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{{DTN|time=02:57, February 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=And I go on to explain my interpretation of the Three Revert Rule. I suggest you read it, and my message that follows that about the nature of conflicts.}}
{{DTN|time=02:57, February 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=And I go on to explain my interpretation of the Three Revert Rule. I suggest you read it, and my message that follows that about the nature of conflicts.}}
== Game template ==
Hello. [[User:Xion4ever|Xion4ever]] said that you were the one who started the [[Template:Game|Game template]]. I just wanted to know if I could edit it, so that when you hover the cursor over the icon, it displays the name of the game. So, could I? --[[User:Random Ranaun|Random Ranaun]] 01:19, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 01:19, 15 March 2010

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along!

Keyblade-Blk.png Hello, welcome to my talk page. Feel free to leave a message here if you have any Wiki-related issue.

While on my talk page, I'd like you to please try your best to follow the following rules:

  1. This page shall not be treated as or become a chat room. if you would like to chat with me or any other User about matters not realted to the Wiki, please meet me at our IRC Channel.
  2. I happen to like proper grammar and the time stamps in talk templates (~~~~~), so please use them on my talk page.

あけましておめでとうございます!

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SUPER SWORD-CHUCKS TALK HERE.OK, I DOUBT THAT BUT WHATEVER.

11liu53.png YEAH, MY ORDERS ARE THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, AND WHO CARES ABOUT THEM. — 09:30, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

11liu53.png Heh, I wonder what the topic title means. Anyways, just letting you know that:
  • I'm done looking for all 99 puppies. It turns out some were in new and different locations from the original KH, so I really couldn't depend on our page or the FAQ I used (since some of the locations of the puppies were far from close). xD *might have to take notes on where all 99 puppies now*
  • I hunted down Jet Balloon, so I put up its entry. Also, the Missile Diver entry is a lie; there's no such thing when I checked my Journal of (near) completeness.

Well, that's all I wanted to let you know. Happy New Year's!

Game Navis

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 23:15, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png While on the IRC, Azul and I realized that the game navi's aren't such a good idea after all... Please see Forum:Game Navis and place your input. Much appreciated. Thank you very much. Expect a special present for all of your hard work some time this week. It's also the unofficial and early anniversary of our first conversation when our gravelly "friendship" was established. As to what it is, I can't say. Perhaps some cookies and some other second thing could persuade it out of me. In the academic world, ever glance at Animal Farm? It was the easiest read I've had for a school-based assignment, but I don't really get it. Worst part is I have a test on it next week :{

New talk bubble

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Lord Captain Cecil Harvey - No one ever plays with me anymore.
TALK - 21:19, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Hi, it's a new user. What happened to the Roxas with a Moogle pompom on his head go, I rather like that one. If your wondering HOW I know this, I saw you a while ago, before Christmas. Didn't bother to make an account then, but, yeah. Why?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 00:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png I just changed my talk template a few times. Before the holiday season began, I had the Roxas-Moogle. I then switched over to a festive Kingdom Hearts Mobile sprite for the holidays, and have now settled with my customized Yellow Opera. I like to be unique, hence my Roxas-Moogle and Yellow Opera.


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Lord Captain Cecil Harvey - No one ever plays with me anymore.
TALK - 21:19, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Aww, I think it's kinda cute!

Thank you!

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HeartofOblivion Talk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 01:31, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Thank you! If you see anymore, you are free to change them. By the way, ENX brought to my attention that I still had my Luxord avatar and I just noticed you still had a Roxas avatar. I didn't know if you wanted to change it but just letting you know!
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 01:33, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png No problem, HeartOfOblivion. Oh, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Community List

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Lord Captain Cecil Harvey - No one ever plays with me anymore.
TALK - 21:19, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Yo. Is there a reason why I can't view the list?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 01:51, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png I don't see why you shouldn't; perhaps you are trying to access it the wrong way. In the side-bars, it can be found in Community --> Featured Users --> more....

Mission Allies

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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 04:05, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
How to handle mission 56, which has 2 allies?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 04:07, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Good point. I just did the coding for that now, put in [[Axel]], [[Xion]].
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 04:20, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
Cool.
Luxord seems to be triggering the Larxene category (See Mission 51)

EDIT: nevermind, went and fixed it myself

goodbye?

Spoiler break or pissed off break?Glorious CHAOS! 02:20, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler break, I've had this planned. I was initially elated in our previous conversation today that Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep's spoilers would remain off of the wiki until its North American or European release, but that has since changed. It pains me to go, but there's no other choice for me to remain spoiler-free. --DTN Room Core.png 02:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh DTN...

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 04:19, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Through the child-like use of covering the actual article's text with my arm, I was able to notice that the Game template was missing. I did the same thing in the editing window. I'm still trying to still do some of my usual editing and image cleanup.
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Saxisai Chat it up! — AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "That boy is already infused with darkness, he is a monster!"Saxisai 04:41, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

(using this text bubble so I dont spoil you)

It's a shame that the article is being deleted and I cant fight for it in the Deletion thread. But it looks like you got what you wanted DTN, no spoilers :P

(oh and i would go directly to my talk page if you are going to respond to this, lol, because there are some spoilers on my user page :P)

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 04:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Alas, Saxisai, I believe that the community has already voted on allowing the spoilers to be immediately added to the articles; see KrytenKoro and fellow users' messages on Forum:Birth By Sleep spoiler policy.

Redirecting

Do you know how to delete redirecting links? --Cococrash11 03:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

Yes, you nominate them for deletions here; however, redirects are not usually deleted, so be sure that the redirect in question can absolutely not be used before nominating it for deletion. --DTN Room Core.png 03:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I move Kingdom Hearts (manga) to Kingdom Hearts series (manga) but I try to transfer info about KHI manga to KH (manga) but it keep redirecting to KH series (manga) instead. --Cococrash11 03:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

Tigger's Playground

A while ago, the consensus was that as part of the world article cleanup and removal of room pages, we would add short sections on each location to the world page. While this has yet to happen, it still should, and this link is in anticipation of that. It's also the way I formatted all of the Item and Synthesis pages that I've worked on.Glorious CHAOS! 05:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

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KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on."
TALK -
That one would be a dedicated link to the Tigger's Playground section, though.
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KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living."
TALK -
I would assume so, but if the wiki disagrees with that, I would prefer that the Tigger's Playground link be kept, and the one earlier in the lead be blacked.

Re:Spoiler Sprite

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Saxisai Chat it up! — Do you remember

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "when the world was a simpler place?"Saxisai 01:08, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well, i guess i have to, but what sucks about it is, I guessed that and made most of those before BBS was even released, so for my hard work, I have to take them down...

EDIT: Oh and one of my older images was going to be up for deletion because it wasnt linked to any page or w.e, so i hope that all my images arent going to get deleted because they arent linked to my talk template or any other page they were linked to...

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Saxisai Chat it up! — Do you remember

Unversed logo (removed) KHBBS.png "when the world was a simpler place?"Saxisai 02:36, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and btw, I re-read your message to me and i noticed that you said that my bubbles were "all over the wiki" when I mostly just post them on the talk pages of BBS related articles, or on talk pages...so what do you mean by this? if people didnt want to be spoiled, then why the heck are they looking at the BBS articles?

asking

Ahooy there, is there anyone can teach me about how to use talk page?114.59.194.126 13:15, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Can you please tell me if Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep will be for the psp go? If it isn't, could somehow get someone to install a copy via something else? --Metallix-117R 01:12, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Nintendo Power Awards

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Falcon Mrk II - That secret stays with me.
TALK - 02:10, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
Hey DTN, Days won all the Nintendo Power awards it was nominated in!!!! Go Roxas!
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Falcon Mrk II - That secret stays with me.
TALK - 02:10, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
Small correction, Days won all the Reader's Choice awards. Still awesome!!!

Thanks

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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!"
TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Hey, thanks for the coding on that in need of template. I knew the coding to get the template, but forgot how to put the message. Thanks! Oh, and would you like to be my friend? Remember Donkey's quote from Shrek: "But ya gotta have friends!"

Results

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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - Don't worry. You might forget about me...But, with our promise, I'll come back.
You might want to see this! 358/2 Days won!

Edit Warring?

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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png I was watching the edits too, and that was a pretty harsh, DTN. Werehog didn't seem aware of why the sections were removed and didn't revert them again once ENX gave him the reason. Neither of them edited any one of the articles than twice if I'm not mistaken. Was a warning really necessary?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 05:14, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Yes, a warning was necessary. Edit warring is a big "do not do"; it has been said time and time again that edit warring is not the way to resolve a conflict; there are at least three other ways to solve the issue: discuss the issue on a talk page, a Forum post, or on the wiki's IRC Channel. I understand that EternalNothingnessXIII is a regular contributor to the wiki, and if an administrator sees it fit, he can ask for it to be removed. However, this is simply one warning. A warning is just a reminder to say "hey, watch it." Now, if a user has three warnings, then it is something more serious. This isn't to say that a warning is to be ignored and considered unimportant, but it certainly shouldn't cause a ruckus and large commotion.

Also, as to my knowledge, an article in which both of the parties involved have reverted the article at least twice is considered edit warring.

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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png Not all users would agree with that. I know that I would consider a warning template much more serious than a moderator/admin just telling me on my talk page "hey, watch it". And defining edit warring as "more than two reverts" is ridiculously strict (I'm aware that you didn't set this, assuming that is how it is defined, just giving my opinion on that). The issue resolved itself, and immediately after you gave them the warnings.
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 05:33, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png The edit warring policy is not strictly defined on this wiki, but when it is plainly obvious that two users are reverting each others' edits on one article in succession, than it should be obvious that it is an edit war.

Also, are you aware of the "Three Revert Rule", derived from our model wiki, Wikipedia? The Three Revert Rule states that a user should not revert more than three edits on article on any one day. If they do, then the user is definitely considered to be edit warring. Now, this means that it should be plainly obvious that an edit war is taking place once three edits have been reverted by both parties to all users, particularly due to the word "definitely". Any user has the right to judge when they think the revisions have gone "over the top". I saw this case as one of those, since neither side showed any sign of backing down. EternalNothingnessXIII's final comment even began with an agressive statement. You claim that his reasoning made Werehog21 stop, but you really have no confirmation of that. The reason may just as well have been the warning I placed on his talk page.

It seems that EternalNothingnessXIII has approached BebopKate, asking for the warning to be removed. To make this process as peaceful as possible, I would rather stop our argument and let BebopKate handle the situation. Cococrash11 peacefully asked an administrator for her warning to be removed, and the process went just as she wanted. In model of that, we should just let this situation be resolved by ad administrator, as it has been in the past.


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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png So then 1) Our policy is not clearly stated anywhere, and is instead dirived from a different site (not your fault, just an issue that I'll probably bring up elsewhere), and 2) even by Wikipedia's Three Edit Rule, this decision was unfair. You can check Saix's edit history. Each of them reverted the edits only twice. But I digress, you're right, I'll leave it there. I certainly don't want to make an enemy out of you, I just felt the decision was unfair. No hard feelings I hope?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 05:55, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Just as I have said here, the community is bound to have conflicts and disputes. You interpret Wikipedia's "Three Revert Rule" differently than I do, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. We have a very large community on this wiki, we are naturally bound to have more conflicts like this one because of that. We generally follow Wikipedia's example on rules and policy, such as their policy on Assuming good faith. I certainly have no agressive or negative feelings toward you, and you have definitely not made an enemy out of me; after all, debate is a healthy and natural part of being part of a group of unified people working toward a goal.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:59, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
I have a question, DTN: how long was it in-between ENX's last edit and the warnings you put on his and Werehog's pages?
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 23:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png EternalNothingnessXIII's last edit to the Saïx article was approximately seven minutes before I delivered the warnings to both Werehog21 and EternalNothingnessXIII's talk pages; both warnings were applied at the same time.
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TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!"
TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Hi DTN. Don't get mad at me or anything, I am not questioning your power, but I can't understand why there was a warning involved. It makes no sense because it stopped immediatly after the explaination was given. He is devastated, and I am feeling upset for him, yet confused as to why it was recieved. Not to get on your bad side though.
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

I feel that ENX did not deserve a warning. That wasn't even close to edit-warring. He undid the edit TWICE and gave a place where the other user could look for an explanation. That does not deserve a warning and it doesn't deserve immature gossip on the IRC. This has gone way overboard. I pray that his warning will be taken away soon. I will go to every single admin about this until I get results. Reverting TWO edits does not deserve a warning.
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 02:34, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png I understand, ZexionTheGamer and Nitrous X, that you feel this action was unjustified and was a bad choice of mine. However, this is not only an issue that has nothing to deal with any of you, but it also is a choice that I already made, and I can't revoke the warning; only an administrator can remove an warning. My best advice to you is to let this play out in its natural, systematic manner. This is already taking place here. I do hope this issue can be immediately resolved, because it is taking away time and attention from myself, EternalNothingnessXIII, BebopKate, and other users who wish to express their opinion, even though the issue does not concern them at all.

Also, Nitrous X, I am completely unaware of any gossiping that took place on the IRC; what I do remember is that I was informing Super Sword-chucks and Maggosh of a recent event on the wiki, and I in no manner was putting down or thrashing EternalNothingnessXIII. Trust me, I have been thrashed plenty of times on the wiki, I wouldn't turn around and bash another user. I respect EternalNothingnessXIII for his contributions to this wiki and the articles that he has started. I gave him the warning because it reflects what I consider to be an edit war, and if it gets revoked, then so be it. Then this whole conflict shall be resolved, and we can get back to editing, the real reason why we should all be here.


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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

It deals with me me because a friend has been punished for no reason. You yourself said that edit-warring is defined as THREE edit reversions, while ENX only made TWO.

In the matter of the IRC: I have seen word-for-word what happened that day on the IRC, through a Sticky Note-type source. There was gossiping, so using different wording to cover it won't work. What you consider to be an edit war isn't even what happened.

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 02:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png I myself do not remember defining an edit war before this; now please stop, everyone. I have a life to live, and it doesn't involve getting people's opinions on what I supposedly do wrong. Let enough be enough. This is a wiki, not a debate hall.
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

You said it in your second message of this section. Just an FYI, not trying to start something.
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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 02:57, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png And I go on to explain my interpretation of the Three Revert Rule. I suggest you read it, and my message that follows that about the nature of conflicts.

Game template

Hello. Xion4ever said that you were the one who started the Game template. I just wanted to know if I could edit it, so that when you hover the cursor over the icon, it displays the name of the game. So, could I? --Random Ranaun 01:19, March 15, 2010 (UTC)