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{{LapisScarab|time=22:42, November 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=Four days at the most. that's how old an account has to be to be auto-confirmed. Still not much.}} | {{LapisScarab|time=22:42, November 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=Four days at the most. that's how old an account has to be to be auto-confirmed. Still not much.}} | ||
{{Hangon|time=22:56, November 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=You all think sencefully, but some people threaten me saying they'll mess up my User Page, and that gets annoying, but not only that, my friend's new and he typed on UFC wiki at the bottom "by the way I love thi move", he can get kicked off, wich is good, now little kids can get on this site and mess it up, I told my friend he shouldn't but he did, I'm not against them all, but most of them have some kind of mental issue, it's not my fault though.}} | |||
{{Chitalian8|time=23:10, November 22, 2010 (UTC)|hane= Saying that most anons have some sort of "mental issue" could be taken as offensive by some, and it's also a ridiculous exaggeration. Just because some anon replaces all content with "I LIEK BAKON" or something like that doesn't mean you can judge all of the anons. That's unfair discrimination. I'm sure all of us were anons at some point, and I was an anon for a rather long time before I made my account. | |||
Besides, is it really that hard to work the (quote Soxra) "Three click miracle?"}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=00:35, November 23, 2010 (UTC)|text=Not to mention we can always just block the individual troublemakers as they come like we normally do. It doesn't matte rhow old someone is and in fact if they're vandals they're probably older than they're pretending to be. "Little kids" don't know any better; "big kids" (for lack of a better phrase) do things like this for fun. I've gotten threats of vandalism from anons and registered contributors alike, and I just ignore them. Little morons that don't have anything more constructive to do don't intimidate me, I laugh at them. | |||
And Chitalian's right; the assertion that "most" anons (you're pulling that estimate out of your ass, by the way; most anons are fine, we just notice vandals more) have a "mental issue" is extremely offensive to me personally. I'd like to know exactly what "mental issue" compells people to vandalize the Kingdom Hearts Wiki specifically. There's a difference between having a mental condition you can't control and being a dick all on your own.}} | |||
{{Hangon|time=20:47, November 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sory for offending you LapisScarab, you're right everything you said, but I still think that at least 75% of people mess up the wiki thinking it's funny, wich is why we could block them, the kids shouldn't be on the wiki anyway, the tweens and older can get kicked off with ease, A.K.A., 3 warnings, get what I'm saying?}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=21:18, November 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Exactly my point. We can always just block, and have always been blocking, the individual vandals as they come. We don't need to render anons incapable of editing because of the actions of the few (and they ''are'' the few; where exactly are you getting "75%" from? I am doubtful that you actually recorded every single IP's edits, then calculated how many were vandals. Aything less than that and you're just making crap up). Age should not matter whatsoever. Twelve year olds can be quite mature, and seventee or eighteen year-olds can be the most immature brats you can imagne (trust me, I knnow many). What matters is maturity, which is not something you can tell just from someone's age or whether they're anons or not. You can only know if someone's a good or bad editor ''after'' they've actually done something, and blocking IPs in some preemptive strike renders that meaningless. | |||
And again I need to stress that even if we ''did'' block all anons, vandalism would still happen. They'd just get accounts, vandalize and get blocked--back to square one, only then we'd have been assholes to unregistered contributors that ''want'' to help for no reason.}} | |||
{{Hangon|time=23:44, November 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=You're right I'm still wrong, I'm feeling pretty stupid now, but I'm talking about, like 7½ people who play KH and don't know the coding}} | |||
{{ANX219|time={{{time}}}|sad=A non-user wrote something inappropriate on Vexen Boss' page. It makes me mad!}} | |||
{{ANX219|time={{{time}}}|sad=A non-user wrote something inappropriate on Sephriroth's page. It makes me mad! I am 100% of blocking non-wikians.}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=02:19, November 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=You didn't read anything I just typed did you? That is ''one'' unregistered contributor. Give me an hour and I could come up with ten anons that weren't vandals. And that term doesn't make sense. In editing this wiki they become "Wikians", whether they're vandals or not.}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=02:38, November 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.225.16.38 One potato], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.215.20.249 two potato], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.164.155.33 three potato], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Prize_Pod&diff=prev&oldid=420167 four]. [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/117.192.230.251 You get the idea].}} | |||
{{17m|text= Okay how about this: we put up a warning in the editing section. I don't know if that's possible, but if it is possible, then we should put it up. Other solution I can think of is to give them the first warning immediately after their first vandal. Maybe that'll stop some of them from continuing to vandal the other articles.}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=03:00, November 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=So, basically, '''exactly what we do with vandals right now.''' I think you guys are missing the point; regardless of wether they're registered or unregistered, we deal with vandals the same way - a "friendly" warning to stop, then successive warning templates until they hit three, then we block them. There's no reason to discriminate specifically against anons.}} | |||
Dammit... guys... why? Lapis has said this about ten times in a row. Just read. This page isn't even a giant like the WWWG? forum. I took me about three minutes to read this. And, to repeat what Lapis said again, will you stop with the fake figures, Hangon? What is this 7 1/2? Have you ever seen the wiki contributor pyramid thing? It starts at everything, then goes to people who like a certain area. After that, it goes to people who like that item who need to search for it and wish to read about it. Then, it goes to those who will find their way here. Of those people, only a certain percent will stay, and of those, an even smaller percent will edit the wiki, either registered or unregistered. I know from experience that it is ''really'' easy to scare away new editors. I've scared away a couple myself. Getting rid of an anon who reads might even discourage them from reading in the future. {{The Inexistentsig}} | |||
{{LapisScarab|time=03:51, November 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kemo- Yes, all vandals are anons...] Does everyone get the point yet? [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Groudonfire17 Anyone can be a vandal.]}} | |||
{{JFHavoc|time=04:00, November 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=For the record, I only read the first post. So I don't know if anyone else has already brought this up. A Wiki is a database of information that ''anyone'' can edit and contribute too. It's not anon's fault that they're uninformed. If anything the problem is uninformed users.}} | |||
{{17m|text= JFH is right. And we already have 2 [[User:Chitalian8|trustworthy]] [[User:NinjaSheik|wiki gnomes]] already!}} | |||
{{ANX219|time={{{time}}}|shocked=Oh! I'm sorry Lapis. I wasn't paying attention. But, The Inexistent has a point there.}} | |||
{{Hangon|time=17:25, December 4, 2010 (UTC)|sad=Sorry, JFH is right, but when I said "7½" I meant age, not fraction of users, since anyone can edit little people can to, I got my first KH game when I was little, so why can't kids get on like that? JFH is right though I suggest we bring this Forum to an end I'm really sorry for all the trouble I caused.}} |
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Dammit... guys... why? Lapis has said this about ten times in a row. Just read. This page isn't even a giant like the WWWG? forum. I took me about three minutes to read this. And, to repeat what Lapis said again, will you stop with the fake figures, Hangon? What is this 7 1/2? Have you ever seen the wiki contributor pyramid thing? It starts at everything, then goes to people who like a certain area. After that, it goes to people who like that item who need to search for it and wish to read about it. Then, it goes to those who will find their way here. Of those people, only a certain percent will stay, and of those, an even smaller percent will edit the wiki, either registered or unregistered. I know from experience that it is really easy to scare away new editors. I've scared away a couple myself. Getting rid of an anon who reads might even discourage them from reading in the future. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON.
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