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| {{KKD|time=21:46, July 4, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2= Hey everyone. Redeemer and Destroyer came up with this idea, but I'm suggesting it on his behalf. As many users know, the Final Fantasy Wiki has the Dragon's Neck Colosseum, essentially a popularity contest between characters, as voted by users. I believe that we are long overdue for such a competition on our wiki. I, Redeemer&Destroyer, and ZACH have prepared a prototype based on the Dragon's Neck Colosseum, called the "Mirage Arena (to keep in with the BBS theme.), found [[User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Laboratory|here.]] Another tentative logo for the Mirage Arena is [[File:MirageArenaKKD.png|here]]. However, as to not make ourselves a complete copy of the FFWiki, we also have come up with the idea of a tournament. After four months of "Battles", we compile the winners (Which would be 16, one for every week) into a 15-day tournament called the "Joint Struggle", akin to GameFaq's character battle. Every day, a new pairing of contenders will be voted upon, the winner continuing to the next round. This would happen in the first 15 days of the month. The next 15 days would be dedicated to selecting characters and matchups for the next four months. The contenders could be anything from characters (Disney, original) to Worlds, to Keyblades. Please leave your thoughts in the section below. | | {{KKD|time=21:46, July 4, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2= Hey everyone. Redeemer and Destroyer came up with this idea, but I'm suggesting it on his behalf. As many users know, the Final Fantasy Wiki has the Dragon's Neck Colosseum, essentially a popularity contest between characters, as voted by users. I believe that we are long overdue for such a competition on our wiki. I, Redeemer&Destroyer, and ZACH have prepared a prototype based on the Dragon's Neck Colosseum, called the "Mirage Arena (to keep in with the BBS theme.), found [[User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Laboratory|here.]] Another tentative logo for the Mirage Arena is <!--[[File:MirageArenaKKD.png|here]]-->. However, as to not make ourselves a complete copy of the FFWiki, we also have come up with the idea of a tournament. After four months of "Battles", we compile the winners (Which would be 16, one for every week) into a 15-day tournament called the "Joint Struggle", akin to GameFaq's character battle. Every day, a new pairing of contenders will be voted upon, the winner continuing to the next round. This would happen in the first 15 days of the month. The next 15 days would be dedicated to selecting characters and matchups for the next four months. The contenders could be anything from characters (Disney, original) to Worlds, to Keyblades. Please leave your thoughts in the section below. |
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| EDIT 16:36, July 5, 2010 (UTC):A tentative list has been drafted for the first four months of "battles". There are four categories, Characters (Disney, Final Fantasy, KH originals), Worlds, Weapons (Keyblades, Shields, etc.), and Enemies (Heartless, Nobodies, Unversed). The list is as follows: | | EDIT 16:36, July 5, 2010 (UTC):A tentative list has been drafted for the first four months of "battles". There are four categories, Characters (Disney, Final Fantasy, KH originals), Worlds, Weapons (Keyblades, Shields, etc.), and Enemies (Heartless, Nobodies, Unversed). The list is as follows: |
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| #Sora vs. Riku | | #Sora vs. Riku |
| #Land of the Dragons vs. Olympus Colosseum | | #Simple and Clean vs. Sanctuary |
| #Kingdom Key vs. Kingdom Key D | | #Kingdom Key vs. Kingdom Key D |
| #Neoshadow vs. Dusk | | #Neoshadow vs. Dusk |
| #Cid vs. Pence | | #Cid vs. Pence |
| #Hollow Bastion vs. Radiant Garden | | #Space Paranoids vs. Port Royal |
| #Buster Sword vs. Chakrams (Eternal Flames) | | #Buster Sword vs. Chakrams (Eternal Flames) |
| #Dustflier vs. Leechgrave | | #Dustflier vs. Leechgrave |
| #Axel vs. Saix | | #Axel vs. Saix |
| #Space Paranoids vs. Port Royal | | #Hollow Bastion vs. Radiant Garden |
| #Knight’s Shield vs. Axe Sword (Skysplitter) | | #Knight’s Shield vs. Axe Sword (Skysplitter) |
| #Guard armor vs. Trinity Armor | | #Guard armor vs. Trinity Armor |
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| EDIT: KKD idea of no anonymous votes is good. It is now on.}} | | EDIT: KKD idea of no anonymous votes is good. It is now on.}} |
| {{KKD|time=18:01, July 8, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2= Welcome back. And by the way, the fixed battles are for the first round only, so we can get the competition going. The second round on will be nominated battles.}} | | {{KKD|time=18:01, July 8, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2= Welcome back. And by the way, the fixed battles are for the first round only, so we can get the competition going. The second round on will be nominated battles.}} |
| | {{R&D|time=18:09, July 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Thanks!! Ok, I understand. |
| | The Zeldapedia nomination page is a little weird... I don't get how that works... The Neutral votes are just useless... If you are voting neutral, juts don't vote at all.}} |
| | {{KKD|time=18:34, July 8, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2=Yeah, they Kinda are. I did away with the templates fully though. Here is an example of our own nomination page, which will run like featured media. [[User:KingdomKeyDarkside/MirageArena|Check this out.]] EDIT 22:24, July 8, 2010 (UTC): I really don't think that having an edit requirement is that necessary. It makes more work for us (checking to see if someone is eligible, and if we get lots of votes, it just becomes a pain) and also seems unfair, considering you need no such requirement to vote in featured media. }} |
| | {{LA|Vtext=I see your point KKD. However, as it has been stated somewhere, we can't let this feature become a huge distraction from the mainspace. Likewise, we can't have users join the site just to participate in the Mirage Arena. We're supposed to be here for the wiki, technically. While I see your point that it is just a huge pain to check all of the editcount, I happen to be blessed without a huge sense of laziness, thus why I always talk in complete sentences, and proper grammar... a rare thing around here. That's beside the point. I can handle the editcount thing, if everyone is going to complain about it, because I believe the rule is necessary. Hard work is a necessity when it comes to maintaining order. We also have to keep faith that the users on the wiki will '''assume good faith''', and ''not'' break the rule. So, if we're lucky, we might not have to deal with it at all.}} |
| | {{R&D|Time=23:40, July 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=The editcount thing, I agree with KKD. Considering that the editor is only allowed to vote '''once''' I doubt it will become a huge distraction from mainspace. Keeping track onf the edit account of every user who votes is just going to be a pain to the Crew. We already removed the anonymous vote, if we keep it like that, eventually only staff will be able to vote. (I know, I exaggerated that one)}} |
| | {{LA|Vtext=When they say "once", I think they mean "once a month", not "once forever". Right? |
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| | And like I said, '''I can handle it''' ^^'}} |
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| | {{R&D|time=00:48, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=We have the big picture complete. It just needs a small adjust. I want that the first battle to be done on this Sunday (UTC). If we can get everything done, I'm asking admins approval to start the page for the first battle.}} |
| | {{KKD|time=01:34, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2=Okay, sounds good. Just one thing, the edit count should be at maximum, 100, especially considering the amount of activity right now. Once activity picks up, we may raise it a bit. And, Redeemer, what is this "big picture" that you're talking about? Cuz we decided that we're gonna stay in with the forums and use Trois's banner. EDIT01:36, July 9, 2010 (UTC): I'll make it so you have to have 100 edits before you can nominate or vote for matches as well.}} |
| | {{R&D|time=[[User:Redeemer & Destroyer|Redeemer & Destroyer]] 12:35, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=By big picture I mean the whole idea... it just lacks a few details... I'm going to change the picture to TNÉ's. The edit count thing is up. I guess that soon we will be working at full power. We have by now 6 crew members, so we pretty much have enought people to keep track of the editcount and the rules about voting.}} |
| | {{TNE|time=14:19, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=We can have it up ! |
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| | [22:16] <Bluerfn> Man, did you hear? Someone suggested that they make a Coliseum-like page |
| | [22:16] <LotsoBearLover> Yep. |
| | [22:16] <Xion4ever> Thoughts, Bluer? |
| | [22:16] <troisnyxetienne> YEAP. :D |
| | [22:16] <troisnyxetienne> Thoughts ? |
| | [22:16] <Bluerfn> Well, I'm okay with that. |
| | [22:16] <troisnyxetienne> Oh and, by any chance, did you check out the cover link I sent you ? |
| | [22:16] <Bluerfn> KHWiki's been solid. |
| | [22:16] <troisnyxetienne> ^_^ Yays ! |
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| | EDIT 14:29, July 9, 2010 (UTC) : Blue adds that the reason he didn't support the page in previous years is because he needed to get people to edit the mainspace. |
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| | {{R&D|time=14:35, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=YAY!!! With Blue concent the page will be made. The first battle will start on Sunday and finish on Saturday. Riku vs. Sora. |
| | The page is the following: [[KHWiki:Mirage Arena]]}} |
| | {{KKD|time=16:11, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2=Let's get this started, people!}} |
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| | {{ZACH|mandrake=ok some users do not understand so i will There is one vote for each user and that one vote will be used once every fight week only users with accounts can vote if there is any thing you want to know ping me on the irc or any other user part of this crew.}} |
| | {{KKD|time=19:36, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|roxas2=Okay, Nominations are officially open for Round Two, Week one. I'm gonna start a little early so we can get things moving. Go [[KHWiki:Mirage Arena/Nominations|here]] if you wish to nominate anything.}} |
| | {{R&D|time=02:46, July 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I thought on the responsibility each member of the crew will have... at least for now. |
| | *Me = Organize the Mirage Arena page and oversee everything there. |
| | *KKD = Organize the Nomination page and oversee everything there. |
| | *LegoAlchemist= keep track on editcount of Mirage Arena votes. |
| | *Wolf = keep track on editcount of Nomination and make sure the Arena userbox gets edited at each fight. |
| | *OathkeeperKH = Make sure rules are followed on the Nomination. (basically... a moderator of Nomination) |
| | *HikariKH = Make sure rules are followed at the Mirage arena. (same here) |
| | *Everyone= Organize Joint Struggle. (that's a job for everyone) |
| | Any objection, just leave a message to me on my talk page.}} |
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| | {{BebopKate|time=20:34, July 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Wow, you guys...this looks well-organized and '''super AWESOME'''! I normally don't vote in stuff because I think at least one admin should maintain neutrality in case of disputes, but this is just for fun. If you guys run across any issues I can give you a hand with (page locking, troll-removing, etc.) please let me know.}} |
| | {{R&D|time=20:45, July 11, 2010 (UTC)|happy='''THANK YOU!!''' We did our best to make sure everything went well. And thanks for being willing to help <small>''(a few admins aren't)''</small>. Of vourse, I hope your help won't be necessary.}} |
| | {{R&D|time=23:50, July 18, 2010 (UTC)|dark=In response to the [[Forum:Bye-Bye, Mirage Arena|Bye-Bye, Mirage Arena]] forum and the opinions presented in it the Mirage Arena shall be put on hold. The constant complain about the flaws on the rules and the needs of improviment will be considered. The MA will return once the rules have been discussed and improved and everything be fixed and arranged. I'll leave another message once everything is done.}} |