Talk:Dive to the Heart

Don't you think the top of the world should be mentioned? Play through the first part of Kingdom Hearts, switch to 1st person view, then look up (as long as you're on one of the pillars). It makes you have an uneasy feeling!

You might be right. Yeah, I notice that sinister single light that falls on the pillars. In the last pillar, it's that light that creates Sora's shadow and ultimately causes Darkside to awaken. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

In kh1 and 2 this is like a tutorial, yes? Then maybe in BbS we'll have something similair for ventus, aqua or terra( or al three of them)82.136.203.25 18:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we would. Though we don't have the same for Chain of Memories. And we probably wouldn't have the same for Days. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Treasure

In KH1, there is the one Potion chest at the free princess platform.

I know there's some in KH2, but I don't have my guide at hand right now.Glorious CHAOS! 04:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The KH potion is inside the box you have to smash. There are two potions in KH2; one in the Station of Serenity and the other in the Station of Calling. - HeartOfOblivion 04:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

What's inside that treasure chest in KH1, then?Glorious CHAOS! 04:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

When you open the chest, the box with the potion appears. It's because Sora has to learn to push things, I guess. - HeartOfOblivion 04:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

There should probably still be the table for it, though, with the explanation in the "note" bit.Glorious CHAOS! 06:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The Voice

PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart - I'm the only one! TALK - Woo hoo hoo hoo! I have a friend who thinks that the voice is Mickey. She thinks so because the voice's font is the same as Mickey's. Unfortunally I have no proof from the pics...

LotsoBearLover - Welcome to sunnyside! TALK - You've got a playdate with destiny!" maybe sooo :D

Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this? I always thought it was Ansem. Midway through the voice says, "There is so very much to learn. You understand so little." And then at the game's climax he says, "So you've come this far and still you understand nothing." My other theory is that it was Xemnas. This would make sense since remember, Xemnas was planning on using Sora to gain control of Kingdom Hearts. So when he learned of a Heartless invasion going to the Destiny Islands he probably gave Sora the basic tutorial to start collecting Hearts. Also I honestly cannot picture Mickey saying, "You alone can open the door." That really just sounds more like one of the aforementioned villains. It just doesn't sound right with Mickey's voice when I say it aloud.

KrytenKoro - "Punch your lights out, hit the pavement. That's what I call entertainment. Causin' problems makes you famous - all the violence makes a statement." TALK - "So you've come this far and still you understand nothing." is from a different scene, not the awakening. When Riku goes on the same journey into his heart in Final Mix, after Xehanort takes his body, he hears the same voice, and it clearly identifies itself as Mickey. Really, think about it - the voice even said the same kind of stuff Mickey did in CoM, but was reassuring and not critical, like Xemnas and Ansem's "Voices" were. Plus, the weapons the voice gives Sora are all the Dream weapons, symbols of Mickey.

Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this? True but the Voice seemed calm and collected with a cool feel to it. Honestly Mickey sounds like the big-headed cartoon character he is. Really I cannot hear him saying the Voice's dialogue: "You alone can open the door." I honestly cannot picture that. It just doesn't feel right. Although you're right about the Ansem part I'm still clinging to my Xemnas theory. We never heard Xemnas' voice and for the most part the Voice seemed cold and emotionless: Xemnas alert. Also he seems to have the most motive for doing it.

• Mysterious Voice: So much to do, so little time... Take your time. Don’t be afraid. The door is still shut. Now, step forward. Can you do it?
• Mysterious Voice: If you give it form... It will give you strength. Choose well.
• Mysterious Voice: The power of the guardian. Kindness to aid friends. A shield to repel all. Is this the power you seek?
• Mysterious Voice: Your path is set.
• Mysterious Voice: Now, what will you give up in exchange?
• Mysterious Voice: The power of the warrior. Invincible courage. A sword of terrible destruction. You give up this power?
• Mysterious Voice: You’ve chosen the power of the guardian. You’ve given up the power of the warrior. Is this the form you choose?
• Mysterious Voice: You gained the power to fight.
• Mysterious Voice: All right! You’ve got it. Use this power to protect yourself and others.
• Mysterious Voice: There will be times when you have to fight. Keep your light burning strong.
• Mysterious Voice: Behind you!
• Mysterious Voice: Hold on. The door won’t open just yet. First, tell me more about yourself.
• Mysterious Voice: You’re afraid of getting old. You want to see rare sights. You want to be number one. Your adventure begins at dawn. As long as the sun is shining, your journey should be a pleasant one.
• Mysterious Voice: The day you will open the door is both far off and very near.
• Mysterious Voice: The closer you get to light, the greater your shadow becomes.
• Mysterious Voice: But don’t be afraid. And don’t forget...
• Mysterious Voice: But don’t be afraid. You hold the mightiest weapon of all.
• Mysterious Voice: So don’t forget: You are the one who will open the door.

The biggest tone I'm getting from this is that it is incredibly reassuring, and someone who understands friendship. That's just not Xemnas, at all. He tells Sora not to fight for any selfish goal, or even the impartial "justice", but in order to protect his friends - Xemnas would never say that. Hell, do Xemnas or Xehanort ever use exclamation marks?Glorious CHAOS! 00:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this? But still Xemnas could've easily been manipulating. For all we know it could've been someone like Axel sent to do it. But that's besides the point. I honestly can't believe Mickey does that. That guy is so little and puny I find it hard that he actually rules a kingdom and that he can beat up Xaldin.

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. Since BBS was announced, I always thought that that voice was Ven's. We do know that he's got some link with Sora, and that Xemnas was looking for the room of awakening, where another friend is, since Aqua is in the room of sleep. There's other things I could say, but I have to sleep (it's 4:30 AM where I am)

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Name

Where does "Awakening" come from? I ask because Ultimania explicitly calls it "Dive to Heart". In Latin letters, even. Interobangu 06:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

And the Official English BradyGames Strategy Guide calls it "Dive to the Heart". Currently, that's a redirect to this page.--DoorToNothing 06:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll check one more time to be absolutely sure, but:

You know how in KH1, when you save, it lists what world you're in? The mandatory save in the tutorial world lists it as "Awakening".Glorious CHAOS! 07:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, also, after the save circle appears on Aurora's station, you can finally access your menu. It lists the room as "Awakening" as well. Now, both of these are in text, rather than logo, so it's probably the dub name, though the first KH2 Puzzle, which respresents the tutorial area, is named "Awakening" (Mezame), and a section of Roxas's tutorial, the one where you also fight him during the vision in TWTNW, is called "Station of Awakening".

Wait, thinking back, did the KH1 save list the world or the room? It could be possible that the "world" is "Dive to (the) Heart", and the Station of Awakening is just named "Awakening" in KH1. Interrobang, does the Ultimania call it "Dive to Heart" as just a name, or as a logo? Also, since KH2 does display the world name and logo when saving, can either of you check real quick what happens when you save or pause at the Awakening in KH2? I can check tomorrow evening, when I go back home, if you guys can't.Glorious CHAOS! 07:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Nah, not a logo. Just plain Latin letters. The section header for Dive to Heart isn't in the same format as the others. (Disney Castle gets a section, and it is in the regular format, with a logo and all.) I could check the games, but everything's downstairs and I don't really want to wake up my roommates at so late. Interobangu 07:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I'll check it tomorrow night, then (well, tonight really). Damn, I may have buggered everything buy telling everyone it was the Awakening for so long.Glorious CHAOS! 07:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

KH2 lists it as part of Twilight Town. Since the KH1 save system lists only the room, it would be a fair compromise to all sources to say that "Awakening" is the room, and "Dive to the Heart" is the dubbed world name. Interobangu, could you provide the name in kana, so we can use the nihongo template?Glorious CHAOS! 03:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)