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{{ShardofTruth|time=23:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)|talk=I wanted to put this discussion at the keyblade talk page but I think there there will be too much speculation. Basically I want to know if this "keyblade" seen in KH3D is really a keyblade or not. This keyblade lacks a keychain (at least I think so, it's really hard to see) but that doesn't disqualify it as keyblade (if it's really one) because we've seen that before. What could disqualify it is if it just another summoned blade or not.<br>
{{ShardofTruth|time=23:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)|talk=I wanted to put this discussion at the keyblade talk page but I think there there will be too much speculation. Basically I want to know if this "keyblade" seen in KH3D is really a keyblade or not. This keyblade lacks a keychain (at least I think so, it's really hard to see) but that doesn't disqualify it as keyblade (if it's really one) because we've seen that before. What could disqualify it is if it just another summoned blade or not.<br>
The keyblade's movement is similiar to the KHII limit "Eternal Session", so it could just be an enhancened version of this move. Also summoned blades are not that rare anymore. We have the XIII Blades from the session move (which are quite similiar to Ven's Wingblades), the Bladecharge command style (which is similiar to the "Master Hearts" part of "Eternal Session" and the "Zone of Ruin" Overclock Finisher in Re:coded) and the two different blades Eraqus and Armor of the Master use. Then there are even more borderline cases, that are considered real keyblades at the moment: the summoned "Graveyard Keyblades" from KHBBS, the stolen Oathkeeper and Oblivion from the Roxas battle in KHIIFM and of course Riku's Souleater.<br>
The keyblade's movement is similiar to the KHII limit "Eternal Session", so it could just be an enhancened version of this move. Also summoned blades are not that rare anymore. We have the XIII Blades from the session move (which are quite similiar to Ven's Wingblades), the Bladecharge command style (which is similiar to the "Master Hearts" part of "Eternal Session" and the "Zone of Ruin" Overclock Finisher in Re:coded) and the two different blades Eraqus and Armor of the Master use. Then there are even more borderline cases, that are considered real keyblades at the moment: the summoned "Graveyard Keyblades" from KHBBS, the stolen Oathkeeper and Oblivion from the Roxas battle in KHIIFM and of course Riku's Souleater.<br>
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7762/summonedbladeskh2.png<br>}}
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:I believe it does have a keychain, or at least the pre-combined halves each have a keychain. Also: I WANT THESE I WANT THESE I WANT THESE  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 00:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:I believe it does have a keychain, or at least the pre-combined halves each have a keychain. Also: I WANT THESE I WANT THESE I WANT THESE  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 00:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::You're right, I just checked another video. The two seperate keychains seem to fuse to a single one. I rest my case then, now we only need the official name. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 00:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::You're right, I just checked another video. The two seperate keychains seem to fuse to a single one. I rest my case then, now we only need the official name. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 00:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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{{AROS|time=19:11|text=Um...here's an idea. Wouldn't Sora and Riku's Nightmare's End and Mirage Split Keyblades be called Nightmare's End and Mirage Split, respectively? It just makes sense to me.}}
{{AROS|time=19:11|text=Um...here's an idea. Wouldn't Sora and Riku's Nightmare's End and Mirage Split Keyblades be called Nightmare's End and Mirage Split, respectively? It just makes sense to me.}}
{{Maggosh|nathan=That is speculation and you know it.}}
{{Maggosh|nathan=That is speculation and you know it.}}
{{AROS|time=21:36|text=I know, but so far this is all been speculation. If not, we could just dub them as the Nightmare's End's Keyblade and the Mirage Split's Keyblade. Not official names or anything, but place-holder names, until Nomura finally decides to give them a names or to reveal whatever names they already have. Just a thought. I'm sorry if I over-stepped any boundaries or anything.}}
{{KrytenKoro|That these ''exist'' is not speculation, and that's all we've been claiming. As I suggested above, these would properly go on a list of unnamed weapons, with sections like "Nightmare's End/Mirage Split Keyblade", etc.}}
{{AROS|time=15:56|text=Well, there we go.}}

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ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 23:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Game Clear Data KHRECOM.png I wanted to put this discussion at the keyblade talk page but I think there there will be too much speculation. Basically I want to know if this "keyblade" seen in KH3D is really a keyblade or not. This keyblade lacks a keychain (at least I think so, it's really hard to see) but that doesn't disqualify it as keyblade (if it's really one) because we've seen that before. What could disqualify it is if it just another summoned blade or not.

The keyblade's movement is similiar to the KHII limit "Eternal Session", so it could just be an enhancened version of this move. Also summoned blades are not that rare anymore. We have the XIII Blades from the session move (which are quite similiar to Ven's Wingblades), the Bladecharge command style (which is similiar to the "Master Hearts" part of "Eternal Session" and the "Zone of Ruin" Overclock Finisher in Re:coded) and the two different blades Eraqus and Armor of the Master use. Then there are even more borderline cases, that are considered real keyblades at the moment: the summoned "Graveyard Keyblades" from KHBBS, the stolen Oathkeeper and Oblivion from the Roxas battle in KHIIFM and of course Riku's Souleater.
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I believe it does have a keychain, or at least the pre-combined halves each have a keychain. Also: I WANT THESE I WANT THESE I WANT THESE --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 00:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
You're right, I just checked another video. The two seperate keychains seem to fuse to a single one. I rest my case then, now we only need the official name. --ShardofTruth 00:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 17:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Game Clear Data KHRECOM.png I hijack this topic again: Could Riku's powered up keyblade in the last battle of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days considered a form of Bladecharge too? I'm trying to rip the weapon at the moment, but it's a bit complicated. Here are some screens:

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KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on."
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Anything that wreathes a Keyblade in an aura of light should be covered in "other appearances" for Bladecharge, and anything that summons multiple spectral blades should be covered in Wingblade. When they get official names (like Zone of Ruin, or Master Hearts), those should be covered both as other appearances, and as see also. I'm not sure if we should have them covered as other appearances on multiple articles, though; Session seems to be a combination of both Command Styles, while Zone of Ruin seems to be a quick, temporary version of Bladecharge. Not sure about the Armor of the Master and No Heart things, though, and I have no idea how phantom Keyblades should be treated...do we have anything that summons phantom keyblades as more than a quick attack animation?


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Xabryn - Golden Star Charm.pngI don't care if you're real!You're not better!
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Heartless Emblem.pngThere is also a blade that can be either summoned or enveloped around Riku's Soul Eater in ReCoM, in Dark Barrage description it is called a Soul Eater. Also I think that both Roxas and Xion envelop their Keyblades in Light during their limit break
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ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 22:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Game Clear Data KHRECOM.png You're right, I forgot the summoned Soul Eaters, maybe I can make a screenshot. Using a light enveloped keyblade is more like using a different command style (like using an ice enveloped keyblade in Diamond Dust) so maybe saying this is bladecharge and this is not is a bit of a fudge.

Anyway guess what the Mirgage Split/Nightmare Break keyblades are called in KH3D. Even the Ultimania doesn't know, it's called just keyblade there, what a joke.
http://imageshack.us/f/403/miragesplit.jpg/

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So, bringing this back up: We should definitely get a list of these, an rip them as images if possible. Until we decide something better, I think a good catch-all would be List of unnamed weapons.
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ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. ShardofTruth (talk) 18:18, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Game Clear Data KHRECOM.png They are very elusive, all I found until now are Ventus' Wingblade blades.


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AROS - My friends are my power!
TALK - Okay, why not? I'll go with you guys." - 19:11
Um...here's an idea. Wouldn't Sora and Riku's Nightmare's End and Mirage Split Keyblades be called Nightmare's End and Mirage Split, respectively? It just makes sense to me.
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maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

That is speculation and you know it.


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TALK - Okay, why not? I'll go with you guys." - 21:36
I know, but so far this is all been speculation. If not, we could just dub them as the Nightmare's End's Keyblade and the Mirage Split's Keyblade. Not official names or anything, but place-holder names, until Nomura finally decides to give them a names or to reveal whatever names they already have. Just a thought. I'm sorry if I over-stepped any boundaries or anything.
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That these exist is not speculation, and that's all we've been claiming. As I suggested above, these would properly go on a list of unnamed weapons, with sections like "Nightmare's End/Mirage Split Keyblade", etc.


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AROS - My friends are my power!
TALK - Okay, why not? I'll go with you guys." - 15:56
Well, there we go.