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== Just saying this cuz' I can ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= I personally think Hades turns pink when he is mad. Anyone else agree? }}
{{TNE|blahtext=And I think, rose madder ! :D}}
{{ghostboy3000|text= that color looks like solar flare red to me :D}}
== dumb versus wimpy ==
{{Pokhmon|time=10:08, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=how come pete managed to get to hades bu demyx didn't im surprise pede didnt fall of the edge of the path leading to hades }}
{{unbirthtalk|text=Pete was maleficent's messenger, Hades allowed him to get to him. Demyx was some kind of an intruder.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=04:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=Not to mention Demyx probably took the first chance he could get to take off.}}
==Main Image==
==Main Image==
{{Disneyvillainman|text=Since we have done the same with most other articles, should we not make the article's main image the one from BBS not KHII?}}
{{Disneyvillainman|text=Since we have done the same with most other articles, should we not make the article's main image the one from BBS not KHII?}}
{{Disneyvillainman|text=If no one cares to dispute, I'm going to go ahead with it.}}
{{Disneyvillainman|text=If no one cares to dispute, I'm going to go ahead with it.}}


== Hades and Final Fantasy? ==
== Possibly usable notes - please review to cut down on purple prose and script regurgitation ==
 
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 03:25, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text= Is it just me, or does Hades ALWAYS try to use Final Fantasy characters to try and do something. I tried adding something like this to the Trivia section, but somebody took it down.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=03:29, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=He knows no Disney hero can stand against them, and is a litle afriad of them himself, that's why he has to control them. At least that's what I'd like to think. What exactly did the trivia piece you tried to add say?}}
 
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 04:52, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text= It said something like "Hades seems to use Final Fantasy characters  to try and take down Hercules." or something along those lines. Basically I just said he always attempts to use Final Fantasy characters. I can't remember the exact wording, but that was the gist of it. I may have also said and sora, but again i can't remember. It was nothing that seemed like it went against the wiki's rules and everything}} {{LapisScarab|time=04:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=It might have been considered a bit too vague or redundant to the rest of the article, since the story section explains Hades' plots in detail.}}
 
{{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 04:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|text= true but when i posted it, it was like saying he has a tendency to. and trivia is just that, little bits of insight into a person and their personality. but thanks for explaining why it got taken down LapisScarab. it helps to know why something's removed}}
 
I put something along the lines of "in almost all his appearances Hades attempts to use someone from Final Fantasy to defeat Hercules. In Kingdom Hearts, Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts Coded, it is Cloud, and in Kingdom Hearts 2, it is Auron.([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 03:55, April 16, 2010 (UTC))
 
== Hades is not the hardest boss. ==


I think that there is no contest Hades is not the most difficult Disney Boss. He was actually the second easiest in my humble opinion. The first was the first Malefient battle. Even if it is arguably, I think that should be taken off. ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 04:05, April 16, 2010 (UTC))
--BbS--


== After the battle... ==
Still building up his army, Hades noticed a strong dark and brooding warrior outside the Coliseum - [[Terra]]. Pretending to offer Terra the chance to learn how to master the darkness, Hades signed him up for the Games in the hopes that combat would force Terra to rely on his darkness and grow stronger. However, when it appeared that this wasn't going to work, Hades decided to manipulate Terra's final opponent [[Zack]] by controlling his darkness. However, Terra freed Zack, prompting Hades to give up on his plans and flee.


Does anyone know who it is that beats up Hades after you defeat him in KH? I thought it was Cerberus but he was Hades's loyal pet, so it wouldn't have been him. ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 23:41, April 24, 2010 (UTC))
When [[Aqua]] arrived, Hades has been winning in the West bracket, earning the right to challenge the East bracket winner for the championship. Deciding to check out who his opponent is, Hades appears before Aqua, finding that she's just a "little bluebird". He makes the mistake of insulting Terra, by calling him a coward for not using his darkness. Facing off with Aqua, Hades called in a copy of the [[Ice Titan]] called the [[Ice Colossus]] as his back-up. However, Aqua defeated him, and Hades decides that he needed a real titan if he wants to take out heroes like Aqua and Terra.


If I remember well Sora throw him at the door to the underworld(at least what I think to be the Door to the underworld in KH1) that is the place Cerberus appear from in his first batlle so in other words yes it was Cerberus--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 02:02, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
--KH--
He later attends the meeting to discuss Jafar's defeat, where Maleficent again warns him about succumbing to darkness. Hades rebuffs the statement, instead helping her inform Riku that they have kept their end of the deal and located Kairi.


== I feel embarrased saying this, but... ==
==James Woods's Confirmation for KHIII==
Well, it's not an ''explicit'' confirmation, per se, but it's pretty obvious that he's working on KHIII. [https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/979531748374544384 Just putting the tweet here for future reference, to abide to our policy].--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:14, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


The fisrt time I beat Hades, (deep breath)I thought he was saying This isn't PEPPERMINT! Still, I bet it heaps of people havemade that mistake. I bet that retard Bananaphone1996 did. God he sounds lame, just by looking at his user page. And what a dumb name.([[Special:Contributions/222.155.89.163|222.155.89.163]] 21:21, May 21, 2010 (UTC))
==Unlock==
Can someone please unlock the article? It's been long enough and it could use some updating. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 03:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
:If a page is locked, changes to the page should be brought up on the talk page. What updating are you suggesting?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


Hey now, that isn't very nice.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:31, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
::There's no reason for it to be locked anymore. That should be enough of a reason for it to be unlocked, I shouldn't have to justify it with further reasons, but here's three:
:*Hades will be in KH3, so it should be unlocked so people can help with KH3 eventually. You may say "but we can simply unlock it when KH3 is released", but it's always nice to prepare.
:*I would like to move images from his Gallery to illustrate the text.
:*Chain of Memories category is broken.


:Yes, do you have a point besides unnecessarily bad-mouthing a user?  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 21:32, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
::And I've occasionally stopped by the article a few times for other edits I can't remember right now. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 14:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
:::The first reason you gave is specifically why it was locked in the first place. It's ''not'' "always nice to prepare" when there is a history of multiple editors repeatedly using the opportunity to "prepare" to instead violate policy, which is why the page was locked. Pages don't get locked willy-nilly, they get locked when people were misbehaving, and get reopened when the opportunity to misbehave has passed by.
:::By wiki policy, there's nothing that ''can'' be prepared in advance of the game's release, beyond something like "SE has confirmed Hades will appear in KH3, within Olympus." or something similar. Is that what you're proposing to add?
:::Yes, you should have to justify it. That's how locking pages works, on wikipedia or any other wiki. I can't edit it anymore than you can, so I have to give a request to the admins of what changes I'd like to make, and they'll either perform the change themselves, or they'll decide the article is now safe and unlock it.
::::Mods: re: "broken category", this is due to the infobox using "Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories" instead of "Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories". Please make sure to include this change in your next AWB sweep.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I think we can unlock this page. There are other pages on characters that are confirmed for KH3 that are not protected, and aren't edited to add that information. However, I'd like to hear the opinion of other admins first.
:::::I actually did another AWB sweep yesterday, since I noticed there were some pages still using the colon, but I guess it must have skipped this page, because it's protected. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::It's fine to unlock. There haven't been any incidents lately on the wiki in regards to the other KHIII characters' pages, and Hade's page has locked been locked over a year now. So, I say go for it, THS.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:55, 21 August 2018

Main Image[edit]

DaysHadesTalk.png
Disneyvillainman - Hades (card).png I'm what you might call an expert in the art of Darkness.
TALK - Rather a stubborn ol' goat, wouldn't ya say?
Other Emblem.png Since we have done the same with most other articles, should we not make the article's main image the one from BBS not KHII?
DaysHadesTalk.png
Disneyvillainman - Hades (card).png I'm what you might call an expert in the art of Darkness.
TALK - Rather a stubborn ol' goat, wouldn't ya say?
Other Emblem.png If no one cares to dispute, I'm going to go ahead with it.

Possibly usable notes - please review to cut down on purple prose and script regurgitation[edit]

--BbS--

Still building up his army, Hades noticed a strong dark and brooding warrior outside the Coliseum - Terra. Pretending to offer Terra the chance to learn how to master the darkness, Hades signed him up for the Games in the hopes that combat would force Terra to rely on his darkness and grow stronger. However, when it appeared that this wasn't going to work, Hades decided to manipulate Terra's final opponent Zack by controlling his darkness. However, Terra freed Zack, prompting Hades to give up on his plans and flee.

When Aqua arrived, Hades has been winning in the West bracket, earning the right to challenge the East bracket winner for the championship. Deciding to check out who his opponent is, Hades appears before Aqua, finding that she's just a "little bluebird". He makes the mistake of insulting Terra, by calling him a coward for not using his darkness. Facing off with Aqua, Hades called in a copy of the Ice Titan called the Ice Colossus as his back-up. However, Aqua defeated him, and Hades decides that he needed a real titan if he wants to take out heroes like Aqua and Terra.

--KH-- He later attends the meeting to discuss Jafar's defeat, where Maleficent again warns him about succumbing to darkness. Hades rebuffs the statement, instead helping her inform Riku that they have kept their end of the deal and located Kairi.

James Woods's Confirmation for KHIII[edit]

Well, it's not an explicit confirmation, per se, but it's pretty obvious that he's working on KHIII. Just putting the tweet here for future reference, to abide to our policy.--NinjaSheik 20:14, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Unlock[edit]

Can someone please unlock the article? It's been long enough and it could use some updating. Soroxas (talk) 03:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

If a page is locked, changes to the page should be brought up on the talk page. What updating are you suggesting?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
There's no reason for it to be locked anymore. That should be enough of a reason for it to be unlocked, I shouldn't have to justify it with further reasons, but here's three:
  • Hades will be in KH3, so it should be unlocked so people can help with KH3 eventually. You may say "but we can simply unlock it when KH3 is released", but it's always nice to prepare.
  • I would like to move images from his Gallery to illustrate the text.
  • Chain of Memories category is broken.
And I've occasionally stopped by the article a few times for other edits I can't remember right now. Soroxas (talk) 14:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
The first reason you gave is specifically why it was locked in the first place. It's not "always nice to prepare" when there is a history of multiple editors repeatedly using the opportunity to "prepare" to instead violate policy, which is why the page was locked. Pages don't get locked willy-nilly, they get locked when people were misbehaving, and get reopened when the opportunity to misbehave has passed by.
By wiki policy, there's nothing that can be prepared in advance of the game's release, beyond something like "SE has confirmed Hades will appear in KH3, within Olympus." or something similar. Is that what you're proposing to add?
Yes, you should have to justify it. That's how locking pages works, on wikipedia or any other wiki. I can't edit it anymore than you can, so I have to give a request to the admins of what changes I'd like to make, and they'll either perform the change themselves, or they'll decide the article is now safe and unlock it.
Mods: re: "broken category", this is due to the infobox using "Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories" instead of "Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories". Please make sure to include this change in your next AWB sweep."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Personally, I think we can unlock this page. There are other pages on characters that are confirmed for KH3 that are not protected, and aren't edited to add that information. However, I'd like to hear the opinion of other admins first.
I actually did another AWB sweep yesterday, since I noticed there were some pages still using the colon, but I guess it must have skipped this page, because it's protected. TheSilentHero 16:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
It's fine to unlock. There haven't been any incidents lately on the wiki in regards to the other KHIII characters' pages, and Hade's page has locked been locked over a year now. So, I say go for it, THS.--NinjaSheik 19:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)