfn|^]/]]
::Anti Form.--[[User:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
:::Go with the game's way then if the spelling is that way. [[User:Bluerfn|[^_]][[User talk:Bluerfn|^]/]]
 
When using the Two Across Keyblade and its ability, if your chance of going Antiform reaches 100%, does this mean you can never get Final Form?
:Your chance of Final Form increases each time, not your antiform's chances. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 23:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 
I have a file for all my hacks, and in my drive menu it reads "Antiform"
 
Also, i think the cause for antiform is that when Sora gets his new cloths, Maleficent somehow cursed his clothes, or one of, or all of the good fairys were thinking about Maleficent, or were slightly scening her presence.
 
While AntiSora is parsed without a space, all the other forms in the game are, and the guide calls it "Anti Form". I think we should go with the official guide over hacked data.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:What about the ending ? The ending calls it Anti Form too, right ?
 
:About the hack, it's true. I just saw it. But since it doesn't appear normally in the menu, we go with what the ending calls it. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 02:22, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
Ending of the game (Battle Report) calls it AntiForm. Not sure if anyone cares about the name change anymore, but it's worth mentioning. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span><span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span><span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 02:37, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
The name anti means: against on something--[[User:Logginglocos75|Jose Enrique Felix]] 00:25, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Uh.. ==
 
Does Anti have a mind of it's own?
 
[[User:GohanRULEZ|gohanRULEZ]] 08:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 
{{TNE|text=I presume, yes. Because if Nomura says it's the "closest" Sora can ever get to becoming a Heartless once more, then Sora here isn't entirely a Heartless, he just looks and feels like one - he is able to control himself (or, we are able to control him).}}
 
{{Gohantalk|time=I...will never be a memory|text=So,it kinda like Hollow Ichigo?}}
 
{{TNE|text=Pretty much yeah.}}
 
== Image ==
{{Xiggie|text=Since we're using the edited-artwork images for the other forms, why don't we use one for AntiForm as well ?
 
here is the image:}}
[[File:Kingdom Hearts 2 Anti Form by MaGr.jpg|250px]]
 
{{Guardian Soul|text=We should be using the official images.}}
 
{{Xiggie|text=I agree. I was just thinking this because we're using these edited artwork images on the other forms.}}
 
== Somethings been bugging me ==
 
When you get Final Form,do you lose the ability to turn into Anti?
 
gohanRULEZ 21:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 
No,the chances are decreased though (while turning into Valor, Wisdom, Master). --[[User:Xion4ever|Xion4ever]] 22:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 
Hey? How many drive bars does Sora's AntiForm have? I'm thinking that it was 5 or 6. Something long since picking up orbs lowers his AntiForm's drive. [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] 13:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== I can't do ground finisher ==
 
Whenever i turn into anti form, i want to see the ground finisher, but he always hits the enemy in the air. How can i land a ground finisher (not including the one where you press the square button while on the ground).
{{ghostboy3000|text= I don't think there is any attacks that are on the ground, Breaks the law of physisc ^_-}}
 
{{Xeyj|time=[[User:Xeyj|Xeyj]] 07:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=I love this form, but it sucks that you can't be it all the time. Hopefully in KH3 Anti is a drive form that you can choose.}}
{{TNE|time=13:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=There is a ground finisher when you press {{Button|x}} repeatedly, but you have to be '''in the air''' for the ground finisher. If you're on the ground, your finisher's going to be in the air.}}
 
==Huh?==
 
{{Cecil|text=Why is the ability to deal more damage to enemies a bad thing?}}
 
{{Xabryn|text=The form doesn't deal more damage it take more damage}}
 
also you cant use reaction commands which is annoying in boss fights
 
== Anti Helper ==
 
Has anyone had a time where Anti Form has helped them in a tight situation? I have one: in Xigbar's fight, we were both low on health, me and Xigbar. He then started his Desperation attack, which was impossible for me to dodge. When I attempted to drive, I got Anti Form. I then nearly cussed, but had an idea. I kept running around in a circle, and thanks to Anti Form's speed, I could dodge the bullets. Then I slashed, darked, and destroyed Xigbar. [[Special:Contributions/68.58.68.158|68.58.68.158]] 19:48, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
==Heartless Category==
{{Chitalian8|time=19:30, August 2, 2010 (UTC)|text= I don't think that Antiform needs to be in the Heartless category. If it was a Heartless, then a new Roxas would be made every time Sora became Antiform.}}
{{TNE|time=22:59, August 2, 2010 (UTC)|text=Seconded. It's the ''closest'' Sora can be to becoming a Heartless, but not a Heartless proper, right ?}}


== Tips ==
== Tips ==

Revision as of 08:02, 25 September 2011

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Tips

Combine these into a tips section, possibly farming out some details to "Mechanics" where appropriate.Glorious CHAOS! 23:58, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Pros

  • Great enhancements in speed.
  • Fast combos and high damage dealer, given sufficient time for combos.
  • Speed of attacks keep certain enemies from attacking back.
  • Is the best of any Form at automatically deflecting attacks (with the exception of Final and Limit Forms); a Berserker's whole multi-hit combo can be countered with no damage by using Anti Form's midair combo.
  • Can stay in the air for a noticeable amount of time.
  • Anti Glide is a helpful dodging ability, and it homes in on distant opponents.
  • Some of the combo finishers have remarkably good range.

Cons

  • Cannot be activated or deactivated at will.
  • When you change location, you automatically revert.
  • Completely drains the Drive Gauge.
  • Inability to heal in any way.
  • Long combos take time to deliver finishing blows.
  • Close-range attacks puts Sora in risky situations.
  • Not all attacks cause hit-stun(enemies will simply be standing and free to move as if they are not being attacked)
  • Both partners disappear while using this Drive Form.
  • Magic is disabled.
  • Defense is lowered, damage received is twice as great as normal.
  • Strength is lowered.
  • Reaction Commands can't be used.
  • Combo finishers do not finish bosses.
  • Press Square during ground combos. This will quickly move Sora around and keep the enemy from being able to retaliate many times. Plus, it keeps the combo going.
  • Anti Form is actually quite good for running and avoiding attacks, if Anti-Glide is not used. In general, Anti-Glide is a great way to dodge attacks, even Xaldin's lance slashes.
  • Using Dark Dance and Chaos Finale will allow Anti Form to move into attacks that stun enemies faster. Anti Form does not bounce off when attacking a Large Body head-on.
  • In early boss battles (such as Prison Keeper) where the boss flinches when it takes damage, Anti Form can prevent the boss from moving at all during a combo.
  • It is not a good idea to use Anti Form during later boss battles, as while it deals greater damage, it is more vulnerable to damage, and cannot heal itself in any manner.
  • While Midair Doom and Dark Finale deal Dark damage, they are also considered magical attacks and are ineffective against enemies invulnerable to magic, like the Sorcerer.
  • When Sora grabs onto a ledge in Anti Form, he will hang on by his foot instead of his hand.

If you enter Anti Form during a boss battle later in the game, try to use Anti Forms agility to avoid theit attacks for the majority of the form change. This is because a Anti Form can not use a healing move. If you enter it in a battle against a group of enemies, then use the combos repeatedly to both block the attacks and damage the enemies.

Valor Form

However, the player needs to be in a battle situation in order for the ability to work, like if the player becomes Valor Form when there are no enemies around, the player will become Valor Form instead of Anti or Final Form.

Can someone source this?Glorious CHAOS! 03:28, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

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