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'''After Days, I joined the wiki. Now I need to figure out how to play BbS when it comes out...'''}} | '''After Days, I joined the wiki. Now I need to figure out how to play BbS when it comes out...'''}} | ||
{{ | {{Riku's Love|time=18:39, August 1, 2010 (UTC)|text= I never gopt into any of the forums stuff and i have never tried to get hooked either. But i did cause of the preople here. Most of the users here are great friends or in my case a brother. This wiki cause got me to actually waanna fisnish a game. Thats why i have borrowed my brothers' Ds'd after i broke my third onw. I got a psp because of BbS. I hope no one else leaves its great here and i love ya'll!}} | ||
{{Chitalian8|time=02:21, August 3, 2010 (UTC)|text= Alright guys. I am a new guy to this wiki. I am not as skilled in editing as other people. I can't write as good descriptions as Lapis, I'm not good with pictures like Xiggie. I'm just a User trying to be a good asset to the wiki. I think that this wiki is great on the mainspace. Articles are great looking, and people can tell that this is a high quality wiki. I joined this wiki with high hopes. I just wish that there wasn't so much drama going on. Like BK said, this is a wiki, a place for entertainment. This isn't Gossip girl, this is a wiki about Disney characters and Keys and Light Doors and whatnot. I agree with KKD, the standards of this wiki are at an all time low.}} | |||
{{BebopKate|time=02:27, August 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yeah. The conversation has evolved a bit... -_- | |||
But the entire discussion up there is pretty much a summary of everything I've been hearing over the last two weeks. The staff is too controlling! So-and-so won't stop socializing and causing drama! The IRC is...well, let's leave IRC out of this for the moment. That's a whole different ball game right now. | |||
But you see why I wanted you guys to look carefully at why you are here. | |||
I see some users who are here because they want to help organize a wiki on a video game. I see others who are here for accomplishment and praise. Still others who want to socialize. None of those things are bad in and of themselves...it's when people begin viewing them as the ONLY reason to be here we have a conflict. | |||
1.The editors: Yes, the main reason we are here is the wiki. That mainspace ain't going to edit itself. But there are people behind the edits. Thinking, living, flawed people. In our case, mostly fairly young people as well, who are still growing and learning. Remembering the people behind the manners and offers to help will get everyone much farther than accusations and stealth edits. | |||
2.The achievers: Yes, we do praise and notice those who do good work. It's only natural and pretty common in any social situation. Granted, some work gets noticed more than others; a huge section of new info is a striking difference versus fixing a few links and grammar errors. Both are important to the wiki, I think most of us realize that, and it really is a shame we don't always take time to say it. But if you are motivated to edit or post just to be recognized or become one of the "bigwigs", or think it's the only reason to be here, please rethink your priorities. | |||
3.The chatters, the talkers, the princesses: the socializers are very good at getting things done as a group, at organizing projects and people and helping the communication around the wiki. It's when they ''only'' talk that others feel annoyed or angry; the fact is, wikis are great mediums for communication, but they're primarily for information, and it gets hard to sort that information with a lot of activity around. There are thousands of places to socialize on the internet, but there are very few ''Kingdom Hearts'' wikis. | |||
I | I think most everyone here fits into one of those three groups, perhaps two. The question I ask now is: think about where you fit in. How can you take your type (or types) and make it work with the others?}} | ||
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{{Auror Andrachome|text=<s>By the controlling staff, I think you mean DTN</s> By your statement that the admins know everything and are better than average users was quite rude. Not trying to start something, but...............you know better than me.}} | |||
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{{LapisScarab|time=02:41, August 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=Auror, enough with the user-bashing.}} | |||
{{BebopKate|time=02:42, August 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=The plural form in point two refers to the wiki as a whole, not staff members.}} | |||
{{The Inexistent|text=''' | {{The Inexistent|text='''I can see this coming, and, although I don't know how it may work, or what it may be about, or if you guys will even end up reading this, I can see only one solution: Project:Community.'''}} | ||
{{Xion4ever|time=19:02, August 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=First, kudos to Kate for creating this forum! Now for my reason for joining the wiki: | |||
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I was a fan of ''Kingdom Hearts'', just like the rest of you. I played the games to completion and then some, had a few discussions here and there with some Elementary school friends and such. However, in my later school years I couldn't find people who shared my love of the game. While others talked about pointless "drama", I was busy daydreaming about music and video games. So, after a few years of looking around the internet, I ran across this place. I saw the happy community and discussions and thought, 'Wow, those people are having fun.' ...Fun. Over a video game! A video game, something others use as mindless lesisure time! That passion and dedication, to write and talk about a video game they enjoy and make this Wiki the best it can be, is what brought me here. | |||
Although we've all had our rough times here on the Wiki/IRC, I, for one, have loved my time here. I wouldn't give up my memories/time spent on here with the great community/staff/video game, for anything. Nice job, everyone. ^_^}} | |||
{{The Inexistent|text=''' | {{The Inexistent|text='''The Inexistent claps for finally seeing a a heartwarming addition to this conversation.'''}} | ||
{{ | {{Yuanchosaan|time=08:48, August 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
|text=Cheers, Kate. | |||
I had just started editing on the FF wiki. Azul noticed that I had played the KH series, and invited me over to edit. He's also the reason why I'm on the KH wiki IRC.}} | |||
{{TNE|time=13:47, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=No kidding, Yuan ? :D It was Azul ? Wow. | |||
And cheers, Xion. ^_^}} | |||
{{ | {{EO|time=14:15, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=The fact that those walls of text were moved does not erase the fact that they were created. We should link to the page where they are now contained somewhere in the forum. Regardless, let's keep the sunshine and lollipops attitdue alive as we waltz hand-in-hand into a shining future!}} | ||
{{ | [[Forum:Wiki Thoughts - Please Read/Statements]]{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}14:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{TNE|time=14:52, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=/cue ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XgXKmxUnek Yume No Mirai]''}} |
Latest revision as of 04:10, 30 June 2014
Alright. No Daisy here. These are some serious thoughts and observations I've been seeing going on over the last few months.
- We have had a lot of conflict. Admins, IRC, formatting, you name it.
- I am getting e-mails, talk page messages, IRC PMs, and so on at least once a week, usually much more, about the crumbling infrastructure of the wiki, usually about how one group of people is totally ruining everything, and then proceeding to get an e-mail from the opposite faction about how they're ruining everything.
- We have a LOT of new people. But I see them contributing very little, other than talk page chat. And I really wonder why.
So, I want all of you...veterans, admins, mods, editors, newbies, bureaucrats...EVERYONE, to stop and read the following sentence below.
This is only a wiki.
Read it again, if you have to. Read it as many times as you need to until it sinks in.
We are fussing, fighting, wasting time and energy in our real, everyday lives on a wiki. About a video game. With talking ducks and guys who hit people with giant keys.
So, here's the deal.
We need to back off. We need to start taking this thing way less seriously. I'm not saying let the trolls run rampant and we have a second Kingdom Hearts fanon wiki. But I am saying that the nitpicking, the rules slamming, and the lack of flexibility needs to stop. That good faith thing? That's one of the most important rules in existence. Real life as well. Occasionally, it gets you burned, but it makes things better for most everyone in the long run.
We have come a long way from the scraps of info two years ago. We laid down the law because we had no rules or enforcement. We now almost have an excess of both.
A wiki is supposed to be fun. Some people gain that fun from writing entries on their favorite characters. Some do by making and editing graphics to go in those articles. Some people enjoy organizing things or gnoming. Some people like working with other people on a big goal or project. Some people just like being around other people who enjoy the same things as they do.
So, I say to the following groups:
- Staff and admins, myself included. We need to lighten up. We are seriously making this a miserable place to be. We are editors, same as everyone else, and we need to remember it more than anyone else. We need to remember that fun from that video game we all played and enjoyed that put us here in the first place.
- Editors, edit. Write articles. Add pictures. Just talk about the series in the forums. Enjoy yourselves. That Mirage Arena idea? That was awesome, and would fit in well with the wiki. We'll find a way to make it work.
- New editors. Welcome. Thank you for wanting to be part of our community. Help us out. Ask questions if you're not sure. Discuss the games you enjoy. Even if you just go around fixing little things, that's one less thing that needs to be fixed, one little addition that makes the wiki that much better.
As you go around editing and posting, think upon these things. Think of how you can be the best person you can be here.
In short:
This is only a wiki.
Thank you. Now, back to getting excited over Birth by Sleep.
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Forum:Wiki Thoughts - Please Read/StatementsLapisLazuliScarab14:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
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