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We can clearly see that the keychain isn't Naminé's lucky charm, but Kairi's, altough it's more blue colored (but as far as I know one side is blue, the other pink, isn't it ?).}}
We can clearly see that the keychain isn't Naminé's lucky charm, but Kairi's, altough it's more blue colored (but as far as I know one side is blue, the other pink, isn't it ?).}}
{{TNE|time=05:57, October 19, 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm not sure... for Kairi's lucky charm, we only see the pink side. Always. I mean, this is '''blue''' as blue can be.}}
Yea, well it seems to have been given an updated design. The Days picture shows 2 different keychains, the Bule one and Kairi's charm. I think it's safe to say that while Roxas has an Oathkeeper it's not Sora's Oathkeeper. [[User:Hyperwire 2.0|Hyperwre_2.0]] 20:28, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


== Charm ==
== Charm ==
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{{unbirthtalk|text=Roxas and Sora are one only person now, so even if Roxas was able to wield it, he wouldn't be able to leave Sora's body.}}
{{unbirthtalk|text=Roxas and Sora are one only person now, so even if Roxas was able to wield it, he wouldn't be able to leave Sora's body.}}
{{KrytenKoro|So? My point was that the physical token clearly doesn't need to remain in their possession to continue using the Keyblade form.}}
{{KrytenKoro|So? My point was that the physical token clearly doesn't need to remain in their possession to continue using the Keyblade form.}}
{{TNE|time=03:53, October 30, 2009 (UTC)|text='''Roxas''''s story takes place '''before''' Sora's. Remember what time frame ''Days'' is in. Unless Oathkeeper is a shared property to be seen in a later game, I reckon it wouldn't be in use.}}


== 358/2 Days Useage ==
== 358/2 Days Useage ==
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{{EO|time=22:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)|talktext=As Xiggie and DTN so skillfully work on their project, the Keyblades that appear in Days and other games are beginning to look a tad messy. Can someone please starighten these out?}}
{{EO|time=22:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)|talktext=As Xiggie and DTN so skillfully work on their project, the Keyblades that appear in Days and other games are beginning to look a tad messy. Can someone please starighten these out?}}
{{TNE|time=05:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=What exactly happened to the tabs ? Were they not implemented here ?}}
{{TNE|time=05:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=What exactly happened to the tabs ? Were they not implemented here ?}}
== Re:coded ==
{{RN867|time=3:41pm/October 14, 2010|ven= i was just wondering if data sora can use this keyblade in re:coded or if only roxas can???}}
Yeah, Sora can get it after beating Roxas. I'm not sure if there are conditions, but it's at least possible. <!--At any rate, that question was not worth three question marks...--> --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 19:52, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
I saw a video where Data Sora beats Roxas with Oblivion, then he gets Oathkeeper. Does this mean in Re:coded Oathkeeper is stronger than Oblivion? --Evnyofdeath 20:26, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
{{RN867|time=4:27|ven=well since sora can use it in re:coded im guessing that its maybe more balanced than the oblivion and not more powerful in terms of strength}}
{{Pea14733|time=17:55, October 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=No. In Re:coded, there's no status on the the Keyblades. Instead, they have different overclock ability. Oblivion has many offensive abilities while Oathkeeper has many Defensive ones. See [[User:Pea14733/Re:coded#過ぎ去りし思い出 「PASSING MEMORIES」 Oblivion|here]].}}
So, do you have to beat Data Roxas with Oblivion in order to get Oathkeeper? --[[User:NobodyReplica13|NobodyReplica13]]
:No, you just need to get a score of over 40,000 to get it. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 23:17, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
{{Al1996|time=[[User:Al1996|Al1996]] 00:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)|text=what do you mean score?}}
::I forget how it's calculated, but you earn points upon completing an episode.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 05:52, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
::It's based on time taken in the boss fight, how much HP you lost (more points for less loss), and other possible factors. In Data-Roxas's case, I think you just have to beat him quickly, and not get totally murdered - I got Oathkeeper on my first try, and Roxas was pretty efficiently hurting me.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:12, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
== "KH3 appearances" ==
{{UnknownChaser|time=02:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC)|yellow=I know someone is gonna bring this up at some point during the week and Square Enix may or may not released the LA Event trailer, depending on how trolly they feel. But different sites are reporting different things about Oathkeeper, some sites are saying that Sora is using Oathkeeper to transform into a cannon, while others are saying hes using a "angel-winged" Keyblade to transform into the cannon.
What do?}}
{{EO|time=02:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)|text=Until and unless the trailer or images of it are released outside of the event at which it was featured, there is nothing we can do. No mention of the Oathkeeper appearing in ''KHIII'' needs to be made on the article until there are actual images or videos to back it up, regardless of what people are saying.}}
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=03:47, 3 December 2014 (UTC)|christmas=Agreed. I think it was at first believed to be Oathkeeper, and now they realize it isn't necessarily. Just like how at first they were reporting that the world shown was Land of Departure, and now th]ey're saying it has chain designs similar to Land of Departure, but that it isn't actually the Land of Departure (Think they said it had was subtitled "Cable Town").}}
{{Chainoffire|time={{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 05:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)|normal=Plus the trailer was said to be "Raw" and not containing any official renders. Just like he was given the Valor form clothes in the trailer, he might not even be able to wield the Oathkeeper in KHIII. Even if he can, we don't know if that's the keyblade that can transform into the guns, it could end up transforming into the train or pirate ship for all we know. And since it was in a closed theater that no one from here attended, we can't use anything as a source, since the closest thing we have to an official source is sites like KH13 or KHInsider, and those are second hand sites.}}
{{UnknownChaser|time=20:05, 3 December 2014 (UTC)|yellow=Thats what I figure as well, wait till theres an actual visual confirmation. I knew someone was gonna bring the trailer up at some time, just wanna get the fact straight on where we stand with it.}}

Latest revision as of 20:05, 3 December 2014

Difference ?[edit]

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Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

Are there really those differences between Sora's and Roxas's ? I never saw anything like that.


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FA icon.png A very slight difference in colour. Roxas' Oathkeeper is silver-hued. Though I'm not sure about the keychain - it looked the same to me.

Anyone with a PS2 (and a Final Mix+ scene player, perhaps) can clear this out for us ? Please ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

DaysJack.png
Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

Here is a screeshot I took from a video:

Mission 93 02 KHD.png

We can clearly see that the keychain isn't Naminé's lucky charm, but Kairi's, altough it's more blue colored (but as far as I know one side is blue, the other pink, isn't it ?).

Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png I'm not sure... for Kairi's lucky charm, we only see the pink side. Always. I mean, this is blue as blue can be.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 05:57, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yea, well it seems to have been given an updated design. The Days picture shows 2 different keychains, the Bule one and Kairi's charm. I think it's safe to say that while Roxas has an Oathkeeper it's not Sora's Oathkeeper. Hyperwre_2.0 20:28, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Charm[edit]

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KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy."
TALK -
"Since Oathkeeper's Keychain is Kairi's good luck charm, it could be suggested that Sora will no longer wield Oathkeeper after the events of Kingdom Hearts II, as Sora gave it back to Kairi."

That didn't exactly stop Roxas from using it though, did it? Why exactly would it take it away from Sora?

DaysJack.png
Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

Roxas and Sora are one only person now, so even if Roxas was able to wield it, he wouldn't be able to leave Sora's body.
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KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy."
TALK -
So? My point was that the physical token clearly doesn't need to remain in their possession to continue using the Keyblade form.
Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png Roxas's story takes place before Sora's. Remember what time frame Days is in. Unless Oathkeeper is a shared property to be seen in a later game, I reckon it wouldn't be in use.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:53, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

358/2 Days Useage[edit]

How is Oathkeeper equipped in 358/2 Days, that is, if it CAN be.

You equip the Zero Gear(5) and add an ability to it--ShadowsTwilight 22:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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LotsoBearLover - Kingdom Key KHD.pngWelcome to sunnyside!
TALK - You've got a playdate with destiny!"
Naminé's Notebook KHII.png yes that is how u do it

Crammed[edit]

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 22:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png As Xiggie and DTN so skillfully work on their project, the Keyblades that appear in Days and other games are beginning to look a tad messy. Can someone please starighten these out?
Symbol - Whirl.png
FA icon.png What exactly happened to the tabs ? Were they not implemented here ?

This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. TroisNyxÉtienne — 05:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Re:coded[edit]

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Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!
TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 3:41pm/October 14, 2010
Vsymbol.pngi was just wondering if data sora can use this keyblade in re:coded or if only roxas can???

Yeah, Sora can get it after beating Roxas. I'm not sure if there are conditions, but it's at least possible. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 19:52, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I saw a video where Data Sora beats Roxas with Oblivion, then he gets Oathkeeper. Does this mean in Re:coded Oathkeeper is stronger than Oblivion? --Evnyofdeath 20:26, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

VentusTalkHappyLA_zps359f72f3.png
Roxnick867 - My friends are my power, and I'm theirs!
TALK - I'm asking you as a friend, just... put an end to me. 4:27
Vsymbol.pngwell since sora can use it in re:coded im guessing that its maybe more balanced than the oblivion and not more powerful in terms of strength


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Pea14733 Freeze! — 17:55, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
BlizzardRCOBlue.png No. In Re:coded, there's no status on the the Keyblades. Instead, they have different overclock ability. Oblivion has many offensive abilities while Oathkeeper has many Defensive ones. See here.

So, do you have to beat Data Roxas with Oblivion in order to get Oathkeeper? --NobodyReplica13

No, you just need to get a score of over 40,000 to get it. Ay, dios mio! I might be late tomorrow. - Erry 23:17, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
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Raxz - Darkness is my weapon.
TALK - Al1996 00:56, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
what do you mean score?
I forget how it's calculated, but you earn points upon completing an episode.—Urutapu 05:52, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
It's based on time taken in the boss fight, how much HP you lost (more points for less loss), and other possible factors. In Data-Roxas's case, I think you just have to beat him quickly, and not get totally murdered - I got Oathkeeper on my first try, and Roxas was pretty efficiently hurting me."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:12, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

"KH3 appearances"[edit]

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UnknownChaser —— I Burn.— 02:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I know someone is gonna bring this up at some point during the week and Square Enix may or may not released the LA Event trailer, depending on how trolly they feel. But different sites are reporting different things about Oathkeeper, some sites are saying that Sora is using Oathkeeper to transform into a cannon, while others are saying hes using a "angel-winged" Keyblade to transform into the cannon.

What do?

TerraTalk1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 02:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngUntil and unless the trailer or images of it are released outside of the event at which it was featured, there is nothing we can do. No mention of the Oathkeeper appearing in KHIII needs to be made on the article until there are actual images or videos to back it up, regardless of what people are saying.


Sora Wisdom CT Sprite KHIIFM.png
KeybladeSpyMaster - It's good friends and warm wishes that makes this the best Christmas of all!
TALK - tumblr_static_png-transparent-snowflakes.png - Merry Christmas! - 08:47 PM Tue, December 2, 2014 MST
Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png Agreed. I think it was at first believed to be Oathkeeper, and now they realize it isn't necessarily. Just like how at first they were reporting that the world shown was Land of Departure, and now th]ey're saying it has chain designs similar to Land of Departure, but that it isn't actually the Land of Departure (Think they said it had was subtitled "Cable Town"). Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png


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Chainoffire - "Hey, wait... I'm enjoying this. You guys are something else!"
TALK - :) Eternal Flames KHD.pngChainoffirePizza Cut KHD.png 05:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Eternal Flames KHD.png Plus the trailer was said to be "Raw" and not containing any official renders. Just like he was given the Valor form clothes in the trailer, he might not even be able to wield the Oathkeeper in KHIII. Even if he can, we don't know if that's the keyblade that can transform into the guns, it could end up transforming into the train or pirate ship for all we know. And since it was in a closed theater that no one from here attended, we can't use anything as a source, since the closest thing we have to an official source is sites like KH13 or KHInsider, and those are second hand sites. Eternal Flames KHD.png


FphUoKs.png
UnknownChaser —— I Burn.— 20:05, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Thats what I figure as well, wait till theres an actual visual confirmation. I knew someone was gonna bring the trailer up at some time, just wanna get the fact straight on where we stand with it.