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{{TNE|time=00:55, October 21, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=I thought Radiant Garden was the hub for KHII ?}}
{{TNE|time=00:55, October 21, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=I thought Radiant Garden was the hub for KHII ?}}
{{yer mom|time=00:59, October 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well it's Hollow Bastion for almost the entire game, it just gets a change of name by the end. Why not put it as Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden?}}
{{yer mom|time=00:59, October 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well it's Hollow Bastion for almost the entire game, it just gets a change of name by the end. Why not put it as Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden?}}
{{GS|time=01:19, October 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=How come we don't just merge Radiant Garden and Hollow Bastion?}}
{{Maggosh|text=Because Hollow Bastion refers to the castle, only explored in KHI; Radiant Garden is the world as a whole.}}
{{GS|time=02:03, October 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=Not really.  The article we have here on the wiki even states the events that take place in the second game.  There's no point in having two articles for the same world, (and yes, it's the same world, just renamed.  It isn't just referring to the castle, at least not on here.)}}
It seems to me that the illustrated scene in the magazine scan takes place at dawn. If so, there would be a sort of series between Traverse Town, Twilight Town, and the Land of Departure: Night, Twilight, and Dawn. Not really important or noteworthy, but interesting nonetheless.
I don't see how it's a home world at all. It's inaccesible for most of the game and you can't explore hardly at all. If anything, Radiant Garden is the home world, but I honestly don't think there is a home world bbs[[User:AlVan|AlVan]] 17:40, 25 March 2011 (EDT)AlVan
:I think you're confusing "home world" with "hub world", which is something completely and utterly different.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:44, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
What I mean is, whenever something happens in one of the other games the characters can go back to their hub/home world and get help. These h/h worlds always have refuge, enemies, non-moogle shops, and plenty of exploration. This world has none of those things and so the only worlds that seam to fit that picture at all are Disney Town, Radiant Garden, and Mirage Arena {{unsigned|AlVan}}
A "Home World" is where you basically have your first side quest (think about Traverse Town, and Radiant Garden), and where you learn to battle excessivly (once again, think TT and RG).  Also, the non-Moogle shop argument is invalid, as both Twilight Town (a non- home world) and RG have non- Moogle owned shops in KHII.  {{The Inexistentsig}} 17:56, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
== Birth by Sleep Spoilers ==
Land of Departure = Castle Oblivion.
{{LOMI|Ghost=Then it's going to need a merger soon}}
== Aqua ==
{{EO|time=14:38, July 16, 2010 (UTC)|shocked=I haven't seen Aqua as a "boss" during the tutorial level. Only Terra and Ventus. Is there any proof regarding if she's fightable or not? I've only seen her fight Terra or Ven as a playable character. If she's not a boss, then the article is inaccurate, and the Aqua (Boss) page needs to be deleted.}}
{{LevL|time=14:50, July 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=She is fightable. You can see it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7vuzFk5XZA&feature=related here], at 6:30.}}
==i dont get it==
i dont get it.it says its introduced in chain of memories i thought it was introduced in birth by sleep.ill have a poll on that too[[Special:Contributions/65.32.75.73|65.32.75.73]] 22:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
What are you talking about there is no mention of CoM in the page--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 00:56, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
:It is lumped with Castle Oblivion in that sub-template because they are the same thing.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
== Mysterious Enemy? ==
{{RN867|time=1:55am ,Sept,03/10|ven=because the mysterious enemy is being added to the north american version of khbbs does that mean that you can go back to the land of departure even after it's destroyed???}}
{{Maggosh|nathan=Nope. You need a pre-destruction save file in order to fight it.}}
{{RN867|time=2:00am, Sept,03/10|ven=seriously but isnt the mysterious enemy like going the be like a super hard enemy how are you supposed to beat it at like low levels???}}
{{Xabryn|text=I'm not sure about tat maggosh I mean the guide said that Vanitas's Sentiment should be destroyed before fighting the Mysterious Enemy and to fight it we need to clear the game first and to clear the game we need to destroy Land of Departure
EDIT15:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC):Never Mind I just gave a better look at it:<!--[[File:Mysterious Figure Guide 00.jpg]]-->}}
{{ErryTalk|text=Maggosh, it is possible to go back to LoD even after it is destroyed. As shown here:
[http://i55.tinypic.com/nytcg2.jpg]
Thing is, you can't reach the main castle, only the outer parts, since they're the key places to get 100% treasure.}}
== Odd Savepoint ==
{{ErryTalk|text=Well this is odd, the LoD savepoint has 4 light orbs traveling around it, however the rest of them have 2 light orbs traveling around them. [http://i54.tinypic.com/4jos29.jpg]}}
== Nothingness? ==
{{Falcos|mask=Why is this in the category "Realm of Nothingness"? I was under the impression that it was in the Realm of Twilight. Was that contradicted in some  interview I haven't read?}}
:They are different names for the same thing - the realm between the Realm of Light and the Realm of Darkness. Other names include "Realm Between" and "Realm of In-Between".[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 17:28, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
{{Falcos|think=Okay... Quoting from the page [[Universe of Kingdom Hearts]]: "It can be conjectured that the Realm of Nothingness takes place outside of the planes and not in the between area." Wouldn't that make the Realm of Nothingness not the Realm of In-between?}}
:That...shouldn't be there. Nothing says that in the games.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 18:00, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
{{Falcos|mask=Okay... Want me to edit it out?}}
== 2 things ==
Why isn't there any treasure lists for ventus? And in settings and area there isn't any proper names of places- there are a few Rooms to move through. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
:Ventus doesn't get any treasures in his story from this world. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 20:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I remember a tutorial played as Ventus there where he gets treasure. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:43, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
== books ==
in the opening scenes some of the books ventus, room say Ultimania and Kingdom Hearts[[Special:Contributions/72.12.205.35|72.12.205.35]] 05:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Also please remove lea and ventus from the captcha, thats just not fair[[Special:Contributions/72.12.205.35|72.12.205.35]] 05:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
== The ==
MoM calls it "The Land of Departure". And I believe the "The" is also included in the Trinity Archives in BBS. So we should move this. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:55, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
:If that's what the game calls it, then agreed.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:11, 5 December 2020

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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

If LoD is the 'hub' of Birth By Sleep, not the first world we see, then it's conceivable that the game won't start here. In KHI, the first world was Destiny Islands, and in KHII, it was Twilight Town. So do you think BbS'll follow the same pattern?
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

I thought Twilight Town was the hub in KH2. Oh and I dunno about LoD.
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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Normally a hub doesn't disappear when you leave for another world. :P
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FA icon.png I thought Radiant Garden was the hub for KHII ?

This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:55, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

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Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!!
TALK - 00:59, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
Well it's Hollow Bastion for almost the entire game, it just gets a change of name by the end. Why not put it as Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden?
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 01:19, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png How come we don't just merge Radiant Garden and Hollow Bastion?
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maggosh Strike backwards... "That's a nice expression."

You're terrified, aren't you?

Because Hollow Bastion refers to the castle, only explored in KHI; Radiant Garden is the world as a whole.
DaysZexion.png
Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 02:03, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Keyblade-Blk.png Not really. The article we have here on the wiki even states the events that take place in the second game. There's no point in having two articles for the same world, (and yes, it's the same world, just renamed. It isn't just referring to the castle, at least not on here.)

It seems to me that the illustrated scene in the magazine scan takes place at dawn. If so, there would be a sort of series between Traverse Town, Twilight Town, and the Land of Departure: Night, Twilight, and Dawn. Not really important or noteworthy, but interesting nonetheless.

I don't see how it's a home world at all. It's inaccesible for most of the game and you can't explore hardly at all. If anything, Radiant Garden is the home world, but I honestly don't think there is a home world bbsAlVan 17:40, 25 March 2011 (EDT)AlVan

I think you're confusing "home world" with "hub world", which is something completely and utterly different. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:44, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

What I mean is, whenever something happens in one of the other games the characters can go back to their hub/home world and get help. These h/h worlds always have refuge, enemies, non-moogle shops, and plenty of exploration. This world has none of those things and so the only worlds that seam to fit that picture at all are Disney Town, Radiant Garden, and Mirage Arena —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlVan (talkcontribs)

A "Home World" is where you basically have your first side quest (think about Traverse Town, and Radiant Garden), and where you learn to battle excessivly (once again, think TT and RG). Also, the non-Moogle shop argument is invalid, as both Twilight Town (a non- home world) and RG have non- Moogle owned shops in KHII. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 17:56, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

Birth by Sleep Spoilers[edit]

Land of Departure = Castle Oblivion.


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LOMI, Voice of Nothing Master of Fiction
{{{1}}}

Aqua[edit]

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 14:38, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png I haven't seen Aqua as a "boss" during the tutorial level. Only Terra and Ventus. Is there any proof regarding if she's fightable or not? I've only seen her fight Terra or Ven as a playable character. If she's not a boss, then the article is inaccurate, and the Aqua (Boss) page needs to be deleted.
Symphony Master
LevL Fear my mighty instruments! — 14:50, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
She is fightable. You can see it here, at 6:30.

i dont get it[edit]

i dont get it.it says its introduced in chain of memories i thought it was introduced in birth by sleep.ill have a poll on that too65.32.75.73 22:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

What are you talking about there is no mention of CoM in the page--Xabryn 00:56, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

It is lumped with Castle Oblivion in that sub-template because they are the same thing.Glorious CHAOS! 01:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Mysterious Enemy?[edit]

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Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!
TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 1:55am ,Sept,03/10
Vsymbol.pngbecause the mysterious enemy is being added to the north american version of khbbs does that mean that you can go back to the land of departure even after it's destroyed???
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maggosh The steel is forged... "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

Nope. You need a pre-destruction save file in order to fight it.
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Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!
TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 2:00am, Sept,03/10
Vsymbol.pngseriously but isnt the mysterious enemy like going the be like a super hard enemy how are you supposed to beat it at like low levels???
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Xabryn - Golden Star Charm.pngI don't care if you're real!You're not better!
TALK - Mobile rikurep.pngIt's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}}
Heartless Emblem.pngI'm not sure about tat maggosh I mean the guide said that Vanitas's Sentiment should be destroyed before fighting the Mysterious Enemy and to fight it we need to clear the game first and to clear the game we need to destroy Land of Departure

EDIT15:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC):Never Mind I just gave a better look at it:


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Erry - Let me think about it.
TALK - Scherzo Di Notte ~ {{{time}}}
Maggosh, it is possible to go back to LoD even after it is destroyed. As shown here:

[1] Thing is, you can't reach the main castle, only the outer parts, since they're the key places to get 100% treasure.

Odd Savepoint[edit]

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Erry - Let me think about it.
TALK - Scherzo Di Notte ~ {{{time}}}
Well this is odd, the LoD savepoint has 4 light orbs traveling around it, however the rest of them have 2 light orbs traveling around them. [2]

Nothingness?[edit]

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Falcos - Ah, yes. Ventus.
TALK - Tell me something, has he learned to put up a decent fight yet?
Why is this in the category "Realm of Nothingness"? I was under the impression that it was in the Realm of Twilight. Was that contradicted in some interview I haven't read?
They are different names for the same thing - the realm between the Realm of Light and the Realm of Darkness. Other names include "Realm Between" and "Realm of In-Between".(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 17:28, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Falcos - Not bad at all. Congratulations.
TALK - I'll keep you around.
Okay... Quoting from the page Universe of Kingdom Hearts: "It can be conjectured that the Realm of Nothingness takes place outside of the planes and not in the between area." Wouldn't that make the Realm of Nothingness not the Realm of In-between?
That...shouldn't be there. Nothing says that in the games.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 18:00, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Falcos - Ah, yes. Ventus.
TALK - Tell me something, has he learned to put up a decent fight yet?
Okay... Want me to edit it out?

2 things[edit]

Why isn't there any treasure lists for ventus? And in settings and area there isn't any proper names of places- there are a few Rooms to move through. TheFifteenthMember 20:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Ventus doesn't get any treasures in his story from this world. You have wormed your way to the very nadir of repugnance. - Erry 20:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I remember a tutorial played as Ventus there where he gets treasure. TheFifteenthMember 18:43, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

books[edit]

in the opening scenes some of the books ventus, room say Ultimania and Kingdom Hearts72.12.205.35 05:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Also please remove lea and ventus from the captcha, thats just not fair72.12.205.35 05:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

The[edit]

MoM calls it "The Land of Departure". And I believe the "The" is also included in the Trinity Archives in BBS. So we should move this. TheSilentHero 10:55, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

If that's what the game calls it, then agreed.--NinjaSheik 04:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)