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| {{Uxie|time=23:26, September 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=Now that the English dub is in stores, I am asking: do they say that this trio has been killed?}} | | {{Uxie|time=23:26, September 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=Now that the English dub is in stores, I am asking: do they say that this trio has been killed?}} |
| | {{unbirthtalk|text=If I remember correctly, Aqua says they darkness '''overtook''' them. Kinda the same thing is written in the french subtitles. Since it's not clearly mentionned that they died, I still believe they were "team rocket-ed" somewhere else.}} |
Revision as of 15:15, 25 September 2010
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Seriously? All three die in what is a darkly humorous twist on the phrase "car bombing"? Confirmation on that?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...07:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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I...wait, what?
I don't remember that from the original Disney film... ;_;
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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I know, that was exactly my reaction! The article says that's what happens, but that just seems too dark for a Kingdom Hearts game too me, and there's no citation. I'm gonna have a hard time believing it unless there's a source.
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- I can assure you it happens. Watch here starting at 4:00. I don't remember Tremaine being such a bitch in the movie (go ahead and watch the video from the beginning to see that), but it all adds up to some good catharsis. The fairy godmother even gets a cutscene to explain how ridiculously dark the Tremaines are to contrast Cinderella's light.—Urutapu 09:34, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 10:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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Yeah. Tremaine was sort of a bitch in the film, but mainly the third one. She was actually almost deceptively nice in the first until the end, which the world's storyline is obviously based off of. Then again, they probably stole some of that evil from the third movie (she traps Cinderella in a dark and evil version of the pumpkin carriage, and also trips the Grand Duke to make him drop the slipper) and inserted it into KH. I honestly don't like Square killing a Disney Character (so how come it was okay for the villains who died on-screen? Probably because these particular characters didn't really die, per se), and the screams seem to fade out, referencing they run away...
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 11:22, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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They all had dark hearts, so it is likely they died being consumed by darkness during the explosion, while they were weakened by it. But this is the Japanese version that we are talking about. We will learn more when more info on the English verson's release date is near.
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Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.
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From what I see in the video, I'd say there were just kinda thrown away by the explosion.
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- Um, are we in denial of the subtitles here? "Crushed by darkness". ಠ_ಠ—Urutapu 18:42, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Wow, I could sort of believe it with Lady Tremaine, but Drizella and Anastasia were more like bitchy henchwomen than really evil (in the film at least), so that's why it surprised me. Thanks for answering that, Urutapu.
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 14:15, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
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Anastasia was only a selfish brat in the first film. Drizella remained evil in all three films. Besides, they had hearts full of darkness in the Japanese version, but who knows what might happen when the game is released in English. They should have been killed anyway.
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Lying Memories - Clever little sneak! TALK - Gee... I just don't know. — Lying Memories 06:54, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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Hey, Pete got banished to the realm of darkness because he was mad at the results of a popularity contest. Now we have three bitches getting killed because they couldn't control their level of bitchiness? Something's wrong here people. VERY VERY WRONG. I'm scared.
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KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK -
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It's a small world after all, IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL.
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The name is Sasori 17. Got it memorized?
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Okay well a lot of the time it just so happens the right way that some japanese words get mixed up. So in this case destruction could be downfall, or something less dark for a Disney game. Although they could have actually died. As did Marlins wife die in Finding Nemo. That was a little demented for a Disney thing too. Other than that I would just say that believe what you think it means. Follow that until you actually get the game.
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 13:34, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
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I guess you are right. But I still am upset for three bitchs to have been killed off like that! The only Disney villians to have died at the hands of Sora have been killed off in their movies (eg: Oogie Boogie was killed when Santa Claus squashed his "brain bug", Sark and the MCP were both deleted by Tron, Scar was eaten alive by Shenzi, Banzai, and Ed after Simba knocked him off a clif, Captain Barbossa was shot by Jack Sparrow, but later resuruted, Ursula was stabbed by Prince Eric after he tossed King Triton's triton into her abdorman, Jafar faded away after a dying Iago kicked his lamp into some lava in the second film, and Shan-Yu was blown up when Mushu sent some rockets towards him!)
It's not fare to have three women killed off when they all suvived their film events. If they did die, then Sora would never get a chance to meet (and possably fight) them if he visits their world. Please tell me that this is a Japanese-only murder case.
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Only time will tell. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they did change it in the American version, but you never know.
And I'm just as surprised as everyone else here. I mean, their only crime was being a bunch of jerks to someone who happened to be a Princess of Heart! That, in my opinion, doesn't really constitute having darkness in one's heart. Tamroc7 14:46, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
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KrytenKoro - Ṱ͐͒H̫̾̃E͈͔͍͔̾̋ͦ̕ ͇̜͖͉̘̬͙̃̇̊͜N͙͉̑̓̌ͤĬ̸͇̖͈͒̃G̮̠̟͖̝̩ͧ͊̈́H̽͌̀T͚̹̝̐ͬ̂̔̄ ̿̈́̊̃ͦ͆͑A̘̝̖ͪͯ́̀ͣ̿̃͝I̟͑ͬR̡͎̩̚ ̠̪̈́̑̏̏̋C̯̲ͩ́͐͒͂ͪ͜Ä͍̜̣̼̹́͌̋̀͒͂ͅN̅͐̆ͪ̓̋ͩ ̣ͮͧͧ͌Ả̼̤̜̫̩̜̾̕L͓͓̺̤̘̠̀W̷̭̯̼͗͂ͦ̾͒A̘͓̰̠͉͇̬Y̵̒ͧͩ̇ͅS ̦̻̯̟̮̭̟̓̒͑͋C̮̱͔͔̖̯ͦͧͨ͋̑A̤ͩ̉̅ͪR̞͉̣̦̪̜̮͛̉̎̀ͩ̍̇R̢̥̳̝̟̺̣̈Y͗͋̅͏͇̳̪͎̺ ̭͈͍̝̣͍̒̎̑͘O̖̗͇̲̲̖͊̈́̿ͨ͑ͅN̩̰͉͍͍͖͙E̩̹̣̰̣͓̖̽̊͡ ̲̮͔̯̦̋̿ͧͫ̓ͅM͇̌͌̔́O̱̫̯̬̤̗̲͛R̙̽Ȅ̥̦̫̺͙̩̒ͯͭ́ ̖̫̯͉̱ͣͯͩ͊͐͆ͫS̰̿̊̑̋ͩ̇ͅC̘̣̜͍̆̆ͧ͜R̞̾͐̋̆̚Ë̡͇̓A̙͈M̡̤̙̈ TALK -
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Language, guys, c'mon.
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 03:11, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
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They would have to change it for the English dub. These three bitchs did not die in their film, y'know. Anastasia became an ally for Cinderella later on. Why would they just add them, then kill them off unlike in the film!?
I just hope that the English version would just say that they were "blown out of their home, and then they ran off", rather than being "blown up and were burned to death" (or be, in Aqua's words, "crushed by darkness"). Maleficent had far more darkness in her heart, but she lived for ten whole years (until she was killed by Sora, but later revived by accident). It's kinda offencive towards women, y'know. (I think the voilence aganst women thing was the main reason why Marluxia was made into a male character)
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Umm... what? Offensive towards Disney fans in general, yes, but what about it is specifically offensive to women? You called them bitches just a paragraph earlier. Isn't that a tad offensive too? And Marluxia was made a male character because Nomura felt it would be sexist/offensive for both of the Org's traitors to be women. It had nothing to do with violence.
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 03:50, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
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Hello!? Evil! I only call evil women bitches. Besides, I did not know the word sexist, so that was why I used that word. I am sorry for insaulting them.
Besides, it's too groosom for three women to all be killed off at the same time, even if they were brats. (Sorry).
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Oh, believe me, I'm with you there. I don't like or understand why this little story change was made.
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What I don't understand is why they get killed and the Queen of Hearts, who is a despot who cuts peoples heads off for merely disagreeing with her, survives. I'm sure she'd have a LOT more darkness in her than a couple of brats who push around a girl. Tamroc7 01:06, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 08:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
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You're right. Many other had far more darkness than these three brats, but they suvived, while these three were killed. It's kinda unfare towards women, y'know!
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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That is a very big leap. If Square was trying to be unfair to women, this would happen way more frequently. It's just a dumb fluke from hat I can see. They were probably just being lazy and didn't want to think of some other reason for them to leave Cinderella alone. This reminds me of what happened to Clayton, but at least he actually died in Tarzan.
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Now that it's been dubbed in English...
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 23:26, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
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Now that the English dub is in stores, I am asking: do they say that this trio has been killed?
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Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.
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If I remember correctly, Aqua says they darkness overtook them. Kinda the same thing is written in the french subtitles. Since it's not clearly mentionned that they died, I still believe they were "team rocket-ed" somewhere else.
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