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*Also, I was planning on making a Category:Disney Characters :(.  It doesn't seem like any "child" categories would be a bad idea unless they had too ''few'' members, not too many.
*Also, I was planning on making a Category:Disney Characters :(.  It doesn't seem like any "child" categories would be a bad idea unless they had too ''few'' members, not too many.
*And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{tname|InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages.  Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at [[KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains]], on a similar subject.)  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
*And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{tname|InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages.  Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at [[KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains]], on a similar subject.)  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
==Help with the Data Replica==
{{TNE|text=Good grief, it seems I'm using the talk pages to ask for help more than anything else !
But honestly, I'm in dire need of help with Xigbar's Data Replica. Fine, I can get past Xigbar's first-person view, but beyond that, when he keeps on changing the shape of the Hall of Empty Melodies, my HP gets depleted so fast. So please, anyone who's finished it and finished it well, help me...}}
:Check Bizkit's vids, you can't get any better than that; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlYZotba7U The point is spamming reflect to parry his gun arrows, so he gets stunned. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 04:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
{{TNE|remerciement=Thank youuuuuu. I'll try it out... that too, once I get my PS2 back. I owe you big time.}}
== Other Keyblade Masters ==
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/comment-page-41/
"'''Question''': We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields Keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?
'''Nomura''': Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise."
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I wonder, is it possible then, that Xigbar, Ansem and the other apprentices will appear in ''Birth by Sleep''? Maybe even be fought? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
{{Guardian Soul|text=I say that the chances of seeing Ansem's disciples in BBS are pretty high.  If they did witness the three Keyblade Masters, then I'm pretty sure that we'll encounter them, or at least some of them.  This is really the best chance that Nomura has to show them off anyhow.  Looking forward to seeing Ienzo.}}
{{TNE|text=If Xemnas and Xehanort bore a striking likeness to each other, then I guess I'll have to prepare to see Ienzo and Zexion having the same hair ! (I love Zexion's hair.)}}
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|text=I wouder what Xigbar looks like. in birth by sleep :P lets get our fingers crossed to see him
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{{TNE|text= ohhhhh yesssss. :D Wonder if he still had that pirate eye back when he was still known as Braig...}}
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{{TNE|text=uh. yeah. :) }}
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|text=I find something ood about KHbirth by sleep. I just find Xigbar was on there. you know the Secret Movie from KH2. I think Xigbar was spying on Terra,ven and aqua. don't you think?
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{{TNE|shocktext=I didn't notice. Wait, Xigbar was '''where''' ?}}
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{{TNE|text=Oh. That one. I get it. Thing is, I paid too much attention to the CG ^_^}}
{{Drake|time=16:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm actually wondering, what would be the context Xigbar meets them? Just observing them with Ansem, meeting them alone? I'm also wondering now, if the apprentices had their various elemental powers when they were human, or something like those powers.}}
{{TNE|text=Well, let's take a look at Xehanort and Roxas before we can make any deductions :
Roxas used the power of Light just like Sora. Xehanort.... well, he was darkness all the way through. So I reckon that the powers of the rest of the members (whilst they were still in human form) should be no different. Just guessing.}}
{{Drake|time=16:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=True. There'll probably be references to the powers of the other apprentices, like they'll carry their trademark weapons and such.}}
{{TNE|happytext=I can't wait to see how Braig looks like ! :D Now I'm somewhat confident that he'll be using snipers too.}}
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|text=here is what I was talking about [[Image:Xigbar_BBS.jpg|thumb]] don't you think thats xigbar?
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{{Drake|time=22:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Um, no, that's Master Xehanort. And why do you keep using ur talk bubble that way?
Also, welcome back.}}
{{Xiggie|text=Yep, that's Master Xehanort from the ending of [[The Gathering]] (or the beginning of [[Birth By Sleep]]). it's '''Not''' Xigbar. just watch the trailer!
also, you have a user template... why don't you use it?}}
I am not a pro of PCs or laptops xigg I am useing my step mother's anyway I was thinking it was xigbar but lets wait for troisnyx. T-T[[User:Eliskuya2|Eliskuya2]] 22:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
{{Xiggie|text=oh, I didn't mean to be disrespectful or anything... :P
if you wanna make your template: copy ours (mine, Drake's or troisnyx's) and replace our usernames with yours...}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=You don't need her opinion to be positive that the figure is Master Xehanort.  Watch the secret video, it shows him walking out of the shadow entirely.  Very old news.}}
{{Xiggie|text=was that picture all you had on your Xigbar-being-there theory?}}
Since Xigbar seems to know the most about the Keyblade War, and he doesn't really like Xemnas, I wonder if Xigbar was supposed to be a Keyblade wielder, but it chose Terra instead of him, and I think Terra turns into Xehanort... I guess we can only wait... --Morghman
{{NinjaSheik|text= Xigbar, a Keyblader wielder? No way. Xigbar's sweet and strong, but I don't know. He doesn't see like the kind of guy to master a Keyblade. I think Xigbar was there during the Keyblade War, or someone told him the story. Could be possible, right?}}
{{TNE|text='''Xigbar watched them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.''' This was directly taken from Another Report. Could Xehanort have already been recruited by then ? Xehanort was the #1, anyway, and Braig was only second to him.
If we manage to fill in this loophole, then we can be sure that Terra is - or is not - Xehanort.}}
Check this out:
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/
Xigbar and Demyx in higher quality


== Xigbar vs Ven (Xion) ==
== Xigbar vs Ven (Xion) ==
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er, day 354, i think.
er, day 354, i think.
==Xigbar's Name==
I wonder if Xigbar's name is pronounced Shig-Bar, you know, like Mar-lu-Sha or Shi-on. [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 17:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
{{NinjaSheik|text=No, I think it's pronounce Zig-Bar.}}
{{DoorToNothing|text=Agreed.}}
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, hello, DTN! Tee hee hee! It's my new nickname for you, it's faster than saying your full name. Thanks for agreeing with me!
Oh, and I heard what Amy is doing. Is is really okay to get invovled with something like this, on a wiki we don't even go to?}}
{{DoorToNothing|text=I get called DTN alot. (: I'm actually hoping to change part of my template to DTN to make it faster to type.
If you want to talk about this, we should talk on on of our talk pages.}}
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, I see!
Our talk pages, huh? Mmm...Okay, then. Well, I don't know if you want to talk about it, now, but give me a ping on my talk page whenever you're ready! Is it a date, then? Tee hee hee!}}
{{DoorToNothing|text=Heh heh.}}
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Aww, you're so cute, Roxas! Tee hee hee!}}'''  '''
'''{{Pokhmon|time=19:50, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=its pronounced zigbar }} '''
== Taunting Sora ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= OK, where it says that Xigbar stayed to torture Sora, are we sure it's Xigbar? Cuz I just passed that point (I'm replaying the game) and I am sure that's Axel who bugs Sora, not Xigbar.}}
No. The voices are totally different. And you'll notice Xigbar asks again later in the game "Have you been a good boy?". That's Xigbar. -EO
{{Flashpenny | Nope, it's totally Xigbar. I can recognize his voice anywhere. That and he tells Sora to be a good boy and just before they fight he remarks, "Have you been a good point?" Also Axel had ditched the Organization by that point.}}
{{Template:ST|time=17:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)|text=Besides, since when has Axel ever said "As if"?}}
{{Firaga44|text=Yeah it was definetly Xigbar who was taunting Sora.}}


==Nickname==
==Nickname==
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{{Pokhmon|time=19:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=i think its just demyx that calles xigbar ''xiggy'' }}
{{Pokhmon|time=19:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=i think its just demyx that calles xigbar ''xiggy'' }}
== Sora ==
When Xigbar told Sora "That's right! He used to give me that exact same look!" was he talking about Ven?
::No. He was talking about Roxas. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
I just thought that the comment Xigbar made to Xion when she had Ven's apperance and how Ven used looked at him was related to the one he made to Sora.
Are we really sure he meant Roxas? I mean it seems that way but Xigbar probably is the type to screw with someone like that.
Okay it could be that Ven is the originator of "the look" but Roxas (and Xion) continued it's usage up until He saw Sora in Radiant garden and decided to note the history of the situation.[[Special:Contributions/70.144.124.185|70.144.124.185]] 13:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


== Days Fight ==
== Days Fight ==
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Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.[[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.[[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


That's fine with me.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
That's fine with me.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
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::Exactly. REMOVE all speculation. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 09:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
::Exactly. REMOVE all speculation. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 09:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
== Ranking ==
{{Morghman| Okay, so get this! Originally, I thought Luxord was in charge after Saix, who Saix himself is in charge after Xemnas. But after playing Days, and noting how important Braig will be in Birth By Sleep, I'm starting to think Xigbar might be 3rd-in-command. Think about it, in KHII, Xigbar didn't really exhibit any leadership qualities. Then in Final Mix+, he kinda started showing he had some pull in the Organization. In Days, its definitely confirmed Xigbar has a higher ranking than the others. He is present in meetings between Xemnas and Saix, where he sort of gives advice to Xemnas, and even talks down to Saix, when Saix said he didn't see any problem with Xion. He's obviously powerful, as even Axel is surprised that he is struck down by Xion. Xigbar is also in charge of overseeing Roxas's growth, an important task needed for the Organization's goal. Even though Xigbar voices his spying on Xemnas going into the Room of Sleep, we've learned that even Saix and Xemnas are hiding things from each other. It has been confirmed who 2 of the 3 holograms Yen Sid shows Sora and company are Xemnas and Saix, and many believe the other hologram is Xigbar. This would show Yen Sid regards Xigbar in the same manner he does with Xemnas and Saix. Xigbar is also the last of the Organization, dying in The Castle That Never Was along with the other important members. Even as Braig, he shows his importance. Nomura has stated that Braig will have a more important role in Birth by Sleep than the other apprentices, second to only Xehanort. With all this evidence, I'd like permission to add this to the actual article, at least stating he has a more important role in the Organization than most members.}}


== First Appearance ==
== First Appearance ==
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== accent ==
== accent ==


{{Pokhmon|time=19:55, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=why would xigbar talk like a surfer? the only known beach is on destiny islands and xigbar probably has never been there }}
 
{{LapisScarab|time=20:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I can only assume that it's to emphasize Xigbar's easygoing, lax personality. I actually hate that comparison, for both the reason you brought up snd the fact that just being a surfer would not automatically make your voice like that. Tried to remove it once but it got reverted.}}
 
{{Pokhmon|berserk=20:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=i got rid of it }}
 
== Resemblance ==
 
Ok, I was looking through my Kingdom Heaets 358/2 Days strategy guide when I noticed something. With the pointy ears, yellow eyes, doesn't Xigbar seem to resemble Master Xehanort?IS that worth noting? [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 16:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=16:51, March 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Considering Braig had pointy ears and yellow eyes at the end of BBS, I'd say no.}}
 
      Yeah, but in titles after BBS he's aged and seems to look like Master Xehanort. Nomura even noted the resemblance in a recent interview.  http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 17:00, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
== ven or roxas ==
 
{{neumannz|time=17:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, first off, why do you think it's Roxas over Ven?}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=Please see [[User talk:Kingdom zachdawg|here]].}}
{{Xabryn|text=We're already discussing this on the IRC}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:35, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=In that case, I'd advise you to take a look at my message on Kingdom zachdawg's talk page too.}}
 
== In the article ==
 
It says something about drowning a goldfish, what does that mean? Isn't that sorta impossible? ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 23:00, June 18, 2010 (UTC))
{{Rucario|time=05:47, July 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Xigbar said something similar to 'Why do you always have to stare at me like I drowned your goldfish' to Ventus as Xion in Days. So yeah.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=06:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Fish filter oxygen from the water, so you can technically drown/suffocate them by putting them in an oxygen-deprived watersource, like the Dead Sea.}}
 
== KH2 Ven/Roxas Reference ==
 
{{Veroso|text= There's a scene in KH2 where he's talking to Sora and says "That's right. He used to give me that same exact look." His the "he" Ven or Roxas?}}
{{Chitalian8|time=03:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)|text= It's Ven.}}
 
Why not both?[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 16:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
{{ST|text=because he said "he", not "they"}}
 
Xigbar is a very deceitful individual. In his Secret Reports, he directly compares Roxas' face with Ven's and when he faces Xion asks why Ven 'always' looks at him like that, despite how he only actually met him once. It seems certain, to me at least, that "The look", is something that all four of them share when they encounter him. Some of the expressions on Roxas' face during some of the cutscenes in Days would lend credence to this, as well as the fact that I remember a statement on Nomura's part at the time of KH2's release that Xigbar meant Roxas.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.6.157|76.4.6.157]] 23:33, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 
== 2012 Special Trailer ==
 
Why would we assume that is not Braig?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 20:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Also, "and compares Sora's glare to Ventus's again." sounds pretty weak.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 22:12, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 
== DDD? ==
 
The credits credit Braig, not Xigbar. What proof do we have that Xigbar appears in the game at all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 
I think there was scan at KHInsider that showed Xigbar next to Xehanort. I would link it to you, but I haven't been able to get in at the site for some reason.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm going to guess that it's Braig in that scan, not Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 04:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
::No, it's defiantly Xigbar. I remember it. It was in a low quality scan, with Xigbar next to Xheanort. But I can't find it on KHInsider.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 
[http://kh13.com/zenphoto/articles/famitsu-weekly/march-22-2012/www.dotup.org2777464.jpg.php] here you go from KH13 though--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 
Oh, thanks, Xabryn-san! I didn't think of looking at KH13, probably because I'm used to going to KHInsider.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:That shows that Xigbar was in the scans. What proof do we have that he was ''in the game''?
::And by this, I mean "where do they call him Xigbar, not Braig?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:::I know this isn't good enough, but his track in the OST is called Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 22:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
The idea that Xigbar appears in DDD is patently false. Its Braig, not Xigbar. They look identical, but it is absolutely Braig. The same thing happens with Isa.
::Except that Young Xehanort straight up calls him Xigbar, and they explain that his heart was removed and replaced with a copy of Xehanort's. I don't see how any of the original Organization members can be anything but Nobody-Xehanort hybrids by now.
::If you have Ultimania sources, we would ''love'' to hear them. But right now we have the game giving them specific names and explaining why they pretty much have to be Xigbar and Saix, not Braig and Isa.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 17:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 
== Not Xigbar ==
The credits only list Braig. Xigbar isn't in 3D.
:...what? Did you not read the section above? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 00:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 
== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freisch%C3%BCtz Freischütz] ==
 
Perhaps it's a stretch, but can we draw any similarities for an orgin section? (or something else worth mentioning?) {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 08:07, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
:Xigbar's title is a direct reference to the legend, specifically in his ability to bend the trajectories of his bullets.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:26, 8 March 2016

Category[edit]

I do believe that Xigbar and the other members should go under Characters and Enemies. I mean, that's what they are. Human Characters is blatant, at the least; because then that opens up unneeded possibilities, such as Disney Characters. And with most of the characters being from Disney, there isn't much point there. As for enemies... Well, that's what they are. I know for somethings the Parent Category is bad. But for others it makes sense; if somebody is just browsing, I doubt they'd go to each sub-category. They'd just want to see who the enemies are, boss or no. I do hope I'm making sense; this is REALLY hard for me to explain. I have lost track of where it was taught to me, but...yeah. I'm for the Characters and Enemies categories (though I guess you could already tell that, 'cause I'm the one who slipped them in there). Woo.--Dreyfus 04:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Well, they should go for the subcategories if they're browsing, since they're the first on the category pages, before the entries. If they're looking for someone particular, they'll be easily categorized there, and if they're just browsing, the subcategory tree is actually designed for that in the Mediawiki software. I'm not opposed to doing things differently for its own sake, but organizations with far more wiki experience than us do it this way across a large variety of wikis.
  • Also, I was planning on making a Category:Disney Characters :(. It doesn't seem like any "child" categories would be a bad idea unless they had too few members, not too many.
  • And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages. Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains, on a similar subject.) Scottch 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Xigbar vs Ven (Xion)[edit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwk5zc71yg


one thing that bothered me about that: Xigbar got distracted upon seeing Xion as Ven, but his reaction to roxas' uncanny resemblance to Ven is not stated anywhere. (or maybe i just haven't encountered it -.-)--121.54.92.102 09:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Could someone tell me what he said at that moment, or in what day does it happen?

er, day 354, i think.

Nickname[edit]

Naminé (Live talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.gif
NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
Should I put something in Xigbar's page that his nickname is Xiggy? In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Demy called him that. They seem to be best friends, too. Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6U34vz5cNo&feature=channel here if you don't believe me.

That was rather surprising.--天下無双！！ 19:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)


Naminé (Live talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.gif
NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
Which part? When Demyx called Xigbar Xiggy, or that the game in out on YouTube in English, already. I found out this morning. It's great, isn't it?
Kairi-Org13.png
Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.<
TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah.
wow... i can imagine larxene doing that but demyx not really.
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SUPER SWORD-CHUCKS TALK HERE. — OK AS LEADER, I FORBID YOU FROM RP'ING WITH THEM.

11liu53.png ALSO, STOP DANCING. IT'S AWFUL. — 19:45, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
11liu53.png Mainly just Demyx calling Xigbar Xiggy and referring to Castle Oblivion as "C.O.".
Naminé (Live talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.gif
NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
Is that all? Xiggy have always been Xigbar's nickname. I just thought it was made up for the fans, but it turns out that it wasn't. I'm happy to know that Demyx's called him that.
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SUPER SWORD-CHUCKS TALK HERE. — OK AS LEADER, I FORBID YOU FROM RP'ING WITH THEM.

11liu53.png ALSO, STOP DANCING. IT'S AWFUL. — 01:23, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
11liu53.png Sure, I thought Xiggy was Xigbar's nickname, but never thought it'd come up in a conversation.
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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.


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Pokhmon - I'm so FLATTERED!
TALK - But you're TOO LATE! — 19:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
i think its just demyx that calles xigbar xiggy

Days Fight[edit]

I was just wondering if we should make a small mention on the Xigbar enemy page about the battle in Days at the Coliseum ? i realise its a trivial battle and not that important but i do feel it sould atleast have a little mention/strategy. What do you people think ? Ximodnic 01:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

"Ill Will"?[edit]

Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.LapisScarab 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

That's fine with me.--NinjaSheik 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - EternalNothingnessXIII 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

How about if just the "Some have wondered" sentence is removed? That's really what's bugging me the most. It's just too speculative. We have no way of knowing if that is the reason Xigbar isn't given a lot of authority. But you're right about the rest of the section and after looking it over, it does fit. LapisScarab 04:13, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. REMOVE all speculation. - EternalNothingnessXIII 09:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

First Appearance[edit]

Shouldn't Xigbar's first chronological appearance be in KHII Final Mix? Since he mentions looking for new recruits, and all 13 members are present in KH Days, then that surely comes before.


Samoth 13:41, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

That is not at all how that entry works.Glorious CHAOS! 19:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

accent[edit]

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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png I can only assume that it's to emphasize Xigbar's easygoing, lax personality. I actually hate that comparison, for both the reason you brought up snd the fact that just being a surfer would not automatically make your voice like that. Tried to remove it once but it got reverted.


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Pokhmon - I'm so FLATTERED!
TALK - But you're TOO LATE! — {{{time}}}
i got rid of it

Resemblance[edit]

Ok, I was looking through my Kingdom Heaets 358/2 Days strategy guide when I noticed something. With the pointy ears, yellow eyes, doesn't Xigbar seem to resemble Master Xehanort?IS that worth noting? Vaddie 16:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 16:51, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
Considering Braig had pointy ears and yellow eyes at the end of BBS, I'd say no. 
     Yeah, but in titles after BBS he's aged and seems to look like Master Xehanort. Nomura even noted the resemblance in a recent interview.  http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html Vaddie 17:00, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

ven or roxas[edit]

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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 17:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
Well, first off, why do you think it's Roxas over Ven?
Xemnas
Infinity KHD.png Please see here.
LapisScarab Xemnas (card).png Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 17:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
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Xabryn - Golden Star Charm.pngI don't care if you're real!You're not better!
TALK - Mobile rikurep.pngIt's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}}
Heartless Emblem.pngWe're already discussing this on the IRC
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LapisScarab Xemnas (card).png Embrace... nothing! — 17:35, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
Xemnas's Replica Data KHIIFM.png In that case, I'd advise you to take a look at my message on Kingdom zachdawg's talk page too.

In the article[edit]

It says something about drowning a goldfish, what does that mean? Isn't that sorta impossible? (Bananaphone1996 23:00, June 18, 2010 (UTC))

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Rucario - So I see.......
TALK - No, you don't. — 05:47, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Xigbar said something similar to 'Why do you always have to stare at me like I drowned your goldfish' to Ventus as Xion in Days. So yeah.
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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png Fish filter oxygen from the water, so you can technically drown/suffocate them by putting them in an oxygen-deprived watersource, like the Dead Sea.

KH2 Ven/Roxas Reference[edit]

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Veroso - The shadows are coming!
TALK - Are you prepared for the worst?
There's a scene in KH2 where he's talking to Sora and says "That's right. He used to give me that same exact look." His the "he" Ven or Roxas?
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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves.

Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 03:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
20px-Pin_000.png It's Ven.

Why not both?204.211.185.107 16:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)


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ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person
TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Vanitas Sprite KHBBS.pngbecause he said "he", not "they"


Xigbar is a very deceitful individual. In his Secret Reports, he directly compares Roxas' face with Ven's and when he faces Xion asks why Ven 'always' looks at him like that, despite how he only actually met him once. It seems certain, to me at least, that "The look", is something that all four of them share when they encounter him. Some of the expressions on Roxas' face during some of the cutscenes in Days would lend credence to this, as well as the fact that I remember a statement on Nomura's part at the time of KH2's release that Xigbar meant Roxas.76.4.6.157 23:33, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

2012 Special Trailer[edit]

Why would we assume that is not Braig?192.249.47.177 20:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, "and compares Sora's glare to Ventus's again." sounds pretty weak.192.249.47.177 22:12, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

DDD?[edit]

The credits credit Braig, not Xigbar. What proof do we have that Xigbar appears in the game at all?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I think there was scan at KHInsider that showed Xigbar next to Xehanort. I would link it to you, but I haven't been able to get in at the site for some reason.--NinjaSheik 04:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to guess that it's Braig in that scan, not Xigbar. Chitalian8 04:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
No, it's defiantly Xigbar. I remember it. It was in a low quality scan, with Xigbar next to Xheanort. But I can't find it on KHInsider.--NinjaSheik 19:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

[1] here you go from KH13 though--Xabryn 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks, Xabryn-san! I didn't think of looking at KH13, probably because I'm used to going to KHInsider.--NinjaSheik 21:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

That shows that Xigbar was in the scans. What proof do we have that he was in the game?
And by this, I mean "where do they call him Xigbar, not Braig?"192.249.47.177 21:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I know this isn't good enough, but his track in the OST is called Xigbar. Chitalian8 22:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

The idea that Xigbar appears in DDD is patently false. Its Braig, not Xigbar. They look identical, but it is absolutely Braig. The same thing happens with Isa.

Except that Young Xehanort straight up calls him Xigbar, and they explain that his heart was removed and replaced with a copy of Xehanort's. I don't see how any of the original Organization members can be anything but Nobody-Xehanort hybrids by now.
If you have Ultimania sources, we would love to hear them. But right now we have the game giving them specific names and explaining why they pretty much have to be Xigbar and Saix, not Braig and Isa.192.249.47.177 17:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Not Xigbar[edit]

The credits only list Braig. Xigbar isn't in 3D.

...what? Did you not read the section above? maggosh 00:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Freischütz[edit]

Perhaps it's a stretch, but can we draw any similarities for an orgin section? (or something else worth mentioning?) Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 08:07, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Xigbar's title is a direct reference to the legend, specifically in his ability to bend the trajectories of his bullets."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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