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I see. Sorry man. [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 23:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
I see. Sorry man. [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 23:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
"Strangely, Sabor possesses no magical abilities". Why, prey tell, is this strange? Not eberyone can pull fire from their ***. Coroxn-''The Lunar Brigade''
== Journal Entry? ==
Is there a reason this article doesn't have a journal entry? I see in the history there used to be one..Why did we remove it?--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 17:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Oh ya, what happened to it? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 23:10, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
:Look at the infobox.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:14, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
Oh ya...*Facepalm {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 10:34, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
== Optional battle at Tree House ==
Apparently if you go back to the Tree House, Sabor will create a hole in the floor that is useful in trapping Donald and Goofy during Agaricus attempts. Can anyone verify this (screenshots, maybe)?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
==Gender==
{{Uxie|time=08:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)|text=I just got the novel <small>(this won't change my opinion on the world; I'll still excommunicate it from canon)</small>, and Sora's battle with Sabor (where he is rescued by Tarzan) takes place, but this is Sabor's only appearance. She's referred to as "it" here, rather than "he" or "she".}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=You got the novel?! Cool~! How is it? I saw a copy at my Barnes & Noble stores, but I didn't get it since it was in poor condition (I'm a collector, so I like things in tip-top condition and refuse to get damaged goods). Anyway, on topic, there is already trivia pointing out the confusion on Sabor's gender. Personally, I'd rather go with using "it", but the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series label him as a male in spite the official ''Tarzan'' and it was decided to use "he" on the wiki a while back. So, maybe we should keep it like that, but mention that Sabor is refer to as an "it"?}}
{{Uxie|time=03:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)|zoe=The journal entry and the 2.5 guild refer to Sabor as a male, and the novel uses "it". However, the film itself never states Sabor's gender (though she's implied to be female), and the only time she's ever given a gender reference is Jiminy's Journal, which refers to her as a male. This issue is kinda like that of Seem from ''Jak 3''.
Frankly, I prefer to rewrite this article with gender-neutral pronunciation, but the journal is the problem. And the trivia should be rewritten to state that this is most likely the only canon where Sabor even has a gender, since her gender was never stated in the film, and the original novels have "Sabor" as a species rather than a single character.
And since you asked, I'm not really that fond of the novel. It's just a more simple retelling of the game's plot, with a ''lot'' of content, including all optional stuff, cut out (they even skipped over Halloween Town ''and'' Atlantica, when you only need to complete one of them to advance). The whole story would only make sense if you've already played the game.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=I'm fine with your idea, but what does everyone else think? In regards to the journal, however, I'm also okay with leaving it as "he", too.
Ah, really? That's a shame. :(}}
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)|default=Since games always trumps other media, it should be kept as "he", although its appearance in the novel should be noted somewhere...}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=As I mentioned previously, we already have a trivia regarding Sabor's gender, so we can mention it there. :)}}
Going back to that comment regarding the book, I have read it myself as well and it is explained that "Sabor" is actually a term applied to any and all lionesses in the Mangani language. Other feline names that are dropped include "Numa" (lion) and "Sheeta" (leopard), which were eventually used in The Legend of Tarzan animated series by Disney for two more leopards that appear, both of them being black panthers. So while the game may be referring to Sabor as male, the name as stated by Burroughs' estate means that the cat is female. --[[User:Tailikku|Tailikku]] ([[User talk:Tailikku|talk]]) 03:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
==Re:Skipping third fight with a cutscene==
According to the order of cutscenes/Deep Jungle's storyline, I'm assuming the cutscene the article speaks of is "Clayton." [http://kh13.com/videos/kingdom-hearts-hd-1-5-remix/eng-cut/ Cutscenes]. I cannot personally confirm though as my game systems are back home- not at college. {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} [[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 00:08, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 03:05, 15 August 2019

Hey Heart, Sora and Company don't encounter Sabor after they rescue Kairi. He's tougher when you try to get Clayton.Winxfan1 11:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Yeah, but the infobox does not have a place for the second set of stats. HeartOfOblivion 19:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I see. Sorry man. Winxfan1 23:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

"Strangely, Sabor possesses no magical abilities". Why, prey tell, is this strange? Not eberyone can pull fire from their ***. Coroxn-The Lunar Brigade

Journal Entry?[edit]

Is there a reason this article doesn't have a journal entry? I see in the history there used to be one..Why did we remove it?--Xion4ever 17:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh ya, what happened to it? Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 23:10, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the infobox.Glorious CHAOS! 00:14, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oh ya...*Facepalm Org13left.png Organization13 Org13right.png 10:34, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Optional battle at Tree House[edit]

Apparently if you go back to the Tree House, Sabor will create a hole in the floor that is useful in trapping Donald and Goofy during Agaricus attempts. Can anyone verify this (screenshots, maybe)?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Gender[edit]

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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 08:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
710MS.png I just got the novel (this won't change my opinion on the world; I'll still excommunicate it from canon), and Sora's battle with Sabor (where he is rescued by Tarzan) takes place, but this is Sabor's only appearance. She's referred to as "it" here, rather than "he" or "she".
Naminé (Live talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.gif
NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
You got the novel?! Cool~! How is it? I saw a copy at my Barnes & Noble stores, but I didn't get it since it was in poor condition (I'm a collector, so I like things in tip-top condition and refuse to get damaged goods). Anyway, on topic, there is already trivia pointing out the confusion on Sabor's gender. Personally, I'd rather go with using "it", but the Kingdom Hearts series label him as a male in spite the official Tarzan and it was decided to use "he" on the wiki a while back. So, maybe we should keep it like that, but mention that Sabor is refer to as an "it"?
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UxieLover1994 Cuando la vida te da las herramientas, a construir motos libración — 03:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
480MS.png The journal entry and the 2.5 guild refer to Sabor as a male, and the novel uses "it". However, the film itself never states Sabor's gender (though she's implied to be female), and the only time she's ever given a gender reference is Jiminy's Journal, which refers to her as a male. This issue is kinda like that of Seem from Jak 3.

Frankly, I prefer to rewrite this article with gender-neutral pronunciation, but the journal is the problem. And the trivia should be rewritten to state that this is most likely the only canon where Sabor even has a gender, since her gender was never stated in the film, and the original novels have "Sabor" as a species rather than a single character.

And since you asked, I'm not really that fond of the novel. It's just a more simple retelling of the game's plot, with a lot of content, including all optional stuff, cut out (they even skipped over Halloween Town and Atlantica, when you only need to complete one of them to advance). The whole story would only make sense if you've already played the game.

Naminé (Live talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.gif
NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
I'm fine with your idea, but what does everyone else think? In regards to the journal, however, I'm also okay with leaving it as "he", too.


Ah, really? That's a shame. :(

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TheFifteenthMember Yes. You're creepy. I can't say we'll miss you while you're gone, so it'd be best if you did go. We all win that way. TheFifteenthMember 19:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Since games always trumps other media, it should be kept as "he", although its appearance in the novel should be noted somewhere...
Naminé (Live talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.gif
NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you...
TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart...
As I mentioned previously, we already have a trivia regarding Sabor's gender, so we can mention it there. :)

Going back to that comment regarding the book, I have read it myself as well and it is explained that "Sabor" is actually a term applied to any and all lionesses in the Mangani language. Other feline names that are dropped include "Numa" (lion) and "Sheeta" (leopard), which were eventually used in The Legend of Tarzan animated series by Disney for two more leopards that appear, both of them being black panthers. So while the game may be referring to Sabor as male, the name as stated by Burroughs' estate means that the cat is female. --Tailikku (talk) 03:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Re:Skipping third fight with a cutscene[edit]

According to the order of cutscenes/Deep Jungle's storyline, I'm assuming the cutscene the article speaks of is "Clayton." Cutscenes. I cannot personally confirm though as my game systems are back home- not at college. Xion4ever Xion4ever 00:08, 28 May 2015 (UTC)