Talk:Luxord: Difference between revisions

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Improved Luxord pic[edit]

Check out the Japanese site of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. There's an improved Luxord pic. Xaldin too. And one of Axel with his chakrams, if you're interested.

Music[edit]

Just to note that in the trivia section it mentions the 13th struggle being because:

"he is the only original Kingdom Hearts II character to have the theme, most likely because all (except Marluxia) Castle Oblivion members had this theme, and that Castle Oblivion used cards. "

Axel, and unknown (Riku in cloak) have it, and they all have it because its an organisation fight (or alleged in the case of riku) without allies. 81.23.48.110 01:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Director's favourtie member[edit]

I beg to differ. It doesn't say he is his favourtie member here:[[1]] Where did the statement about Luxord being his favourite member come from? (Bananaphone1996 02:20, May 9, 2010 (UTC))

The trivia piece says it's stated in a "Kingdom Hearts Character Report", though we really do need an actual source for that.--Lapis of the Night 03:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Secret Reports[edit]

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice?
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?

Luxord only writes a couple of Secret Reports, but one of them caught my eye. Luxord talks about envying "the children" (probably Roxas and Xion), because they are more innocent and don't see life as a "gamble". That's probably worth mentioning in the personality section.

An Oath To Return[edit]

Okay.... This is officially that moment. People have been speculating whether it was Luxord in Re Mind's secret ending since they heard Robin Atkin Downes's voice for the driver, but watching the [Japanese version]....and it's 100% George Nakata voicing the driver as well - you simply can't speculate with that man's voice no less than you can Morgan Freeman's - you hear it, it's him. So.....now the question is how do we implement it into the wiki? Too big to ignore, too vague to state outright it's one thing or another. --Samoa Joe (talk) 04:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

While I agree that the driver is most likely Luxord there is still a slim chance that it means nothing. For comparison both Riku’s English and Japanese voice actors provided the voice of Young Xehanort in BbS without it having any deeper significant. - JTD95 (talk) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Riku and Xehanort don't look alike though. That casting choice was made squarely out of convenience, and it was rectified in the HD remixes. --Samoa Joe (talk) 13:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Point is this could also just be a placeholder voice. And we see so little of the driver that we can’t claim he looks like Luxord. Again, I agree that it most likely is him, but as of now it’s only speculation.

Edit: at most I think we can add to the trivia section that both of Luxord’s VAs provide the voice for the drive on the An Oath To Return page, but I don’t think it should be mentioned on Luxord’s page. - JTD95 (talk) 15:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

If we have confirmation for the VAs, then we could add it to the Secret Ending page, but I don't believe we do, so we can't add it. You can say that you're sure it's Luxord's VA, but we need proof. The only thing we have is Robin Atkin Downes replying "It sounds like me" when asked about it. And that's not enough. TheSilent Hero 15:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I've already brought this topic up on the An Oath to Return talk page. While it's okay to theorise whom the driver is, flat out saying that it's "in fact" Luxord is just taking a massive leap of faith. While I do agree with the theories that it may indeed be him, as mindbendingly obvious as it seems, until Nomura or SE say this is Luxord, we can't say it is. CrinosWolf500 (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

How about a linkback of some sort then? I remember about a year ago when Lauriam first showed up in UX, we didn't have a confirmation of who he was....despite it being so hilariously, painfully obvious. So the pages simply linked back to each other without stating anything. Marluxia linked to Lauriam, and vice versa. Granted for that, we'll need a page for the driver....but lol, do we have enough on the dude to actually make one? He...has similar hair to Luxord, he's an officer of some sort since he refers to Yozora as a commander, and....he drives....good lol? --Samoa Joe (talk) 16:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

By the by, can someone on here with a TV Tropes account do me a super duper favor? Can you please fix [Luxord's entry]. I know it's got nothing to do with the wiki here, but it's driving me mental. The capitalization of "somebody" really, really triggers me in particular lmao. --Samoa Joe (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

The big difference here is that we got a full look at Lauriam, plus the whole anagram of his name + X matched with Marluxia. We can hardly see the driver, we don't know his name, there's no official source for his VA, so it really would be speculation to even link to Luxord. TheSilent Hero 16:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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-== Luxord's whereabouts ==
-The whereabouts of Luxord (and several others) are unaccounted for as far as I know for most of the game.  Are there specific new cutscenes that say they stay in the castle?  Otherwise, it's just as possible (if not more likely) that they were out wreaking havoc with the Heartless like the active members.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 12:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
-also can we add info on him and other members and what they do in kingdom hearts 358/2 days.
-:He was probably in Port Royal most of the time, trying to corrupt as many hearts as possible with greed. ... I think...[[User:Summon:WALL•E|Summon:WALL•E]] 19:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
-== Luxord's Other's name ==
-In regard to all of the possible names being posted on Members #7-12, I think it's a little presumptuous to include different combinations of the prior Heart's name. Some of them (this page for example) aren't even correct. "Rurold" isn't even a possible combination of the remaining letters minus x of Luxord.
-If you want my opinion, his Other's name would have been Rould, anyway. :-P
-==Stub==
-{{Summon:WALL•E|text=Luxord still a stub? Seems fine to me.}}
-my theroy on his name is dulor because it sound alot like dealer and duel and because of his cards and stuff it sorta fits i kno kind of far off but im mean it may be connected.
-== Luxord Cards ==
-Luxord has been shown with cards the size of realworld playing cards, and also cards roughly as tall as him. Does he have two desk, one big one small? Does he have no actual deck and he just constantly creates new ones, choosing which size depending on the situation? Does he have only one deck and is somehow able to change their size at will? -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]
-{{TNE|text=That, I think we'll get to know once Days comes out. ^_^}}
-I also saw himuse a deck of cards with a green back. It could be one of his new weapons, the question is, which one? [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 15:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
-=Element of Time=
-{{Rikloud|text=I noticed that Luxord weilds the element of time and was surprised (I haven't even started KH2 yet) because I started a fanfiction with a main villan that has the very same element if you want to see his stats look [[User: Rikloud/Rikloud|here]]}}
 ==Improved Luxord pic==
 Check out the Japanese site of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. There's an improved Luxord pic. Xaldin too. And one of Axel with his chakrams, if you're interested.
-== Removed from article ==
+== Music ==
-This needs to be rewritten to be professional.
+Just to note that in the trivia section it mentions the 13th struggle being because:
-On top of a table, cards were placed side by side. [[Axel]] and Luxord faced each other, playing some sort of game it seemed. Axel tried stopping Luxord’s hand from turning up a card. Luxord said he wasn't waiting. Axel was glaring at the cards on the table. Luxord said, "''Whichever one, you’ve lost.''". Luxord shrugs, and turns a card. Axel buried his face in his arms when he finds out he lost, he then tells Luxord one more game. At Axel’s words, Luxord started shuffling the cards, laughing. [[Xigbar]] appeared and said the game looked like fun. Luxord then stopped shuffling and asked, "''How about a game, sir?''". Xigbar told Luxord, "''I’m not interested in this kinda game.''", teasingly, and sat on the edge of the table. Axel placed a hand on Xigbar’s shoulder and said, "''You taking a break today?''", speaking with him familiarly. "''Well, it’s a break, in a sense..Because [[Xemnas]] also went out.''", Xigbar repiled. Luxord commented that it's rare for him to go out. [[Xigbar]] says he goes here and there fairly often, because now was a very important time for the [[Organization XIII|Organization]]. [[Axel]] asked, "''What’s very important?''". [[Xigbar]] awnsered, "''The world is moving. We’ve gotta be worried about own fragment’s movement, right?''". Luxord leaned his head to one side wondering what he meant.
+"he is the only original Kingdom Hearts II character to have the theme, most likely because all (except Marluxia) Castle Oblivion members had this theme, and that Castle Oblivion used cards. "
-"''The rest is a secret,” Xigbar said, teasingly, getting off the table and starting to walk. He told them to be really careful not to let them use you. At Xigbar’s words, [[Axel]] and Luxord looked at each other. Luxord commented that the first six members have been companions since the outset, or so he'd heard. But their actions, there are all sorts of things where he doesn’t understand what on earth they want to do. [[Axel]] joked, grinning, "''Just say they have no real objectives or something. Let's have one more game.''". At Axel’s words, Luxord started cutting the deck.
+Axel, and unknown (Riku in cloak) have it, and they all have it because its an organisation fight (or alleged in the case of riku) without allies. [[Special:Contributions/81.23.48.110|81.23.48.110]] 01:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
-i guardian soul wrote this shabby thing. just look on heartstation.org. i also wrote the one with demyx
+== Director's favourtie member ==
-== Just a thought... ==
+I beg to differ. It doesn't say he is his favourtie member here:[[http://heartstation.org/]]
+Where did the statement about Luxord being his favourite member come from? ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 02:20, May 9, 2010 (UTC))
-{{OotL|text= Do you think Luxord was involved in the creation of [[Castle Oblivion]] or created the need for cards? Maybe I'm stupid (which i probably am) but it just came to mind.}}
+The trivia piece says it's stated in a "Kingdom Hearts Character Report", though we really do need an actual source for that.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 03:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
-{{XNX|text=He mighta been, not enough info. I think Luxord's character was based off of Castle Oblivion, though.}}
+==Secret Reports==
+{{LapisScarab|time=03:28, August 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Luxord only writes a couple of Secret Reports, but [[Secret Reports#Day 173: The Gamble|one of them]] caught my eye. Luxord talks about envying "the children" (probably Roxas and Xion), because they are more innocent and don't see life as a "gamble". That's probably worth mentioning in the personality section.}}
+== An Oath To Return ==
-{{OotL|text= That could explain it...I love Zexion but i think Zexion would've fit better in kh2 and luxord in COM}}
+Okay.... This is officially ''that moment''. People have been speculating whether it was Luxord in Re Mind's secret ending since they heard Robin Atkin Downes's voice for the driver, but watching the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmbPzKTb_aQ Japanese version]]....and it's 100% George Nakata voicing the driver as well - you simply can't ''speculate'' with that man's voice no less than you can Morgan Freeman's - you hear it, it's ''him.'' So.....now the question is how do we implement it into the wiki? Too big to ignore, too vague to state outright it's one thing or another. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 04:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
+:While I agree that the driver is most likely Luxord there is still a slim chance that it means nothing. For comparison both Riku’s English and Japanese voice actors provided the voice of Young Xehanort in BbS without it having any deeper significant. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
-{{XNX|text=I love Zexion too, but I think it he should stay in CoM. KHII focuses more on Organization XIII as a whole, so there's less character development of the remaining members. Being a main antagonist in CoM gave Zexion more of a purpose, in my opinion.}}
+::Riku and Xehanort don't look alike though. That casting choice was made squarely out of convenience, and it was rectified in the HD remixes. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 13:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
-{{OotL|text= i see your point....you changed my perspective ^^ plus his role in the basement gave him a kind of dark underdog feel.}}
-{{XNX|text=So true! I love his creepy-ness =P}}
-== Luxords Existence ==
-Does anyone but me think Luxord is like a filler for the 10th place of Org.xiii?
-He always seemed of to the world kh2.
-I think they should've replaced Larxene with Luxord.
-I feel Marluxia and Luxord would've made a great team and Larxene should've been in KH2 or stayed with Luxord in it.
-Any agree?≠[[User:Tokio Japon|Tokio Japon]] 04:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)Tokio Japon<code>♥♥</code>
-== Music ==
-Just to note that in the trivia section it mentions the 13th struggle being because:
-"he is the only original Kingdom Hearts II character to have the theme, most likely because all (except Marluxia) Castle Oblivion members had this theme, and that Castle Oblivion used cards. "
-Axel, and unknown (Riku in cloak) have it, and they all have it because its an organisation fight (or alleged in the case of riku) without allies. [[Special:Contributions/81.23.48.110|81.23.48.110]] 01:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Luxord's Rank ==
+:::Point is this could also just be a placeholder voice. And we see so little of the driver that we can’t claim he looks like Luxord. Again, I agree that it most likely is him, but as of now it’s only speculation.
+:::Edit: at most I think we can add to the trivia section that both of Luxord’s VAs provide the voice for the drive on the An Oath To Return page, but I don’t think it should be mentioned on Luxord’s page. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 15:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
+::::If we have confirmation for the VAs, then we could add it to the Secret Ending page, but I don't believe we do, so we can't add it. You can say that you're sure it's Luxord's VA, but we need proof. The only thing we have is Robin Atkin Downes replying "It sounds like me" when asked about it. And that's not enough. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
+:::::I've already brought this topic up on the [https://www.khwiki.com/Talk:An_Oath_to_Return#The_Driver? An Oath to Return talk page]. While it's okay to theorise whom the driver is, flat out saying that it's "''in fact''" Luxord is just taking a massive leap of faith. While I do agree with the theories that it may indeed be him, as ''mindbendingly obvious'' as it seems, until Nomura or SE say this is Luxord, we can't say it is. [[User:CrinosWolf500|CrinosWolf500]] ([[User talk:CrinosWolf500|talk]]) 15:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
+:::::How about a linkback of some sort then? I remember about a year ago when Lauriam first showed up in UX, we didn't have a confirmation of who he was....despite it being so hilariously, painfully obvious. So the pages simply linked back to each other without stating anything. Marluxia linked to Lauriam, and vice versa. Granted for that, we'll need a page for the driver....but lol, do we have enough on the dude to actually make one? He...has similar hair to Luxord, he's an officer of some sort since he refers to Yozora as a commander, and....he drives....good lol? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
-{{Morghman| Has anyone ever thought of Luxord's rank? I know he does like nothing in KH2, but there are signs that he might be 3rd-in-command. For instance, in Yen Sid's Tower, he is one of Xemnas's bodyguards in the hologram, the other being Saix, who is second-in-command, and Xemnas, the leader. He is also shown more than most members at the meetings held in Where Nothings Gather. Final piece of evidence, he is the third-to-last to die. I'm gonna add this in the trivia section, if anyone disagrees, you're free to take it down.}}
+By the by, can someone on here with a TV Tropes account do me a super duper favor? Can you please fix [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/KingdomHeartsOrganizationXIII Luxord's entry]]. I know it's got nothing to do with the wiki here, but it's ''driving me mental''. The capitalization of "somebody" really, '''''really''''' triggers me in particular lmao. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
+::::::The big difference here is that we got a full look at Lauriam, plus the whole anagram of his name + X matched with Marluxia. We can hardly see the driver, we don't know his name, there's no official source for his VA, so it really would be speculation to even link to Luxord. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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