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{{KrytenKoro|Right now we're dealing with stuff like "Sora (KHIIFM) KHHD". I've raised this topic before, and I'm not sure we've come to a solid decision yet -- I don't see the benefit to the wiki in treating the HD ports as if they were separate games with separate parsers. It confuses the image naming system, causes us to have multiple images for the same thing, and is totally unnecessary when all they are is higher quality images of the same subject. Can we please come to a final decision on this?}} | {{KrytenKoro|Right now we're dealing with stuff like "Sora (KHIIFM) KHHD". I've raised this topic before, and I'm not sure we've come to a solid decision yet -- I don't see the benefit to the wiki in treating the HD ports as if they were separate games with separate parsers. It confuses the image naming system, causes us to have multiple images for the same thing, and is totally unnecessary when all they are is higher quality images of the same subject. Can we please come to a final decision on this?}} | ||
:I say yes. I vote we eliminate and replace everything from the PS2/PSP versions for HD versions, and just rename them as-is. We really don't to keep lower res images for which we already uploaded the HD versions. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 20:53, 26 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
::This would only apply to images that have HD versions, correct? I agree there is no reason to keep an image from a game's original version if it was released in better quality as part of an HD remake. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 05:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
:::Correct. Though, the jury's still out on 1.5 and 2.8. At least until Shard comes back. So we'll have to keep everything from those as is for now. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 06:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
::::Clarification: As Shard has had to remind me multiple times because I keep forgetting, the "HD" in "KHDDDHD" actually ''is'' treated as an FM/Re-type modifier. That one should be kept, although I personally support shifting KH3D images to KHDDDHD images.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
:::::I agree with removing the KHHD part, and uploading HD images over the old ones. However, regarding KH3D, we should keep the new content, like Catanuki, as KH3DHD (or KHDDDHD), like we do with Final Mixes. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
Since no one has made any objections to this, I'm going to go ahead and upload all HD images over the old ones. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:44, 22 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
{{Xion4ever|time=02:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC)|text=Reopening for the sake of my own clarification and for others working on [[Forum:Image Renovation]]. Example: Two images of the same content/scene exist. There may be minor differences, say, the addition of subtitles or a slight pose change, but not enough to merit a separate image. (Example: [[:File:Mission 89 01 KHD.png]]). In such a case, we are uploading over the original/lower quality versions in exchange for the higher quality HD images. Correct? | |||
Then, regarding FM/Re types, they should be uploaded and treated as separate entities. Meaning, do not upload the higher quality FM/Re images [KHFM, KH Re:COM, KH Re:coded] over the original lower quality images [KH, KH COM, KH coded]. This is now applied to KH3D- both DS and HD remake versions. Correct? | |||
Regarding the naming system for KH3D...We have been using KH3D and KH3DHD. The proposal has been to switch to KHDDD and KHDDDHD. To me, I'm down for whatever you guys decide. KH3D is less typing, but that's a petty "reason." Regardless of what we decide, now is the time to decide since we're restarting the image renovation project. | |||
If we are in agreement, I will update the image renovation forum with these guidelines.}} | |||
{{TheSilentHero|time=18:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC)|zex=HD images should indeed be uploaded over the lower quality ones. The [[Template:HD]] template can be used to show the original image in the summary. | |||
For Final Mixed and Remakes, it can be uploaded over the regular game's one, as long as it doesn't have anything exclusive to the Final Mix/Remake in it. For KH3DHD, it is actually a remake instead of just an HD port, so the same applies there. | |||
I believe the official site of KH uses the abbreviations KH3D and KH3DHD, and that's why we're using those (even though KH3DHD doesn't actually have a 3 in the title).}} | |||
Just for argument's sake, I believe I recall SE trying to use the 3D as reference to the subtitle ''Dream Drop Distance'' and not to the 3D visual aspects of the game. Something like Nomura saying it should be either ''Kingdom Hearts 3D'' or ''Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance''. Although you then have to wonder why they chose to drop it in the HD title. In any case, I prefer Tue shorter KH3D over KHDDD. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 19:38, 29 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
:Completely misread the whole final mix/remake issue. My bad. >_< Thanks for clarifying. So, where majority stands, we're down for keeping KH3D and KH3DHD. It's going to be a little while before we get to the DDD images anyways...If we lean towards KHDDD and KHDDDHD we can always change things later. {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 01:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC) |
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- I say yes. I vote we eliminate and replace everything from the PS2/PSP versions for HD versions, and just rename them as-is. We really don't to keep lower res images for which we already uploaded the HD versions. --Ignis (talk) 20:53, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- This would only apply to images that have HD versions, correct? I agree there is no reason to keep an image from a game's original version if it was released in better quality as part of an HD remake. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 05:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Correct. Though, the jury's still out on 1.5 and 2.8. At least until Shard comes back. So we'll have to keep everything from those as is for now. --Ignis (talk) 06:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Clarification: As Shard has had to remind me multiple times because I keep forgetting, the "HD" in "KHDDDHD" actually is treated as an FM/Re-type modifier. That one should be kept, although I personally support shifting KH3D images to KHDDDHD images."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Correct. Though, the jury's still out on 1.5 and 2.8. At least until Shard comes back. So we'll have to keep everything from those as is for now. --Ignis (talk) 06:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- This would only apply to images that have HD versions, correct? I agree there is no reason to keep an image from a game's original version if it was released in better quality as part of an HD remake. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 05:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Since no one has made any objections to this, I'm going to go ahead and upload all HD images over the old ones. TheSilentHero 16:44, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
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Just for argument's sake, I believe I recall SE trying to use the 3D as reference to the subtitle Dream Drop Distance and not to the 3D visual aspects of the game. Something like Nomura saying it should be either Kingdom Hearts 3D or Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. Although you then have to wonder why they chose to drop it in the HD title. In any case, I prefer Tue shorter KH3D over KHDDD. KeybladeSpyMaster 19:38, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- Completely misread the whole final mix/remake issue. My bad. >_< Thanks for clarifying. So, where majority stands, we're down for keeping KH3D and KH3DHD. It's going to be a little while before we get to the DDD images anyways...If we lean towards KHDDD and KHDDDHD we can always change things later. Xion4ever 01:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC)