Talk:Axel

Just saying...

Even though it dosen't really make sense, I think Axel is Riku's nobody. This would make sense because if you look at all the pictures of kingdom hearts games you'll find something in common. When Riku, Sora and Kari all stand by that one tree on Destiny islands they always stand in the same order Sora at the back, Kairi in the middle and Riku at the front. Now I was saw a picture from 358/2 days that shows Roxas, Xion, and Axel all standing at the same tree in the same order. Plus Roxas and Axel are friends the same way Riku and Sora are. I know Riku turned into a heartless at some point so he has to have one. So basically we have instead of the order being Sora, Kairi, Riku; its Sora's nobody, Kairi's nobody, and then Riku's nobody?

Heres the pictures:

They even have the same posture o.o

A little too off topic but i just want to say it; I think Terra is Riku's rebirth and I think Xion is definatly the nobody of Sora and Kiari because if you simply take the O from Sora's name and the I from Kairi's name and add an X then its Xion.

KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK - Namine is the Nobody of Sora and Kairi. That much is canon, and undisputable. As for Axel - He is implied to have existed for awhile before Roxas did (both through talk of not having feelings til Roxas came around, and for being the second of the new members), and Sora didn't become a Heartless much after Riku "lost" his heart. Plus. Riku is not spelt with an a, l, or e. Honestly, for Xion, it might be something like Xehnort - take out the X, you have "No I". Maybe she simply doesn't have a "somebody".

xnaminex was once talking about Namine and DiZ, and how Namine was talking about Sora's leaked memories, and making a reference to Xion. Think Xion could be formed out of those leaked memories ? As for Axel... I'm lost. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Amy Cotton - Trust in yourself and you can archive anything. TALK - You are better off talking to me here. We will figure out who's nobody Axel was soon. If you take out the X in his name, it might give us a clue. E.g. Lea, Ale. But I would go with the latter since Ale was the name of a drink Reno liked.

On second thought, we may have to refute the "leaked" memories theory. See the section "New Theory" below in Talk:Xion. Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. • TroisNyxÉtienne

PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart - I'm the only one! TALK - Woo hoo hoo hoo! Person who posted the pic, GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE!!! I was thinking the exact same thing. I think Axel is Riku's nobody, or at least formed from part of him. But we'll see in Days.

Yeah

Axel is so kewl. He rox. It's so sad that he has to die. :(

sorry to bother who ever may be reading this but I think there should be a section called "abilities" of "attacks" and under it should be a list of all axel's sleights in chain of memories. If there is no response I will try to make a list myself and add it here when its done so that then a member can add it to the page if they like but I tell you it will take ages for me to do it so perhaps you should get your guys on it. but only if you want.

Luis

Well, I believe that in CoM, all he has is Fire Tooth and Fire Wall, and with RE:Com, Its Fire Wall, Fire Cutter version 1 and Fire cutter version 2.

Original Name

This is just a thought, but could his original name possibly be Alex? ( nobody said it couldn't have an X in it already. )

But Tetsuya Nomura-san did not state that name is official.--NeloAngelo 07:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, it was just a question, you didn't have to be so rude

He's just saying that you can only put things that are confirmed, not "what if"s or "possibly"sXienZo 03:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I know, but I never said anything about actually posting it. besides you guys put a "possibly" on Larxene's name

Did not, some anon added it, and since I'll probably screw up reverting it, I rest my case.--NeloAngelo 07:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

It's also been stated that a Nobody name is the original name with the additional X, so only if his name had two X's could it have been Alex originally. The Patron Saint of Lost Causes 19:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

This is Axel's real name its Lea pronounced as "Lee".

ORLY? XienZo 02:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

yes im making a list of everyones real name

Ahem, well the thing is... we can only put stuff that Nomura said himself you know. But if you want to try to guess them go ahead, as long as they don't go into the actual article... XienZo 00:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Omni Terra - King of Shadow TALK - 03:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC) Axel's original name wasn't Lea. Axel is based on a certain FF character whose favorite drink was Ale so there ya go. I'm also fairly sure Nomura confirmed it in an interview.

Eh, well, we gotta have the link, and I've checked every single one of the interviews, and none of them said that, only the based-off Reno part, not the ale. Besides, Nomura probably wouldn't use an explanation for a name to be based on FF characters that some people who play KH wouldn't know about...XienZo 04:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

He is based off of Reno from Final Fantasy Advent Children. Beth B.

Yeah I noticed they have the same voice Rikloud 17:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Axel was partially based off of Reno, as Tetsuya Nomura has already confirmed, because he wanted to "put a familiar character in an unfamiliar scenario". They are not related in any way other than that unless Tetsuya Nomura says otherwise. The only members whose names have even remotely been revealed are Xemnas, Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, Zexion, and Roxas. As for the Larxene comment, the fact that some common names can be made from her name is just trivia, not speculation. Now listing all the possible names for her or any other member, that is speculation. LapisScarab 01:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay but 'Lea' or 'Ale'? Honestly, I can see why Axel would want to change his name if it was either. I can't see him as a 'Lea'. Ale would be a pretty odd name for someone. Who would name their kid 'Ale'? Lady Nevaeh 07:00, 1 June 2009

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. In a 358/2 cutscene, we can hear Saïx calling Axel "Lea" (I think). If it's his real name, it'll be a bit stupid, 'cause Lea in France is a girl name -__-

Quick question

Yeah, mine is about Axel's name, his orginal self, just basically it does not have to be Axel rearranged with an x taken out, remember, he could've taken on that name or something much like that, like Xemnas did, as his real name is not Ansem but Xehonart. Just a thought is all 121.72.8.134 23:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Well its a cool thought I'll give ya that90.202.236.189 09:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Quick thought

Yeah, mine is about Axel's name, his orginal self, just basically it does not have to be Axel rearranged with an x taken out, remember, he could've taken on that name or something much like that, like Xemnas did, as his real name is not Ansem but Xehonart. Just a thought is all 121.72.8.134 23:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It didn't HAVE to go through the anagram thing. If he got permission from Xemnas and a good reason to. Last time I checked, they weren't on good terms, so it probably is an anagram. XienZo 00:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Reno = Axel

Billylemmon - "If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there." TALK - Lewis Carroll Umm; I was wondering if it was okay to put a picture of Reno in the trivia section, just as over on the FF Wikia, they have a picture of Axel in Reno's Trivia section. I already picked out a picture.

I think it's a great idea. :)Lady Nevaeh 07:21, 1 June 2009

A little help with Axel's Data Replica, please ?

I tried taking Axel out but before I could even get rid of his first bar of HP, Sora died. The reaction command didn't appear and Sora's HP was depleted walking on the fiery floor. A little help here, please, and thank you ! Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. • TroisNyxÉtienne

I'm not sure, I don't have Final Mix but I think the Reaction only appears when you finish a combo, or when he hides in flames (Shrugs)

Okay, let me give it in a little more detail. The HP bar depletes faster when Sora's on the flames. Hiding in flames is not going to trigger the Reaction Command (this is similar for all Data Replica battles). Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Uhh....

Umm...I have a question:Is possible for humanoid Nobodies to...have kids?

gohanRULEZ 18:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I suppose the only things they're missing are hearts but.....

BUT?

gohanRULEZ 18:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} hehe, I've thought about this before :P Can nobodies breed?

wow... what an odd question. uuummmmmm... my guess would be yes. Because in physically speaking, they have human bodies. but then agian, a Nobody child would has no heart, something needed for complete exsistance. But it would be a Nobody child, meaning it would never be complete in the first place.... my guess is still yes though. -xNaminéx

GohanRULEZ - Turn Back the Pendulum,Shout the Truth TALK - We're not tools of the government or anyone else. Fighting was the only thing I was good at, but at least I always fought for what I believed in Good! I was gonna write an Fanfic were Axel and A Girl were going to get together and have a Kid.

.....good..luck. glad i could...help.. O.o -xNaminéx

Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity User Talk · Sandbox · 358/2 Days Guide · 17:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC) I see no reason why they couldn't reproduce. Still, while we're on the subject of Organization member physiology, I personally like the idea that, just like other Nobodies, the humanoid ones also have the emblem on their body somewhere. Kinda like a tattoo, except it's intrinsic to their body. :P Category: Nobiology (a name for an academic area of study I just made up)

The only problem with the theory is that Nobodies are supposed to be nonexistent. What's more, they're created from the body of a strong-hearted person turned Heartless. If they wanted to reproduce, they could just throw people into the darkness. Keyblader 20:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity User Talk · Sandbox · 358/2 Days Guide · 13:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC) That wouldn't be reproduction, Keyblader. That'd be increasing the "population", but we're discussing reproduction in the biological sense. Seriously though, it would be interesting to say the least. Picture the scene: Xemnas and Saïx are discussing a new mission... Saïx: ...and which member should I assign this mission to, Xemnas? Xemnas: Larxene hasn't been assigned anything for a while. Send her. Saïx: I think she's still on maternity leave for a few more weeks. Xemnas: <facepalms> It would be pretty funny if that happened :P Category: Nobiology discussion

Bad Language

Is it true that Axel said 'damn' in Chain of Memories?Pizzahut101 02:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I know he said it in the prologue of Kingdom Hearts II, when he was trying to abduct Roxas for the first time. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

The only thing that could ever be called a swear in COM was that "give me a hell of a show!" thing.—Urutapu 07:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

But I wouldn't entirely say that Axel is foul-mouthed... I mean, of course, he goes past the limits of an E-rated game, but unlike most others, he has emotions, and that's what earns him our sympathy. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

I was very sad when poor Axel died. He and Roxas are the only members that don't desearve to die (dispite Roxas still being alive). Amalia 12:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

True..... Why is it that the mentors must always die ? Ansem the Wise died. Axel died. Goodness knows what happened to Terra (and God forbid, he became Xehanort !). Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

I wouldn't be amazed if Axel cussing is true, in my opinion Axel is probably the weirdest character so far.--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 18:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Rikloud - sleep TALK - Yeah well seems like a boring place to take a nap anyway he is also one of the coolest the others being Roxas and Riku

Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this? It's kinda a golden rule of pop culture: video games, movies, books etc. If there's a character that's lovable and everyone likes, they're screwed. What happened to Gandalf in the first Lord of the Rings movie? Read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Watch Dante's Peak and tell me what happens to Granny Ruth. You get my point.

PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart - I'm the only one! TALK - Woo hoo hoo hoo! he does cuss in CoM, I just got to that point in the game. But I don't think he said... da- ... uh... the D word in CoM, if he does, I haven't seen it yet. ( I don't believe in cussing anymore, so I try not to say that stuff anymore. :( It's really hard. )

It was when he used Namine to double-cross Marluxia and Larxene. The words were changed when it went to Re: CoM. Keyblader 20:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

rip off

Me (xion) and my brother (axl) were using the screen names xion and axl for years before kingdom hearts came out . Some game desingers saw us on the net and stole our names.--208.118.200.168 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) xion.

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} again, I really doubt that! plus, how does axl connect to Axel? anyway, Axel is somewhat based on a FF character named Reno, his favorite drink was ALE, and rumbled together +X, they make Axel! plus, If my name was the same as a KH character, I'd be delighted!

Sorry if I sound rude, anon, but get over yourself.—Urutapu 00:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I do have to agree with Xiggie and Urutapu. Just because your screen names feature in Days ? Get real, buddy. It should be an honour ! There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Obviously a coincidence.

It would be an honor to have characters in Kingdom Hearts share your username. I would be really pleased if they will have a character be called Princess Andie!--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 17:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.< TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah. that would be cool if they had a character named after me

You're kidding me, right? You think that a board of Creators in Japan is going to say, "Oh, look! We can take these two random names from the internet! It works perfectly! And one of them even sounds like a common enough Japanese name! Doesn't this work so nicely?" Lose the sense of grandeur. Keyblade Mage 00:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Keyblade Mage

Axel playable in single player in 358/2 Days

Just checked the new site update. Showcases solo Axel gameplay with one of his new weapons bein' demonstrated. Kaihedgie 02:12, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I just saw a new Axel pic. It's here: http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/ Find a way to get it. Look in Characters: Axel.

He's not the only one. Xaldin, Demyx and Luxord have different weapons too and they are played in solo too. Speaking of Axel, where's that new pic. The one where he's holding his chakrams in the character section?

So does 358 reveal his name as Lea, or is this more vandalism?Glorious CHAOS! 22:31, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Everybody is saying that it does. Guardian Soul 23:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It does. There is a scene from the game where Saix adresses him as "Lea"--or "Ria" in Japanese. LapisScarab 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Axel used to know Saïx?

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} "Axel: 'When I'm talking with Roxas and Xion, I remember my time as a human. Various memories of my childhood come back to me, and I get some kind of weird feeling. You'd think I could talk to Saix in the same way, but, weirdly enough I don't feel like talking to him like that. It's only a strangely fond thought. It's not me who's changed... it's you.'" That's translated from one of the secret reports.

KrytenKoro - "Punch your lights out, hit the pavement. That's what I call entertainment. Causin' problems makes you famous - all the violence makes a statement." TALK - Well, for all intents and purposes Axel is Reno, so maybe Saix and possibly Demyx or Luxord are meant to embody other Turks? It is after all a virtually analogous organization.

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. I bet we'll see their somebodies (Axel's and Saïx's) in BBS. They're probably childhood friends, who've lost their hearts when their world was destroyed (but after BBS, since they weren't probably nobodies yet when the Organization was created). The only thing I'm worried about is Axel's real name, Lea... It's a girl name...

Yowzer, how could they ever think of naming a boy Lea ? Unless the name cites Richard At Lea, one of the characters from the legendary Robin Hood. Ale is possible, but it's Reno's fave drink. Ela ? Lae ? Yikes. And Saix ? Goodness knows what his real name is. @Kryten : Luxord ? Perhaps. Larxene ? Definitely. Demyx ? I don't know. Saix ? I don't think so. Were there any berserk-ish people among the Turks ? I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne

Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!! TALK - {{{time}}} Well IMO Saïx does resemble Tseng, in the cool silent type, of course he didn't go berserk but that might come with the Nobodyness XD! Who knows

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - Don't worry. You might forget about me...But, with our promise, I'll come back. Wow, GS! I'm impressed! Where'd you find those translations, huh? Huuh? Please, tell me or show me the link! And what secret reports, do you mean from Roxas's Diary? On any note, I think Saix and Axel did know each other back in the past. I think, when I heard Saix called Axel his true name, Lea, I think Saix was the one who'd found him, when he joined the Organization!

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} Whoa whoa, when was that?

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... In 358/2 Days, Xiggie. I've watched the Japanese gameplay on YouTube.

Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity User Talk · Sandbox · 358/2 Days Guide · 20:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Re: Turks: Larxene is only one letter wrong for a xagranam of Elena, and both of them have blonde hair... Category: Suggestion

Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL ! Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire. They both have blond hair, but their personnality are really different. For Axel, in a secret report (can be found at heartstation) we can read this: "Day 356 — Happenings Outside What I Assumed (Saix) Things such as Roxas and Xion both pulling out of the Organization wasn’t part of our plan. Why did this happen? Roxas had become strong enough to knock me down. Lea, what did you want to do in the end? The plan we decided when the two of us joined the Organization together… No, that’s also already just a pipe dream. Everything has changed, hasn’t it? You, and me too…" So, they do join the Organization at the same time. What could this plan be ?

Joe Keyblade Aura Come chat! — You shouldn't judge anyone based on appearance. Dance, water, dance! Maybe they were gonna overthrow the organizaton like marluxia

Weapons

I have a question. Now that 358/2 Days came out in Japan, should we make separate articles on the Org.XIII Weapons? You know, like how we have an article on the Keyblade (even though it "IS" an important weapon). I think it will make it more organized to have the weapons separated by their user, for example have an article on Charkams and have the different kinds with their stats. Any insight is greatly appreciated! Xlatinsorax 14:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

BTW, Who is Lea? I've looked everywhere for a pic of her(him?) but it's like she doesn't exist...

Lea is Axel's name as a Somebody... so there probably isn't any pic of Lea as he is Axel. --Yer mom 00:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Technically you could have separate pictures of Lea. After all, the Nobody always looks slightly different to their Other. A significant difference is often lighter hair: Roxas and Naminé, for example -- Sorceror Nobody, 11:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Well there was the article called Organization XIII weapons were all the info on Axel's chakrams and Saïx's claymore and all that stuff was stored but when Days came out a lot of weapons came out with it. Having a single article for all the types of Chakrams, one for all the types of Lexicons (in Zexion's case) and another one for all the tipes of Knives (in Larexene's case) would seem alright at first but there are many types of weapons for each, hence the idea of creating a page for every single weapon instead of grouping all the types in a page (since it would look cramped), it's just like the keyblade, since it's such an iconic weapon it has its single page, but every type of keyblade has its own page with its own stats, where to obtain it, appeareance and stuff, in the case of the Orgainzation's weapons it's more or less like that, every weapon gets its page and the generic name for each (i.e. Axel's chakrams) is explained in his own page under the title Weapon like in here, I hope that helps XD --Yer mom 16:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Yea it makes sense. I was thinking, though, more along the lines of the Keyblade and using that as an example. Maybe we should wait until we get more information on their individual weapons and their stats/locations/etc..... Xlatinsorax 03:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

were is the secret report

the title says it allJoekeybladeaura 16:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Joekeybladeaura 16:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Orpheus of the Lyre Let's Talk ! — Prepare to scream ! Sally, why didn't I listen to you? which one?

Hey guys. Crazy story

PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart - I'm the only one! TALK - Woo hoo hoo hoo! When I was playing Re: CoM, my mom thought Axel was a girl!!! XD Just wanted to say that...

Last Man Standing, Sorta

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Axel the only Organization XIII member that does not die in COM? Givox 00:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Axel doesn't die in COM. If he died, it be sort of impossible for him to appear in KH2. JudgmentDay95 20:25 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. Axel only "played" dead on CoM. He returned to Roxas' side at the World That Never Was afterward. He later died saving Sora because of Roxas in KH2.

Yea, I was just making sure he was the only one who didn't die...Givox 01:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Lea

Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 12:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC) How should I be pronouncing "Lea" as of yet? I know that Days isn't out yet, but should I be saying "Leah", "Lee-ay", or "Lee"?

I think it's "Lee-uh". User:JudgmentDay95 13:04 15 July 2009 (UTC)

That's right.—Urutapu 18:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 20:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC) Thanks. I hate that pronunciation, sounds to "girly" for Axel, but Ok. I think "Lee-ay" would be much better, but on the plus side, at least I've been saying it right...

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 21:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC) I know that it is pronounced "lee-ah", but I when I see this name, I keep thinging "læ" (æ is a letter which makes the sound ae, like in "Lie")... and pronounce it like you say lie :P Damm my Icelandic brain :P

I'd actually prefer that ("Lie") as opposed to the true pronunciation. User:JudgmentDay95 16:48 15 July 2009

Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 21:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC) "Lie" would actually be cool for Axel. But even if they don't pronounce it this way, I'll always call him "Lee-ay" ^_^. But Lie is also cool, because it fits Axel's devious personality.