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==Stations of Oblivion and Rememberance== | ==Stations of Oblivion and Rememberance== | ||
{{NitrousX|xmastext=The article said that Marluxia was fought at the Station of Oblivion, and Larxene and Lexaeus are fought at the Station of Rememberance. What are these places? Are they in the Awakening?}} | {{NitrousX|xmastext=The article said that Marluxia was fought at the Station of Oblivion, and Larxene and Lexaeus are fought at the Station of Rememberance. What are these places? Are they in the Awakening?}} | ||
{{Maggosh|text=I think the Station of Oblivion is the pillar Marluxia is fought on in Re:CoM, and the same with the Station of Remembrance. I think they're in Castle Oblivion.}} | |||
== Information mistakenly placed at Cavern of Remembrance == | |||
The computer can be accessed at any time, but if there is any [[Absent Silhouette]] battle that hasn't been done yet, the data battle is inaccessible. Organization XIII bosses fought at [[The World That Never Was]] are inaccessible without clearing the game first. Defeating all the Data Battles causes a treasure chest containing the Non-Existent Proof to appear. | |||
:If I'm understanding this correctly, it should be something like: | |||
*The [[Garden of Assemblage]] contains thirteen portals to digital battles containing copies of the deceased [[Organization XIII]] members. The computer in the center of the garden must be accessed to unlock the portals; once each of the [[Absent Silhouette]]s has been defeated, the computer will unlock the appropriate set of doors, and once the [[Game Clear Data]] has been acquired, the remaining doors will be unlocked. | |||
For clarification: | |||
*Do you have to defeat ''all'' of the Absent Silhouettes before ''any'' of them will unlock, or if I only defeated Zexion, would I be able to use his Replica Data? | |||
*Are ''all'' of the KH2 members locked until Game Clear Data is acquired, or are Demyx (and possibly Xigbar and Roxas?) available before that point? | |||
If the answers to these are unknown, I can put off the Absent Silhouettes and attempt the Garden at my earliest convenience to confirm.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:51, December 16, 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Okay, so: | |||
#Each Absent Silhouette defeated instantly unlocks the respective Replica Data; they are not treated as a group. | |||
#Roxas, Xigbar, Luxord, Saix, and Xemnas do not appear until TWTNW has been completed by defeating Xemnas. | |||
::Further clarifications needed: | |||
*Is it defeating Axel at Twilight Town, or being there at his death in TWTNW that unlock him? | |||
*Is Demyx's portal unlocked as soon as he is defeated, or once the episode at HB is cleared? Is it even possible to backtrack to the cavern at this point, or before the episode is cleared? For Xaldin, the episode clear and boss fight are synonymous, so I'm almost leaning towards, rather than "defeating the boss", the requirement is "complete the episode or mission in which the boss is defeated", which would also cover the TWTNW bosses and ASs.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::{{D3xus|time=00:47, 7 January 2015 (UTC)|text= | |||
1. Axel's data battle is unlocked after his death at Betwixt and Between. | |||
2. Demyx's data battle is unlocked immediately after his defeat. Even if his data isn't unlocked until the episode is cleared, you have no way of accessing the Cavern of Remembrance immediately after his defeat because you go through the Heartless on the Ravine Trail, then the 1000 Heartless, then the episode is cleared.}} | |||
::For my understanding, how can we be sure it's his defeat that unlocked it, if we can't access the cave at all until the episode is cleared?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:03, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
Can't you go back after the Ravine Trail segment? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 04:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::I guess the question is then -- is there anyone who can unlock the Garden of Assemblage (perhaps through hacking, since you'd need LV3 aerial dodge and glide) as soon as it was available? Would Erry be able to do that?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== English shouts == | |||
In the 2.5 English release of KHIIFM, the shouts are slightly different then the japanese ones for the 5 Castle Oblivion members. Since there's no actual battle "quotes", is there a way we could implement this in the article? {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 04:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
Is there anything really to say about it? From the sounds of it, they use grunts and shouts from their Japanese VA's in the Japanese version, and grunts and shouts from their English VA's in the English version. Is there anything really noteworthy there?--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 05:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Actually, Larxene still uses some of her Japanese audio in the English version. Sometimes when her clones rush at Sora, and also when she charges electric power before using that spinning attack with the electric orbs. They also use archive audio from cutscenes. One of Larxene's laughs is from when she tells Sora "You're so much fun to watch," and Marluxia's dying yell obviously comes from Marluxia's death in ''Re:CoM." - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 05:14, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== English name == | |||
What is the source of "Data Rematch" as the name for the entities, rather than the quest?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:36, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
I believe it had came from the ''2.5 REMIX''. [http://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Organization_XIII_Data_Rematch&diff=next&oldid=653140 That anonymous user who always helped us out originally changed it] and removed the template. I already asked he/she to help provide a source, so we can until the user replies.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:04, 10 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
The only name I can find is the one given by the proof of nonexistance, which states "Organization XIII's replica data". The anon has not provided the source he used to move this page, so until he does, I'm moving it back.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
Yeah, that's fine. Correction: I moved the page, but he did the original edit. At the time, I was inclined to believe since he's helped so much. Since he's an anonymous user, he couldn't do it, so I did. The fault is mine since I believed him at the time since the ''REMIX''es came out and lots of things were changed in accordance to it, and he always looked like he knew what he was doing. I searched on YT, some videos were labeled as Data Rematch, but there's nothing in the videos I saw indicated that was the English name.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:46, 14 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Re Mind== | |||
It's just occurred to me that the term 再現データ is used in the Japanese version ''Re Mind'' to address the Limitcut Bosses, both when you enter a member's portal and in the boss's info bar, so we should probably add the information either here or on a new page. Also note that the English translation calls it '''Recreated Data''' in the portal selection, and simply called "data" in English. Should this be noted? [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] ([[User talk:Immblueversion|talk]]) 21:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Re Mind stats== | |||
Does someone on the wiki know of the stats for the boss articles of Re Mind? --[[User:Yellowlightning1996|Yellowlightning1996]] ([[User talk:Yellowlightning1996|talk]]) 02:08, 7 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Unfortunately, no. We get stats from the Ultimanias, and there's no Ultimania for Re Mind. It's very likely we'll never get the stats, like the BBSFM and 0.2 enemies. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:38, 7 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Re Mind symbols== | |||
Has anybody extracted the portal symbols from Re Mind to get the Real Organization XIII's Replica Data page off the ground? How were the symbols for this place found in the first place? Were they extracted from KH2 or scanned from a book? [[Special:Contributions/90.249.143.43|90.249.143.43]] 19:35, 14 March 2020 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 19:37, 14 March 2020
Organization XIII: Replica Data (XIII機関:再現データ XIII Kikan: Saigen Dēta )
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Are they they the same as a Absent Silhouette?[edit]
What the heck is "data" anyway? The only data replica and absent silhouette anyway is Larxene's.
- ...They are computer-based simulations of the boss battle. Hence, "Replica Data". It's pretty clear.Glorious CHAOS! 04:08, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Replica Data[edit]
--Naminépower 13:19, October 13, 2009 (UTC)Is it like a Replica the way the Riku Replica and Xion are and were?(Naminépower).
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Stations of Oblivion and Rememberance[edit]
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Information mistakenly placed at Cavern of Remembrance[edit]
The computer can be accessed at any time, but if there is any Absent Silhouette battle that hasn't been done yet, the data battle is inaccessible. Organization XIII bosses fought at The World That Never Was are inaccessible without clearing the game first. Defeating all the Data Battles causes a treasure chest containing the Non-Existent Proof to appear.
- If I'm understanding this correctly, it should be something like:
- The Garden of Assemblage contains thirteen portals to digital battles containing copies of the deceased Organization XIII members. The computer in the center of the garden must be accessed to unlock the portals; once each of the Absent Silhouettes has been defeated, the computer will unlock the appropriate set of doors, and once the Game Clear Data has been acquired, the remaining doors will be unlocked.
For clarification:
- Do you have to defeat all of the Absent Silhouettes before any of them will unlock, or if I only defeated Zexion, would I be able to use his Replica Data?
- Are all of the KH2 members locked until Game Clear Data is acquired, or are Demyx (and possibly Xigbar and Roxas?) available before that point?
If the answers to these are unknown, I can put off the Absent Silhouettes and attempt the Garden at my earliest convenience to confirm."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:51, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, so:
- Each Absent Silhouette defeated instantly unlocks the respective Replica Data; they are not treated as a group.
- Roxas, Xigbar, Luxord, Saix, and Xemnas do not appear until TWTNW has been completed by defeating Xemnas.
- Further clarifications needed:
- Is it defeating Axel at Twilight Town, or being there at his death in TWTNW that unlock him?
- Is Demyx's portal unlocked as soon as he is defeated, or once the episode at HB is cleared? Is it even possible to backtrack to the cavern at this point, or before the episode is cleared? For Xaldin, the episode clear and boss fight are synonymous, so I'm almost leaning towards, rather than "defeating the boss", the requirement is "complete the episode or mission in which the boss is defeated", which would also cover the TWTNW bosses and ASs."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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- For my understanding, how can we be sure it's his defeat that unlocked it, if we can't access the cave at all until the episode is cleared?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:03, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Can't you go back after the Ravine Trail segment? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 04:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- I guess the question is then -- is there anyone who can unlock the Garden of Assemblage (perhaps through hacking, since you'd need LV3 aerial dodge and glide) as soon as it was available? Would Erry be able to do that?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
English shouts[edit]
In the 2.5 English release of KHIIFM, the shouts are slightly different then the japanese ones for the 5 Castle Oblivion members. Since there's no actual battle "quotes", is there a way we could implement this in the article? Chainoffire 04:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Is there anything really to say about it? From the sounds of it, they use grunts and shouts from their Japanese VA's in the Japanese version, and grunts and shouts from their English VA's in the English version. Is there anything really noteworthy there?--ShadowsTwilight 05:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, Larxene still uses some of her Japanese audio in the English version. Sometimes when her clones rush at Sora, and also when she charges electric power before using that spinning attack with the electric orbs. They also use archive audio from cutscenes. One of Larxene's laughs is from when she tells Sora "You're so much fun to watch," and Marluxia's dying yell obviously comes from Marluxia's death in Re:CoM." - Eternal Nothingness XIII 05:14, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
English name[edit]
What is the source of "Data Rematch" as the name for the entities, rather than the quest?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:36, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I believe it had came from the 2.5 REMIX. That anonymous user who always helped us out originally changed it and removed the template. I already asked he/she to help provide a source, so we can until the user replies.--NinjaSheik 22:04, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
The only name I can find is the one given by the proof of nonexistance, which states "Organization XIII's replica data". The anon has not provided the source he used to move this page, so until he does, I'm moving it back."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 06:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, that's fine. Correction: I moved the page, but he did the original edit. At the time, I was inclined to believe since he's helped so much. Since he's an anonymous user, he couldn't do it, so I did. The fault is mine since I believed him at the time since the REMIXes came out and lots of things were changed in accordance to it, and he always looked like he knew what he was doing. I searched on YT, some videos were labeled as Data Rematch, but there's nothing in the videos I saw indicated that was the English name.--NinjaSheik 18:46, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Re Mind[edit]
It's just occurred to me that the term 再現データ is used in the Japanese version Re Mind to address the Limitcut Bosses, both when you enter a member's portal and in the boss's info bar, so we should probably add the information either here or on a new page. Also note that the English translation calls it Recreated Data in the portal selection, and simply called "data" in English. Should this be noted? Immblueversion (talk) 21:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Re Mind stats[edit]
Does someone on the wiki know of the stats for the boss articles of Re Mind? --Yellowlightning1996 (talk) 02:08, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, no. We get stats from the Ultimanias, and there's no Ultimania for Re Mind. It's very likely we'll never get the stats, like the BBSFM and 0.2 enemies. TheSilentHero 12:38, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Re Mind symbols[edit]
Has anybody extracted the portal symbols from Re Mind to get the Real Organization XIII's Replica Data page off the ground? How were the symbols for this place found in the first place? Were they extracted from KH2 or scanned from a book? 90.249.143.43 19:35, 14 March 2020 (UTC)