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:I'm for original name also, since I think that was the policy. If you change the name Xion, I can deal with the redirects [[User:Chainoffire|Chainoffire]] ([[User talk:Chainoffire|talk]]) 03:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
:I'm for original name also, since I think that was the policy. If you change the name Xion, I can deal with the redirects [[User:Chainoffire|Chainoffire]] ([[User talk:Chainoffire|talk]]) 03:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
::Wait a minute. This is meant to be a redirect to [[Beast#Abilities|Beast's abilities]]. The other names links to that section as well. This means this page should actually be reverted to what Kryten had.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 03:08, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
::Wait a minute. This is meant to be a redirect to [[Beast#Abilities|Beast's abilities]]. The other names links to that section as well. This means this page should actually be reverted to what Kryten had.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 03:08, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
:But this is also a sleight, does that mean that this is ment only for the sleight? [[User:Chainoffire|Chainoffire]] ([[User talk:Chainoffire|talk]]) 03:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Fail on my part. This is meant to be its own article. This and the KH one [Furious Bellow]. However, they might be wanting a "complete" article detailing the KH, COM, and KHII version- such as on the MP Rage/Lucky Strike page. Should that article be created, then we mention the name differences such as on the MP Rage page. Then, the redirects would link to the one article, instead of the one Beast's article. Truth be told, before we start playing with redirects and article creation, we need a second opinion- Neumannz, Kryten.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 03:14, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
:Sorry, I tend to get ahead of myself ^.^' [[User:Chainoffire|Chainoffire]] ([[User talk:Chainoffire|talk]]) 03:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=06:58, 21 March 2014 (UTC)|bdave=Okay, here's the dilly-o, as I understand it.
There are two attacks here: the one from KH and KH2 (which have two different English names), and the sleight. The two have different effects (please compare [[Abilities (KH)]] and [[Abilities (KHII)]] with [[Sleight]]). So there should be two articles.
On a directly related note, I believe our hope is to eventually have articles for every ability, including the character abilities. However, Furious Volley being a sleight, it should have an article regardless of that plan.
Finally, regarding the name for Furious Bellow/Furious Shout: our policy ''for the most part'' is to use the most-used name (which is why MP Rage and Lucky Strike are where they are). (In fact, we probably should move "Guard" to "Block" in accordance to that policy.) Since this attack has only appeared twice, with two different names, it's questionable. I would judge it better to have it at "Furious Bellow", because it's both the English KH name and the Japanese name for both, but I could understand having it at the most recent name.
Thoughts?
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Should the name be changed on this page? it's original name from Kingdom Hearts is Furious Bellow, and it was changed in Re:Chain of memories as Furious Volley, and KHII as Furious Shout. But it's all the same attack. Chainoffire (talk) 13:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

We should either stick with the original name (from KH) or the latest name (from KHII); what's our current policy on this? Also, what do the Japanese names say? TheFifteenthMember 17:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I say original name, redirects for other names from other games. While I can't remember an exact policy, these two articles prove the original name idea.--Xion4ever 19:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm for original name also, since I think that was the policy. If you change the name Xion, I can deal with the redirects Chainoffire (talk) 03:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Wait a minute. This is meant to be a redirect to Beast's abilities. The other names links to that section as well. This means this page should actually be reverted to what Kryten had.--Xion4ever 03:08, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
But this is also a sleight, does that mean that this is ment only for the sleight? Chainoffire (talk) 03:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Fail on my part. This is meant to be its own article. This and the KH one [Furious Bellow]. However, they might be wanting a "complete" article detailing the KH, COM, and KHII version- such as on the MP Rage/Lucky Strike page. Should that article be created, then we mention the name differences such as on the MP Rage page. Then, the redirects would link to the one article, instead of the one Beast's article. Truth be told, before we start playing with redirects and article creation, we need a second opinion- Neumannz, Kryten.--Xion4ever 03:14, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I tend to get ahead of myself ^.^' Chainoffire (talk) 03:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


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Okay, here's the dilly-o, as I understand it.

There are two attacks here: the one from KH and KH2 (which have two different English names), and the sleight. The two have different effects (please compare Abilities (KH) and Abilities (KHII) with Sleight). So there should be two articles.

On a directly related note, I believe our hope is to eventually have articles for every ability, including the character abilities. However, Furious Volley being a sleight, it should have an article regardless of that plan.

Finally, regarding the name for Furious Bellow/Furious Shout: our policy for the most part is to use the most-used name (which is why MP Rage and Lucky Strike are where they are). (In fact, we probably should move "Guard" to "Block" in accordance to that policy.) Since this attack has only appeared twice, with two different names, it's questionable. I would judge it better to have it at "Furious Bellow", because it's both the English KH name and the Japanese name for both, but I could understand having it at the most recent name.

Thoughts?