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:::I'm kinda iffy about that. It's technically not Sora's Keyblade he uses, but rather the KoPH. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 23:06, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm kinda iffy about that. It's technically not Sora's Keyblade he uses, but rather the KoPH. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 23:06, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
:::I swear I read that in an interview, but I can't find it. Odd.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:59, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
:::I swear I read that in an interview, but I can't find it. Odd.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:59, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
== 商人 ⇒ 承認 ==
I changed the kanji from 商人 to 承認.  They were reverted back asking for a "source".  They both have the same reading(pronunciation) but have very different meanings.  Simple usage of Google Translate (or any decent online JP->English dictionary) would tell you that the 商人 is idiotic as it means trader/merchant(a person).  承認 means recognition, acknowledgment, approval.
Without even referring to "official sources", which do you think would be the right one?
マスター商人試験(Master Merchant Exam) or マスター承認試験(Master Qualification Exam)
If you're still not satisfied with my explanation, go get the game and see the kanji used for yourself.  Seriously, guys.  There are a lot of free online translator/dictionaries out there.
--[[Special:Contributions/121.96.141.79|121.96.141.79]] 12:13, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
{{Maggosh|text=...who ''are'' you?}}
== MoM, or MoM exam? ==
Which?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:55, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
:I'd go with Exam. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 18:57, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
They say Mark of Mastery exam in the game, so I think that is what we should use. - [[User:LevL|<span style="color:orange">'''Lev'''</span>]][[User talk:LevL|<span style="color:deepskyblue">'''L'''</span>]] 19:00, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, the actual ''Mark of Mastery'' is that emblem they all wear, right?[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 14:10, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, that's what I've come to believe. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 14:46, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
:::I always saw that symbol more like Eraqus' symbol considering Master Xehanort doesn't wear one and the trio all wear one without being masters, even aqua before the exam, and Ven doesn't wear it until he becomes Eraqus' pupil, not to mention it being the charm on his keyblade's keychain. I think the Mark is more symbolic then literal, considering both Xehanort and Eraqus talking about the pupils "showing" the mark--[[User:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#000000">Shadows</span>''']][[User talk:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#505050">Twilight</span>''']][[File:Χ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png|50px]] 17:01, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
== Is this true? ==
{{Nevfx|time=Here and now|text="Terra turned out victorious, as he had utilized his darkness to gain the upper hand." Is this true? It nevers shows who won the battle between Terra and Aqua, and Terra in fact IS NOT shown to use the darkness, it just shows itselfs when Aqua gains the upper hand. Should this line be changed?}}.
{{Maggosh|nathan=Your word against Master Eraqus's.}}
{{Nevfx|time=Here and now|text=He doesn't say that Terra USED the darkness, or that he beat Aqua.
Does he...?}}.
{{Maggosh|nathan=He does. Go see the cutscenes.}}
{{Nevfx|time=Here and now|text=No. He doesnt say Terra uses it. He just says he couldn't "keep it in check". It also is never shown who won or if anyone gained the upper hand. In fact, we see Aqua gaining the upper hand when she nearly gets Terra in the face.
I also do not think that by saying "keep it in check" he is implying Terra used the darkness, we only every see that aura around his hands, which he dismiss'.}}.
Like maggosh said, your word against Eraqus'. And probably Nomura's too. [[Special:Contributions/66.215.20.249|66.215.20.249]] 04:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
No, Eraqus only said that they both "performed commendably". The cutscene ends in when the fight has only just started, and the winner isn't mentioned. Terra seems to summon darkness subconciously and he gets rid of it as soon as he notices it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJDjnhtFKpk Link for great justice! (skip to about 3:20) [[Special:Contributions/193.60.78.34|193.60.78.34]] 01:55, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
== Coded ==
{{WS|time=13:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Should we add a section for Coded? I heard Yen Sid talking about giving Sora and Riku one of these tests. So should we add it?}}
{{Sac|text=Well, I think we should but I'm not the one to decide that. Ask Maggosh about it, he will change it if you're right.}}
{{WS|time=13:53, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay, thanks.}}
{{17m|time=13:54, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text= we should put a spoiler tag and unofficial translation tag, though}}
{{WS|time=13:56, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yeah, probably.}}
{{KrytenKoro|It needs to be written well, and without speculation. Previous attempts were reverted because they were very badly written, like a news blurb or something. Plus, we really do need confirmation on the legitimacy of that video.}}
{{WS|time=14:33, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, I can't confirm the video. But I can try writing it out. It'll probably be small, but it's worth a shot.}}
{{WS|time=15:34, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay, I added it. But because I'm new, I'm not sure how to add Spoiler Alerts or anything like that yet. I hope it's okay though, considering that's all that's been confirmed.}}
{{17m|time=[[User:17master|17master]] 15:49, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text= how do we confirm the legitimacy of a video?}}
{{WS|time=15:56, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'd either Google it or look for an official site. I can't do either because I can't write Japanese.}}
they call sora the keyblade master becuase he is the stronger version of ventus and ventus was unable to take the mark of mastery test but he interfears with aquas and terra
{{maggosh|flint=He's not a Keyblade Master, by any stretch of the imagination. Ventus is clearly superior to him. Sora can die for all I care.}}

Latest revision as of 16:07, 24 September 2011

When did this happen?[edit]

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Masgrande - If the world is made of light and darkness... We'll be the darkness.
TALK - You're gonna lose it all!
Why does the page says that Mickey and Sora became Keyblade Master on their own without taking the test, I haven't seen any proof in the games where it even suggest that Mickey became a master on his own without taking the test and since he has Master Yen Sid its even more doubtful that he did it alone as for Sora it's kind of difficult to say since they've been calling him a keyblade master since he got the keyblade.

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 00:08, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngI think this is more relevant to the Exam held by Eraqus. True, Mickey did train under Yen Sid in order to wield it, but he wasn't going through the exam that Terra and Aqua were.

As for Sora, Terra chose Riku, the one who was supposed to wield the Keyblade, not Sora, as his successor, giving Sora/Riku an ultimate free-bee or "pass". Since Sora obtained the blade rather than Riku, this explains his case. As for the reason he got it, it could be because Ventus lies dormant in his heart.

But that still doesn't explain Sora or Mickey being masters. I think Sora and Mickey simply are wielders, not full-fledged masters like Eraqus or Xehanort, at least not in the official sense. Besides, neither Terra nor Ven were masters.Xev154 00:03, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Nomura said that being able to unlock your own and others' hearts is an ability possessed only by masters. Hence, the Hollow Bastion scene verifies that Sora is a master.Glorious CHAOS! 06:36, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
That would make a good reference on the Sora article, and possibly this one as well, KrytenKoro. Do you have a link to the interview in which Nomura made that statement? --DTN Room Core.png 06:40, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
I'm kinda iffy about that. It's technically not Sora's Keyblade he uses, but rather the KoPH. Maggosh 23:06, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
I swear I read that in an interview, but I can't find it. Odd.Glorious CHAOS! 03:59, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

商人 ⇒ 承認[edit]

I changed the kanji from 商人 to 承認. They were reverted back asking for a "source". They both have the same reading(pronunciation) but have very different meanings. Simple usage of Google Translate (or any decent online JP->English dictionary) would tell you that the 商人 is idiotic as it means trader/merchant(a person). 承認 means recognition, acknowledgment, approval.

Without even referring to "official sources", which do you think would be the right one? マスター商人試験(Master Merchant Exam) or マスター承認試験(Master Qualification Exam)

If you're still not satisfied with my explanation, go get the game and see the kanji used for yourself. Seriously, guys. There are a lot of free online translator/dictionaries out there.

--121.96.141.79 12:13, June 13, 2010 (UTC)


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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

...who are you?

MoM, or MoM exam?[edit]

Which?Glorious CHAOS! 18:55, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'd go with Exam. maggosh 18:57, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

They say Mark of Mastery exam in the game, so I think that is what we should use. - LevL 19:00, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the actual Mark of Mastery is that emblem they all wear, right?(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 14:10, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I've come to believe. maggosh 14:46, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
I always saw that symbol more like Eraqus' symbol considering Master Xehanort doesn't wear one and the trio all wear one without being masters, even aqua before the exam, and Ven doesn't wear it until he becomes Eraqus' pupil, not to mention it being the charm on his keyblade's keychain. I think the Mark is more symbolic then literal, considering both Xehanort and Eraqus talking about the pupils "showing" the mark--ShadowsTwilightΧ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png 17:01, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Is this true?[edit]

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Nevfx - I'm new to this place!
TALK - Here and now
"Terra turned out victorious, as he had utilized his darkness to gain the upper hand." Is this true? It nevers shows who won the battle between Terra and Aqua, and Terra in fact IS NOT shown to use the darkness, it just shows itselfs when Aqua gains the upper hand. Should this line be changed?

.

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maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

Your word against Master Eraqus's.
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Nevfx - I'm new to this place!
TALK - Here and now
He doesn't say that Terra USED the darkness, or that he beat Aqua.

Does he...?

.

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maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

He does. Go see the cutscenes.
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Nevfx - I'm new to this place!
TALK - Here and now
No. He doesnt say Terra uses it. He just says he couldn't "keep it in check". It also is never shown who won or if anyone gained the upper hand. In fact, we see Aqua gaining the upper hand when she nearly gets Terra in the face.

I also do not think that by saying "keep it in check" he is implying Terra used the darkness, we only every see that aura around his hands, which he dismiss'.

.

Like maggosh said, your word against Eraqus'. And probably Nomura's too. 66.215.20.249 04:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

No, Eraqus only said that they both "performed commendably". The cutscene ends in when the fight has only just started, and the winner isn't mentioned. Terra seems to summon darkness subconciously and he gets rid of it as soon as he notices it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJDjnhtFKpk Link for great justice! (skip to about 3:20) 193.60.78.34 01:55, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Coded[edit]

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Wh!te$tarTALK"You're mixing your truths with your theories."

You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 13:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Should we add a section for Coded? I heard Yen Sid talking about giving Sora and Riku one of these tests. So should we add it?
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Secret agent clank - Good, let's see what you're made of.
TALK - Exactly what I said, idiot. - {{{time}}}
Void Gear (Vanitas) KHBBS.pngWell, I think we should but I'm not the one to decide that. Ask Maggosh about it, he will change it if you're right.
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Wh!te$tarTALK"You're mixing your truths with your theories."

You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 13:53, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.
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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera!
TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - 13:54, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
we should put a spoiler tag and unofficial translation tag, though
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Wh!te$tarTALK"You're mixing your truths with your theories."

You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 13:56, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, probably.
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KrytenKoro - "Space Corp Directive 195—In an emergency power situation, a hologrammatic crew member must lay down his life in order that the living crew members might survive."
 "Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly: 'No chance, you metal bastard.'"

TALK -
It needs to be written well, and without speculation. Previous attempts were reverted because they were very badly written, like a news blurb or something. Plus, we really do need confirmation on the legitimacy of that video.
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Wh!te$tarTALK"You're mixing your truths with your theories."

You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 14:33, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I can't confirm the video. But I can try writing it out. It'll probably be small, but it's worth a shot.
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Wh!te$tarTALK"You're mixing your truths with your theories."

You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 15:34, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I added it. But because I'm new, I'm not sure how to add Spoiler Alerts or anything like that yet. I hope it's okay though, considering that's all that's been confirmed.
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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera!
TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - 17master 15:49, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
how do we confirm the legitimacy of a video?
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Wh!te$tarTALK"You're mixing your truths with your theories."

You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 15:56, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'd either Google it or look for an official site. I can't do either because I can't write Japanese.

they call sora the keyblade master becuase he is the stronger version of ventus and ventus was unable to take the mark of mastery test but he interfears with aquas and terra


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maggosh ...the flint is struck. "Maybe I should punish you after all."

"Come on! Show a little backbone!"

He's not a Keyblade Master, by any stretch of the imagination. Ventus is clearly superior to him. Sora can die for all I care.