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https://discordapp.com/channels/272088543478677516/272088543478677516 I just made a Discord Channel for the KHWiki considering the IRC channel is mostly inactive and that this might be a suitable replacement. 19:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I....don't know if this'll work out. I mean, you have to make an account for it. IRC, on the other hand, was literally just click on the link and type in a username. And even that was too difficult for some people. I whipped up an account, but I'm not seeing anyone in here. --Ignis (talk) 22:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Well discord allows you to change your text and have voice and video conversations. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 23:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Like I said, this is highly unlikely to work. But if you're content to try it out, then why don't you put up a front-page notice. It's definitely not going to work if this forum thread is the only place people will see of it. --Ignis (talk) 00:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

It will work. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 00:09, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I can't guarantee it will get every user on, but good on you for the initiative."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 16:41, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

I wonder about the uses it has to offer. However, as Ignis pointed out, I'm not too sure/fond of the whole extra account idea.. I dunno. Call me old, but I'm still a fan of the IRC. Xion4ever 03:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Have you seen the channel? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 03:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Well, I got dragged into this first, so I might as well pitch in. I'm in agreement with Xion-chan. I honestly don't see the benefit of having a Discord Channel for the KHWiki when we have a fully operational IRC channel of our own. I think having the IRC is better for the wiki. I said this on my talk page, but I'll post it here, as well:

A.) For the IRC, you don't even need an account to sign into it. Even users don't have an official account on the KHWiki are able to sign into it. The Discord Channel forces users who want to use to make an account to use it.

B.) As it's on-site, you don't have to leave the wiki to go to a different site just to talk to other users.

C.) The Discord Channel allows users to change their text, but I think that's one of the down sides of it. IRC channels are typically disabled from other wikias because how much they are abused by users. Changing text when a conversation gets out of hand can eliminate evidence of a user's wrongdoings. Our IRC doesn't, which preserves all evidence of a user's misbehavior as long as someone screencaps it.

Hypothetically speaking, if the KHWiki were to do come to an agreement about using the Discord Channel, there's also the matter of assigning mods to watch over the channel. We also need to consider the possibility that if the KHWiki agrees to use the Discord Channel, then what will happen to the IRC? Should we get rid it? And what about the users who don't want to create an extra account to just to talk to users that we are perfectly capable of talking to on our on-site IRC, like Xion-chan and myself?--NinjaSheik 23:26, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Can you at least try it out first? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 23:43, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

One thing I do prefer about discord is that it preserves the conversation indefinitely -- it's not wiped nightly, so you can get missed messages -- and that you can set it up to give notifications on your phone."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm neutral on this decision, but I just want to say that not needing an account for the IRC can also be a disadvantage, since every random person can log in with your username. TheSilentHero 18:46, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

The IRC has been around for so long that we've figured out how to deal with nearly every type of attack (courtesy of sove). The reason for the IRC's inactivity is not the platform, it's because of the general inactivity of the community. Changing to a new platform probably will not change that and runs the risk of alienating older members and splitting the community chat into two different channels. That said, the Discord channel may surprise us and interest new users so I'm not against a trial. (TheFifteenthMember) 81.104.143.27 18:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

I use Discord a lot, but I can see why people would be against it and in favor of the IRC, personally, I think both ways are okay, but if one sits unused for long, it's best to nip it in the bud as early as possible. You have wormed your way to the very nadir of repugnance. - Erry 03:22, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Can you visit the channel anytime soon? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 03:31, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Is anyone going to test it out soon? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC) https://discord.gg/sBGeUGt This link might be more accessable. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 01:40, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm currently working on my sandbox if anyone is interested in assisting on making modifications please let me know. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 19:09, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

I have tried the Discord Channel and I don't see a reason why we shouldn't use it. Sure, we already have the IRC, but Discord seems to be pretty popular, and the IRC seems a little out-dated compared to it. I'm not saying we should abandon the IRC channel, but we can simply have both. Some people will prefer the IRC and some the Discord, and maybe some will check both. That's why I suggested to Byzantinefire to create a draft of a KHWiki:Chat page (to replace KHWiki:IRC) and cover both channels. (Here's the draft.) Does anyone have any objections to this? TheSilentHero 19:30, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Who will act as the operators on the Discord Channel? The IRC has several operators, but most are inactive. Make sure to appoint users on the channel if you're planning to implement it, per the wikia's rules.--NinjaSheik 22:05, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Well since i founded the channel and have already got all the rights i would be a Operator and i also gave TSH power as well and that would make 2. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 22:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

So... any ideas what the KHWiki staff is going to do with this channel? Pretty much dead after Byzantinefire got himself banned last July. --Doggieboy9 (talk) 00:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, then... If an admin says I can, I can post a invite to a new server for the KHWiki. If that's allowed of course --Doggieboy9 (talk) 13:33, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

I think we should wait with that for a while. As was said in the other discussion, there's no use for two half-dead chat rooms. And if we do decide to get a new discord channel in the future, it would be better to let it be created by a staff member, so we don't have situations like this anymore. TheSilentHero 13:44, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

That's a good idea, I'll be deleting the server now --Doggieboy9 (talk) 13:50, 17 August 2017 (UTC)