Talk:Kingdom Hearts χ

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Icon has been uploaded: File:KHCHI Icon.png It's not being terribly cooperative though. Fix please. 199.188.206.185 06:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Page also needs to be moved since the title is official. 199.188.206.185 06:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Done, but the article name isn't, and can never be completely correct due to technical limitations. --Sove 07:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

~_~ { ... *sigh* ) --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 07:42, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that does suck. But it's the best you can do. Blame Squenix for managing to complicate a single letter. 199.167.133.26 07:51, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Sign on to your goddamn account, Webber. maggosh 08:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok. How bout you go fuck yourself? Better idea? I think it is - it's a swell idea. Since you assholes IP banned me because I hurt your feelings, logging in is a pain in the ass considering I have to IP hop every time. 199.167.133.23 08:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh boy, this is just like last time. Why can't you two play along nicely? ShardofTruth 11:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Good lord, I ALREADY MOVED THE PAGE. Stop making a federal case out of every little thing, guys.

@Sove, the [chi] is for pronunciation only, it's not part of the title. Like [duodecim]. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 13:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I was not able to use χ either, but apparently it was caused by TitleBlacklist.--Sove 13:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Weird. I just cut and pasted it. Anyway, the important thing is that it's fixed. --72.66.110.50 19:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Alice?

Alice from Alice in Wonderland, who has already appeared in the KH1, has been confirmed for this game? Is this just a mere cameo? Because I find it hard to swallow that a girl as young as her would appear as an actual character in a game that supposedly occurs during the Keyblade War, which was like... what... centuries eariler? Blackchaos27 (talk) 07:34, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

We always have to take pre-release screenshots with a grain of salt, maybe it's just a mockup shot to introduce the game's direction, maybe this scene will be cut from the final game, there are many possibilites. If the game is canon is also a bit ambiguous, maybe this is not the Alice from KH but another representation of her (data, dream, replica, you name it) or she really is a undead god ruling from beyond time and space through this tiny avatar. ShardofTruth 10:34, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I wouldn't question her appearance. Minnie and Mickey remained the same in the 10/11/12 years since Birth by Sleep to KH3D/KH2... as did Yen Sid, Stitch and so on and so forth. The only people who actually do age at all in the game are original characters and Final Fantasy characters. At least, according to what the Ultimania and other sources say. Even Huey, Dewey and Louie have stayed remained children and haven't aged into adults over the course of the games... so yeah, again, I wouldn't question Disney characters aging. Erry 15:54, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Also, this IS a game so not everything will be realistic. For example, for all the time Sora goes off on adventures, he never thinks about his MOTHER. TheFifteenthMember 15:59, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

@Erry - Anthropomorphic animals like Mickey and the others, I understand. Powerful sorcerers, like Yen Sid and Merlin, not surprising since those types of characters tend to have a very long lifespans. I'm only iffy because she's only human. That and I doubt ANY of the characters alive today were alive back then, otherwise I'd think Mickey would've remembered what happened back then. Also an issue concerning the seven princesses; if this occurs before the χ-blade was shattered, then the Princesses of Heart didn't exist yet.

However, seeing as this game is still in early development and there's really not much info at this point, and there have been a few unrealistic moments, I won't question it any further. Blackchaos27 (talk) 00:16, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Remember the second trip to Traverse Town in DDD, people. Time works differently in different worlds. Plus I believe that everyone from Disney Town is immortal. And as the events of the game take place before there were seven hearts of pure light, the fact that Alice is in this game is... confusing.

Also, it is impossible for this game to take place 2 - 4 years before the events of BbS. If the princesses were immortal, then Kairi would still be four years old in DDD. Let's just hope that we get more information soon... UxieLover1994 06:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Time works differently in different worlds. That may be. But even so I doubt a second in one world could be a year in another.

We're still not sure exactly when the seven fragments became hearts, and there's still the possibility of those lights actually being passed down from generation to generation. But as stated above this is still in it's early development and for all we know that screenshot (which I've never seen) could just be a mockup that could get removed from the game (it's been done before). Blackchaos27 (talk) 08:08, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

But it's the era of the keyblade war, if we believe Kairi's grandma, there should be only one world and one time. ShardofTruth 10:43, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

This could be before Alice's time in Wonderland in which case she stopped aging when she got there, not hard to believe as time works differently there. Darth Riku (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

KH13

We really need to not be using fansites as sources, even if they're accurate. Track the info down to a primary or journal source."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 04:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Open Beta

So the open beta started today (it's scheduled to end at August 1st) and anyone with a Yahoo! Japan ID can access it. Because the game is not canon (it's not the real keyblade war, just a retelling with much artistic freedom) how do we handle it here? There are some unique elements like new keyblades, new characters (e.g. Chirishii), new synthesis materials, even new locations like "Daybreak Town". And of course there are the cards which are more like the TGS game than the Chain of Memories variant. ShardofTruth 09:43, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

We should handle it the same way we do the manga, I guess. Separate story sections, but it is canon to itself."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay then, because an English translation seems to not in development at the moment the most important articles would be Daybreak Town (デイブレイクタウン, Deibureiku Taun), Chirishii (チリシィ), Foreteller (予知者, Yochi sha), the Unions (ユニオン, Yunion) and the new Heartless (Achoo Mole, Flower Rider and Jewelry Bag) I have yet to find the kanji for. ShardofTruth

Achoo Mole (アチューモール), Flower Rider (フラワーライダー) & Jewelry Bag (ジュエリーバッグ) ;) Lady Junky (talk) 10:55, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks:) ShardofTruth 11:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome :) But, I have a question: are you sure it is the Divine Rose in KH chi? Because it is really different :/ Lady Junky (talk) 11:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Im pretty sure it is. I think that these keyblades can be upgraded (getting the glas colored on the hilt, the rose bloom etc.) to eventually match their KH counterparts, at least that's what the file names suggest and I can vagualy remember that I also read this somewhere. But at least for now only these images can be found in the game files, this will probably change once the beta is finished and the real game begins. ShardofTruth 11:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok :) Sooooo... Any sign of Stroke of Midnight? xD You are doing a good job :) I hope you will find other elements :) ^^ Lady Junky (talk) 11:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

At least for now there is no evidence that the Castle of Dreams will be part of the game, although I also think we can expect to see it in the future. The real question is who the sevenths princess will be. Maybe grandma will includes Kairi in the story too but it would seem a bit strange to do so. ShardofTruth 11:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes :) Lady Junky (talk) 11:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

A new heartless: Wabble Tiptoe (ワッブルチップトウ). You can see it here ^^ Lady Junky (talk) 19:40, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

But wait, there is more (at least according to the game files): ShardofTruth 21:31, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Oo FANTASTIC! Do you have their names (of the news one of course :P) Lady Junky (talk) 21:34, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Sadly I don't, I've yet to find a way to access the game's text directly. ShardofTruth 21:45, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok :) Good luck :D Lady Junky (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Card list

Should there be a page with a list of the cards included in the game (name, rarity, off/def power, etc?) or is that unnecessary since it's just sort of a social game? --Wind Prism (talk) 07:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we should definite have such a list, but I'm not sure where to begin at the moment, probably the shown characters. Each cards is coded with an 8-byte string in the game, that's quite a lot. Maybe that's just the crushed name of the card but I think these refer to the different attributes instead. ShardofTruth 10:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Separate world pages/mission descriptions?

Do you guys think we should add separate Subsections for the Chi versions of the worlds? Maybe add some details/pages for the quests like we have for the 358/2 missions? GiroZX (talk) 02:35, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Why would we need separate subsections for each world? Shouldn't they just be covered as a secondary canon for each world, as we're doing with the manga?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:24, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

We'll need to use the world's game: pages, methinks. TheFifteenthMember 15:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Canonical?

Sorry for the question, but this game is canonical? Because i see the wiki give to him a lot of importance, but I don't understend why if is only a "game no-canon" because Alice, Aladdin and others appear here, but chronologicaly this one must be centuries later of BbS and ALice have 11 years old in KH1 so in BbS she must have 1 year old, so why she appear in this game? Same thing for Emblem Heartless, they are created after BbS, can somebody explain to me?--93.150.128.115 14:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

The goal of the wiki is to cover all official KH stuff regardless its canon status, that's why the mangas, novels, trading card games, facebook games and all games SquareEnix released can be found here. Among them mobile and [chi] are not canon, but feature enough unique content to have their own pages. [chi] is a bit special though as Nomura confirmed that there will be connection to KHIII, probably meaning that some elements introduced in [chi] (Chirishii, the Fortellers, Daybreak Town, Lux, you name them) will also play a role in this upcoming game, even if the connecting story will differ from [chi]'s. So as you can see, it's a bit complicated and not everything has been worked out by this point. At the moment there seems to be no real guidline how to incoperate elements of [chi], like the new Heartless, in some articles but often there is a seperation line or tags that indicate which game there are from, so you can decide yourself what to make of it. --77.185.115.1 15:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok thank you^^ I hope to she the new Characters, worlds and Heartless in KH3 (specialy the new Heartless, I love struggle versus new enemies :) )--93.150.128.115 15:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Bringing this up again

So, I think this is KHX is going to become a proper, canon entry to the series. From their latest KHX news update, they mentioned (translated into English): "A Serious Story Begins!!" and "In this KINGDOM HEARTS, everything is connected to the main storyline. To all fans that have been playing the series, do not overlook this expansion in the story and please look forward to it.". That gives me reason to believe that KHX has been changed into a canon entry to the series, since they specifically said to not overlook the story. What do you guys think? TheFifteenthMember 22:00, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a passage written in the Foretellers’ Script. It is an important fact that leads to KINGDOM HEARTS III.

Well shit, that enough holds enough water, let alone Nomura flat out saying "everything is connected to the main storyline." maggosh 23:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, just that doesn't make sure that the whole story itself is part of the main storyline, just that something in that script is important.It doesn't say that everything that happens in each wolrds individual storyline is canon. Although, that IS possible, since as Riku tells to Joshua in KH3D, "time flows different in any two worlds". So it is possible that Aladdin, Alice and the others didn't aged all those years after the war, and reamined almost the same during Sora's story. EDIT: Also, about the Keyblades, Shard once said that maybe after upgrading them, they would look like the ones from the other games. The new info said that (later, not yet) something would happen when you upgraded a keyblade to the maximum. Maybe that's it. - MateusinhoEX 19:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, changing the numbers of the icons similar to how we do with the cards, I found new Heartlles. Don't know if they already appeared, because I didn't played in the Halloween.

MateusinhoEX 19:12, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

It just won't die off...

So, it seems to me that rather than the whole game being canon, it might just be that part of the Foreteller's story that connects to Kingdom Hearts III. In determining canonocity (is that even a word?) you have to also see it from a real-world perspective. The nature of Kingdom Hearts games is to include Disney worlds. A game like Kingdom Hearts χ wouldn't have included new ones, they were going to have to use previously appearing worlds. Since it wasn't going to cost anything, even though it would be a cool game, they wouldn't mwke a big deal out of it, and so they didn t introduce new worlds (except for Daybreak Town) and they used a loose story. A story in which the basic concept was canon and well known, and the details wouldn't need to be. Parts of Kingdom Hearts χ are canon, things like this Foretellers story and general events leading up to the Keyblade War. Other parts, like the inclusion of Alice, Aladdin, and Snow White, aren't, and were added because of the Disney element that makes Kingdom Hearts games what they are. That's my understanding, seeing Tetsuya Nomura mentinoed the connection again last week. KeybladeSpyMaster 00:01, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

It's actually pretty clever if you think about it. There will probably never a game about the real events of the keyblade war, simply because the setting would be completely different, almost non-Disney like, it would also be a rather brutal event and even more importantly the mystery of these ancient times would be gone too. So it's made into a children's story that even allows some online play. Now SE can take all elements they think are defining Kingdom Hearts (Heartless, Disney worlds and characters etc.) and mix in new ones and later Nomura decides which of the (at the moment thin) stories and concepts should be kept and which should be forgotten. All elements that are canon will probably be repeated or summarized when KHIII arrives so there is really no need to differentiate at this point.

By the way, all story segments are translated on KHInsider since last week, so everyone can catch up. ShardofTruth 01:54, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I think if they do make a game based on the events leading up to and including the Keyblade War, it will be a full game, with a cost on an actual game console with new Disney characters and worlds and having set protagonists, like Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. So, I guess what I'm saying is, there's little that's canon about Kingdom Hearts χ, there's nothing huge I think will happen with the whole time difference mentioned in Kingdom Hearts 3D (and if it does, it's not going to explain anything here}, and there might be a chance we will play it here, but it won't be a huge deal story-wise.KeybladeSpyMaster 02:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Finally!

This is is. The only canon (currently) thing in this entire game. I know, we're not supposed to use KHInsider, but I thought it should be here now. So, here it is.

Chirithy:

You've really shaped up as a Keyblade Wielder, haven't you.

Uh-huh, you're looking really fine, too!

I think it's time to tell you, then.

Before my master, He who created me, disappeared,

He bestowed His six followers with new names, and gave five of them a tome of prophecy.

These five followers, who were to become the Foretellers, read the future written in the tome.

Apparently a passage written on the last page shocked them.

"The war in that place will lead to the defeat and destruction of the Light.
The World will be enveloped in eternal Darkness."

In order to save the future World, the five Foretellers thought to use the power hidden in the tome of prophecy.

That's the power you are all using now.

Through the cards, you are using the power of the future to try and protect the light from the darkness, and avert the future enveloped in darkness.

Also, as you know, even though the five Foretellers share the same goal, they by no means share the same will.

So, you mustn't lose sight of it yourself.

Connection Between Kingdom Hearts III and Kingdom Hearts χ - Kingdom Hearts Insider KeybladeSpyMaster 08:05, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if it has been said, but I think that even the individual/world storylines could be now considered as canonical since the Fortellers explain the cards allow to use "the power of the future", which would allow the players to travel through time, and therefore be able to meet characters who shoudn't exist in that time of the chronology.Sora1954 (talk) 00:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I think that's not what the game was refering to, because until this point time travel wasn't even mentioned in KH [chi]. "The power of the future" thing is basically a neat explanation why the cards almost only show popular Kingdom Hearts characters from the previous games. ShardofTruth 19:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Events coverage

So, should we have a page/section that cover the special events that been going on in the game (Christmas, New Year, etc)? Either in the Development section or a new article itself (List of Kingdom Hearts χ events or something like that). And that it list what items you get during the special events or the Heartless that appear during then. I don't play the game, so I have no idea if the enemies, cloths, etc that appears are permanent or event-only. UnknownCheisā ^{—— Marika is Best Girl (◕‿◕✿)} 23:54, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

We should definitely have coverage. Is there enough material to warrant a full article? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 03:28, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

If I may, I would look here. Shard has done a pretty good job with the translations and stuff. I think he might be the only one on the wiki doing this for us. You guys can decide if there is enough info there to make a full article, I'm not sure about it yet. I'd imagine, however, that if more info was needed, Shard would be the one to go to. KeybladeSpyMaster 05:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't even know we already had a list of events. So there probably is enough material to cover a article. Once we figure out what actually happens during the events. UnknownCheisā ^{—— Marika is Best Girl (◕‿◕✿)} 20:12, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, some of them seem self-explanatory. For example, the Halloween Event (2013) obviously consisted of the Halloween-themed Heartless and made available all the Halloween-themed clothes (all of which are displayed on that same page, or the Player page. But other events, such as White Day, are far less self-explanatory (what could White Day even mean?). Again, I would recommend asking Shard about the exact details. In the meantime, if you guys don't mind, I will try and write up a draft. KeybladeSpyMaster 21:26, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: I know it's off-topic, but does anyone know how to stop the timestamp from shifting down the way it has on my sig. It's really gotten annoying.KeybladeSpyMaster 21:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 14:01, 27 March 2014 (UTC) The White Day is a Japanese Valentine's Day equivalent where the women buy something for the men. Anyway the problem with these events now is there is practially no break between them. In the beginning these were the times were you could earn special rewards (cards, clothing, items) in the game but now this is happening on a regular basis and even worse these "events" are not really named anymore. The first real events, the "crystals of light", was introduced with a cutscene and a new raid boss (who now appears on regular basis) and special tokens you could trade for prices (the eponymous "crystals of light") after that the "Guard Armor Event" didn't had a cutscene but also special tokens and a new raid boss (who now also appears on regular basis). Since then the events were always special mission where season themed heartless had to be defeated but not always and that's were it becomes really complicated. For example the Wizard, the Armored Knight, the Armored Archer and recently the Gargoyle and the Morning Star are all Heartless that were introduced in the game with special missions and limited rewards but are not really tied to an event (it's often simply called "New Heartless appearance") while some of these became regular enemies in the game and other disappeared again. On top of that the number of side activities for these "events" exploded. In the first events there was often only one special condition to get a rare card. Nowadays there are rewards for the heartless missions, raid boss missions, special damage missions, team damage missions, team wins per week etc. which are also often timed. As you can see it gets more and more complicated and with SquareEnix also selling special cards and clothing even another option to earn unique rewards was added. It's not clear where an event ends and where it starts and what an event really is in the first place. That's why I stopped working on it, because it became too complex for a single category when several things happen all the time (like the changing raise ticket cards, mog trade cards, raid bosses and the kingdom, premium and gift boxes that can be bought in the shop) while the missions occur on a regular basis even without new Heartless or Raid Bosses. It's probably easier to list only the seasonal stuff but that wouldn't include all special cards and clothing that can be earned apart from the regular options.

I was noticing that. I tried to get info of the missions when I was writing up the draft in my Gadget Lab, and I noticed that the Valentine's Day Event, for example, is not the same week after week. As far as I could tell (thanks to the marvel that is Google Chrome's auto-translate), the missions are different every week and, apparently, for every level of experience. I couldn't begin to imagine where to begin with that info. And to top it off, because I'm basing myself on the game's site, the mission info is also mixed-in among the many other announcements on the page. KeybladeSpyMaster 17:29, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

The level of experience is more like a suggestion, you can always tackle all missions regardless of your deck and stats but you probably won't be able to (at least if you don't want to spend hundreds of potions or ethers). The KINGDOM HEARTS χ capture Wiki distinguishes between campaigns, events and limited missions but it's only list after list.

The other thing is that this information is almost useless by now because KHX is an online game and things have changed greatly since it started and probably won't be repeated, at least not in the same way. Instead we would need some sort of general page or section on the KHX page about these ongoing changes. ShardofTruth 18:16, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

TIL KHχ's event organization is a mess. But it looks like theres season events (Halloween, Valentine, etc) and campaigns events (Guard Armor, Special Summer, Light Crystal). Which makes it more problematic to keep track of. UnknownCheisā ^{—— Marika is Best Girl (◕‿◕✿)} 19:13, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

If it's too complicated to distill into a separate article, then it's fine to sum it up under a Development section, including the events and new Heartless, etc. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 04:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Story coverage

First things first: The story is still not considered canon most of the time, this is especially true for the events in the Disney worlds, also Dwarf Woodlands is the only world whose story concluded by now.
With the new secret movie that is part of the re-release of Re:coded in the 2.5 ReMIX there will be some things cemented though, even if it's only the official English name for the Foreteller's Script and probably the Foretellers and maybe even Chirishii (often dubbed Chirithy now) too.
I absolutely don't have time to write and expand the story and world pages that play a role in KHX, but if somebody else likes to but just can't get into the game for various reasons here are some ways to get up-to-date on the story:

• KH13 is cooperating with Everglow8444 on a fully translated walkthrough of the game, check out part 1 to 11 here.
• Sign and Goldpanner at KHInsider are still working on a full translation of all missions, it's a bit out-of-date at the moment though. You can find it here, it also includes all events in which Everglow didn't participate in. A translation of the 1st Anniversary event (with Mickey, Goofy, Donald etc.) by Kazr10 can be found here.
• Here is a 7zip archive of every mission screen and (almost) every dialogue in the game (all Japanese though), a list of the currently available animated scenes can be found here. --ShardofTruth 22:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

New information regarding the Disney worlds

Okay with the last December update three new story mission were added to the game that feature a new character of a rival Union (dependent on the player's Union) called Ephemera (エフェメラ, Efemera) (English translation is quasi-confirmed with comments in the game files) who explains some interesting things:

1. The collected LUX doesn't belong to the "Fairy Tale worlds" but to Daybreak Town.
2. The "Fairy Tale worlds" are illusions ("holographic projections") produced by the Book of Prophecies that the Foretellers of each Union possess (meaning there are really at least five tomes).
3. The reason these world were created has to do with how the real world works, apparently its easier to collect the light from far away places this way than travelling there (this may have to do with the one-world state before the Keyblade War, I'm not sure I understood it correctly).

You can find the original Japanese text here. Ephemera has a unique Chirithy (reminder: every player has one) that is darker than the others and seems to pursue its own plan. The player and Ephemera set out to find a way in the clock tower but were not successsful yet. --ShardofTruth 15:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm not gonna lie, I was gonna say this was probably how they'd make the Disney worlds canon ever since I saw the cutscene "A Fairy Tale?" from Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 ReMIX. Maleficent notes that you could conjure up entire worlds that have yet to exist. Since Kingdom Hearts χ takes place before the Keyblade War, none of the Disney worlds would have existed yet (the worlds were formed following the World's destruction in the Keyblade War, according to Kairi's Grandmother). This pretty much has set up Kingdom Hearts χ for being canon. KeybladeSpyMaster 23:25, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts: Unchained Key

It's official, the smartphone game that is coming out is indeed Kingdom Hearts χ, but under the title Kingdom Hearts: Unchained Key and it will be released worldwide. - Elfdemon

X is out for SMARTPHONE?! We need a source. And, if it's coming out for smartphone, will it be tablet-compatible? Troisnyx 11:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

According to KHInsider, it is announced for Japan only and will be on iOS and Android. Once again not for Windows Phone. TheSilentHero 13:42, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be its own page? It sounds like a remake kinda like Kingdom Hearts Final Mix or Kingdom Hearts Re:coded. And they haven't confirmed the plot, so it might be different from the current Kingdom Hearts χ plot. KeybladeSpyMaster 17:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

It should do. Additionally, we still need to figure out what to do with the other cancelled mobile phone games. TheFifteenthMember 17:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Let me see KHInsider's article for myself. For us Android users, we're going to have to find out if this game is going to be region-locked, or if there's a way to get around it and ultimately play it. Troisnyx 18:08, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Actually Synopsis?

A lot of people can't play this, or don't want to play a browser based flash social game written entirely in japanese. So is anyone gonna put up what goes on in this game? Maybe under a spoiler warning wall. Who do you play as? When is this set? Who are these foretellers and who's their leader? From what I can gather, you're a soldier in the keyblade war, which takes place in the universe before the current one. People are fighting over the light in the world (lux) and by doing so are introducing darkness. We all know since KH1 (kairi's grandma tells us a story) that the world gets consumed, and the children remake it. Do we learn anything else really important during this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Amantis (talk • contribs)

Please remember to sign your posts with the these --~~~~. Also, since the game is in Japanese, it's only available in Japan. The wiki users hardly know about it as the next person. We do our best by collecting information from those who, but even then, it's take a long time and it's a rather tedious task. However, if you read the article, there's a link there directing you to Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ, which is set to release internationally. It's the game on the for iOS and Android smartphones.--NinjaSheik 19:12, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Collecting the information is no problem at all, there are many sources of information and even complete translations. The main problem is that I, like everybody else here, don't have the time to write extensive mission and story summaries. Please also keep in mind that the game isn't finished yet, so not every mystery is answered at the moment. You can find a short summary of the main events written by Blackdrazon here and a detailed translation of every mission by KHInsider here. There is also a translated walkthrough by Everglow available on youtube. This should keep you covered and get you up-to-date. --ShardofTruth 08:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Confirmation

Hi guys, I heard KHX is official cannon, this is true? If it is I want to know, if the events are BEFORE BbS, how Alice, Aladdin, Hercules, Mickey, Emblem Heartless and others exist in this era if was CENTURIES before BbS. All this make me think the game is no-canon. Thanks for the answer :)--189.39.241.193 00:52, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Well, yes, that's true. However, since the game is available on Japan, the wiki isn't able to answer the latter.--NinjaSheik 03:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Some of your questions are already answered, but not all since the game releases new story bits every months. The topic above yours contains three ways to get into the story very fast, the most important questions are also answered on this talk page or on the several pages concerning [chi] we already have. --ShardofTruth 08:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Lacking Synopsis + Other Details

Hello, so recently I've been following Kingdom Hearts Chi pretty closely and was just wondering why this page lacks all the synopsis information? And some events in the game don't appear on the wiki - such as Player's battle with Master Ava, and the 1st and 2nd Anniversary events where Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Chip and Dale appeared in Daybreak Town (just copies from the future, pretty much the same situation as the Heartless and other worlds apart from Daybreak Town). For the most part that doesn't matter, but I do think it's worth mentioning at the very least - I mean Mickey was confronted by the Anguis Foreteller in the 1st Anniversary event, I feel as though it's all meant to be a part of the story as well. I'm just so confused as to why everything is lacking here. As a side note why does it say that Beast's Castle and Enchanted Dominion are worlds of Chi in the box at the bottom of the page? I've yet to see either world appear. (Levi657 (talk) 06:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC))

The [chi] articles lacking information is not intentional, there are simply too few people who play this game on the wiki and then write articles, summaries and descriptions but all the different aspects of the game and the language barrier isn't helping either. Hopefully this will change a bit when Unchained gets an international release (could by any month now) but nevertheless everyone is invited to help out in the mean (and all other) time(s).

As for Beast's Castle and Enchanted Dominion: The game's data contains unreleased Heartless, Keyblades and the logos of those two worlds, that's why they were included in the beginning. But I'm not sure if we will ever see them live so I will remove the information. --ShardofTruth 08:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

So would it be alright if I write a synopsis for what's happened in Chi so far? I wouldn't go into much detail about the events in visited worlds, moreso the main story in Daybreak Town - at least for this page. And would you want the newer advancements in the plot here as well, rather than in Unchained Chi? (Levi657 (talk) 12:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC))

Of course that would be alright. The only rule is that there shouldn't be any speculation about story details that haven't be released yet. Kingdom Hearts coded and Re:coded also have pretty much the same story, so it's almost similiar on both these pages, so I guess that won't be any different for [chi] and Unchained either. Since the game page should cover the whole game some details for the Disney worlds are probably requiered if they advance the plot, if you just want to add story of Daybreak Town you can write it on the world's own page instead. Ideally, every world that is part of [chi] and Unchained should have a story summary. --ShardofTruth 13:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Beast's Castle

Why does someone keep deleting the characters from Beast's Castle? You can see Beast, Belle, Lumiere and Cogsworth in the screenshots from Beast's Castle gameplay. If that's not confirmation then I don't know what is. Mrs. Potts and Chip's roles have also been confirmed in a release of the first part of the synopsis - so deleting that I suppose is understandable, but the rest is valid. (Levi657 (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC))

The reason the characters were deleted is that nobody provided any source, until now. Also, it might be a better idea to link to the images off-site, because they don't really have a purpose on the wiki and will probably get deleted. TheSilentHero 17:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

No, it's not confirmation, for the same reason the screenshot of the Twilight Thorn in KH3D wasn't confirmation. This is clearly explained in the manual of style. If you want to know what confirmation is, it's (1) owning the finished game and seeing the characters within, or (2) production staff saying, on the record, "this is definitely going to be in the finished game, absolutely for sure, we're not just "planning" or "thinking" about putting it in." For example, Nomura saying "Yeah, Frozen is very popular, we should put it in." is NOT confirmation. Nomura saying "We are including characters from Frozen in KH3" would be."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I think KHx shouldn't follow those rules since it is already partly released, and only gets new updates, so it's not like they could still change a lot of things. TheSilentHero 21:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

This, though. Granted, the inclusion of Beast's Castle has actually made it likely that that Keychain will end up being used, but KHX is just as able as the other games to have unused content. We've had this discussion every few months since the wiki started, it feels, and every time a game comes out we get more and more examples of materials that appeared and were even named in promotional materials, but totally, absolutely, undeniably, incontrovertibly failed to show up in the actual published game. I don't want to scare off new users by forcing them to undergo the Ludovico technique with the words "It ain't confirmed until the game's released" interspersed with horrifying images before they can edit, but I'm so. gotdamn. tired. of having to keep giving this lecture despite us having a massive, well-maintained article on exactly why the policy is necessary."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

True, but that image was from before the game's first release (I think). With a regular game, like KH3D or Days, that takes years to develop, there may be some things shown that will ultimately be removed. But with the KHx updates, which occur every couple of weeks, there isn't enough time to add something to the game, show it to the players, and then go back and remove it all again. TheSilentHero 07:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

No, Shard hacked it from the game, and we made the same assumption that if the data was there, the Keyblade was about to show up.

I'm putting my foot down. This is a stupid argument that bites us in the ass every time we show it some leniency. We will not be treating topics as confirmed without written confirmation, or the actual release of the game. WE ARE NOT A NEWS SITE."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

To be fair I didn't "hack" anything, it was all there, things just change constantly in χ[chi] and by that I mean every two weeks or so, descriptions are altered, attacks replaced, enemies switched, stuff gets removed and added all the time like with every other online game on the planet. It's just not really easy to keep up with it when you're practically the only person on the wiki who plays this game. I agree though that the Keyblades should have been removed sooner when it was clear that they won't appear for a very long time.

For the record: All Disney characters from KHII also appear in χ[chi], the Divine Rose Keyblade can now be acquired and the Gargoyle Knight finally makes his entrance, there are also three new synthesis items and a lot of new maps. I will upload all this stuff as soon as I can. --ShardofTruth 10:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

So, who's left, Cinderella and Aurora? Huh. By any chance, since KHX is visiting all the princesses before the Keyblade War proper, does it at all indicate how they were chosen?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Not all all, Chirithy doesn't seem to know what a princess is either, it often just references them as a "special light" (at least Alice and Snow White, Jasmine didn't appear yet and there was no such comment made for Belle) while not explaining what's so special about them. So it's not really part of the story at the moment, maybe when we touch the subject of the 7th princess in the future, I don't know. --ShardofTruth 15:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

...that's...huh. What is the point of making almost all of the worlds Princess related in a game about the leadup to the Keyblade War, if you just ignore them? Is there any mention of why certain worlds appear?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:24, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

No, but that's because most of the plot of [chi] is not explained yet. Currently the Disney worlds are just a means for the Foretellers to collect Lux which is in turn needed to summon Kingdom Hearts (at least that's what news of Backcover are hinting at). --ShardofTruth 17:20, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

There, that took what, two days? We lost nothing by waiting two days until the characters were actually added to the published game."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro)