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==Um, help ? The gallery view isn't working ?==
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{{R&D|time=19:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't think he goes back to the real one. He is absorbed by Sora through the Simulated Twilight Town.}}
{{R&D|time=19:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't think he goes back to the real one. He is absorbed by Sora through the Simulated Twilight Town.}}
== Nobodies' birthplace? ==
The article says that Twilight Town is the birthplace of all Nobodies; however, we only see this with regards to Roxas. When is it mentioned or implied that the other Organization members, or any other Nobodies, were "born" in Twilight Town? I don't remember that being insinuated at all (but then again, it's been a long time), so I think a citation would be useful.
---lurker
:Bumping this up again. As far as I know, this is true only about Roxas. There's nothing that even remotely implies that anyone else was "born" in Twilight Town. But I haven't played ''358/2 Days'', so I could be wrong. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 00:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
::Ditto. I don't recall this ever being mentioned in the game, and I checked the transcript game, and nothing comes up with it being the birthplace for all Nobodies. Since there isn't a source, we should take this out.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
== Possible desert? ==
When me and my friend were exploring Twilight Town, we realized: in the distance one way (game's not working, can't find it) we noticed one of the hills was a different color. Now, I know that there's a beach, but this dune would be far too large. It was the same height as the normal hills, which you can guess are quite large. This got me thinking, as did my friend.
It is possible that there is a desert in one direction? TT is, I believe, cut into a mountain. Rain shadow effects exist, yes? So, am I the only one who noticed this?
-Lurker
== BETWIXT AND BETWEEN (AGAIN) ==
{{NitrousX|text=I've said this before but no one has listened. There is no Betwixt and Between page! Typing it in just redirects me here and it doesn't have anything about it! So where has this page gone????}}
:The game considers it part of Twilight Town, so it should be mentioned in the areas section.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:03, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
::But that's just it. It's not there. --[[User:Nitrous X|Nitrous X]] 01:33, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
::Should it be a part of the Simulated Twilight Town page, since it is accessed from there? --[[User:RoxasNobody|RoxasNobody]] 21:41, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
== True Perpetual Twilight? ==
Is it safe to assume that this world is always in a form of twilight, or is that just how one perceives the scenes they are seeing? (I know that is what the name says, but it could be saying it has the 'attitude' of twilight in being mild, and having a beautiful one when it comes) [[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 21:38, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
:The journals call it a world of perpetual twilight. Hence, the ''name''.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 09:57, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
== Heartless or Nobodies? ==
{{CaelumLucisCaliga|time=04:20, July 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Ok, in ''Days'', we see TT FILLED with Heartless. But in ''Kingdom Hearts II'', there aren't Heartless at all (except at one portion in Yen Sid's Tower) and it's covered with Nobodies (after Sora's first visit with Yen Sid, if he comes back there's Nobodies). I get that in ''Days'' it's to get hearts and Org XIII wouldn't want Roxas to kill one of his own, but why wouldn't there be Heartless in ''KHII''? I mean Sora has a keyblade too. Wow I can't believe how long this is. So long question short, why are there Nobodies in Twilight Town but not Heartless?}}
== BETWIXT AND BETWEEN ONCE AGAIN (Seriously?!) ==
So, typing in "Betwixt and Between" into the search bar brought me here, but the article NEVER mentions it at all. So I added it in only to have it undone. What do you people have against Betwixt and Between?! I don't understand it! --[[Special:Contributions/216.74.216.217|216.74.216.217]] 16:04, 19 February 2011 (EST)
Also, whenever there an editor tries to add it into the page, it is almost immediately undone with no explanation.  Why is this? {{User:RoxasNobody/sig}}
:If you want the pages to be improved, you can't just undo edits as soon as they are made! --[[Special:Contributions/216.74.216.217|216.74.216.217]] 16:11, 19 February 2011 (EST)
::Betwixt and Between is part of [[The Old Mansion]], so it's covered there. I'm fixing the redirect now.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:03, 23 February 2011 (EST)
:Thank you very much. :) --[[Special:Contributions/216.74.216.217|216.74.216.217]] 22:06, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
== Days Tracks ==
Do we really have to say that the Days tracks are "(title unannounced)"? They're exactly the same as KH2 and CoM. I realize that the tracks are slightly different, but they are obviously the same songs. [[Special:Contributions/71.92.202.190|71.92.202.190]] 00:58, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:Boss Music#TBA Titles]]. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 01:04, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
== garbage lot ==
is called Tram Common Repository according to a poster outside the usual spot. also, s/b "famous" struggle battle.[[Special:Contributions/72.12.205.35|72.12.205.35]] 05:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Are you referring to the Tram Common we have bolded on our page? Just checking to be sure. There isn't anything on the areas that says Garbage Lot.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:07, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
::Not the room, just the little cubby where you play the garbage game. A poster that appears across town calls it the "Tram Common Repository".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
== World ==
Why don't we have an image of the world in KHII or KHD?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
:Probably because it looks the same, and it appears first in CoM.  {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:53, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
::At the very least the image quality should be different.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
:::But from where should we get it?  I looked through the textures Shard sent me, and there's nothing.  They're all 3D models.  ...But, ''there's'' an idea.  What we ''could'' do is dump the models, load them into a viewer then just export as static images.  [http://www.khwiki.com/images/6/64/Master_Xehanort_%28Young%29_KHBBS.png I mean, that's exactly what happened here].  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 13:36, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
::::According to the Gallery, it is actually from ReCoM, which could have the same quality as KHII. As for getting the image, we would have to do it the same way we got the other KHII world images. (Not sure how we got those, though. Maybe from Ultimania scans?) {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:11, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::The only time the world image appears in KHII is in Jiminy's journal, in a very, very small resolution and a bigger but incomplete one (the background when the world is selected in the journal). There is nothing HD about them in the HD versions so all in all they are useless. We only have scans for the KHII world images of Hollow Bastion, Atlantica, Disney Castle, Halloween Town, Olympus Coliseum and TWTNW, you can all see that the quality is not that good simply because the quality in the Ultimanias is not that good either.
:::::Twilight Town is even more problematic since the sky in the logo is translucent, something that is very hard to get right with bad scans. I think a screenshot of the actual model of the world map would not satisfactory either, as the model is a lot less detailed than the artwork.
:::::As long as Square Enix doesn't release the complete original artwork in some form there is simply no point in adding even worse images here. And even if they do it, it's excatly the same for CoM, Days (even worse texure) and KHII along the world's logo, so we would simply replace the CoM image and the page would stay the same.
:::::The only images missing at the moment would be the Days version of TWTNW (smaller moon) and the world image of Daybreak Town, which wasn't released as complete artwort too.--{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 07:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:42, 10 April 2018

Future Games[edit]

DaysJack.png
Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

Who said it will be in BBS and Coded ? It has never been shown (in BBS the only sunset pictures are on Destiny Island).
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FA icon.png Tsk tsk tsk... good question......

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

DaysJack.png
Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

I removed it.
Symbol - Honey Pot.png
FA icon.png Thanks. ^_^ (And thanks for doing the same on the other wiki too.)

It is rather funny what I would do for honey. TroisNyxÉtienne


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Givox - It seems to me that what you folks need is a hero.
TALK - "I-I'm an action Figure!"
Actually..... We can assume it is in BBS because we see Yen Sid's castle in the trailer, and that is in Twilight Town. Unless, somehow, it moved? The actual town may not be in the game, but the world known as Twilight Town most likely will be. Because the game is 10 years in the past, the world may have a different name and the town may not even be built yet. Maybe the world is simply home to Yen Sid's Castle.

Fat Dude[edit]

If any of you guys are as mean as me, than you probably made fun of that fat guy who announces the Struggle Tournament. What I want to know is what is his name, and is he the mayor? I only ask this so I can find more ways to make fun of him. -- Love Morghman

DaysJack.png
Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

He's not even in the Journal, his name has never been said, and I think he's just the Struggle arbitrator. And yes, I made fun of him, especially with his hopeless french voice x)


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FA icon.png LOL... His voice is hopeless practically everywhere ! Maybe SE intentionally did it ?

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! TroisNyxÉtienne

DaysAxel.png
Pokhmon - I'm so FLATTERED!
TALK - But you're TOO LATE! — 19:09, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
he does look funny


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CaelumLucisCaliga Wanna talk? - Like I asked. Know-it-all!

Oh thanks! — 04:10, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

OathOblivTalkPic_zps6eebf78e.png For some reason, my favorite part was one he said "you see, I'm a big struggle fan. But I can't help it, the matches are far too short." or something like that. OathOblivTalkPic_zps6eebf78e.png

Um, help ? The gallery view isn't working ?[edit]

Symbol - Keyblade Master.png
FA icon.png Can someone please rectify the galleries in the Twilight Town article ? It's hard to insert a link to an image because the next thing we know, all the remaining text just gets eaten up like that !

Anyone, please help me !

Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. TroisNyxÉtienne

Cameo Article?[edit]

Morghman - Now! Let's savor the utmost of suffering together!
TALK - As the other dies, their agony radiates through my body, and living through it is pure ecstasy!
I recently found out the shopkeepers in Twilight Town are actually cameos of characters from Final Fantasy, like Wantz, Biggs, Wedge, Jessie, and Barret. So I'm just wondering if we should add them to the list of characters in Twilight Town, or note them in the trivia section?
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KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!"
TALK -
I thought the wiki already had this. They don't have images, so it would be hard to add them to the gallery, and the journal doesn't consider them characters. Personally, for "non-characters" like that who still have names, I think we should mention them in the trivia or somesuch.

What's Up With This?[edit]

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 14:52, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png What's up with this? CHAIN OF MEMORIES ISN'T A FILM! Also, when does Twilight Town appear in BBS? I also wonder...would it be redundant if we mentioned Re:CoM in the infobox along w/ CoM?

Betwixt and Between[edit]

DaysZexion.png
Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

What happened to it? I got redirected here but couldn't find it in the article.
DaysZexion.png
Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

No one's answering. :( Doe's anyone know?
DaysZexion.png
Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

Sorry to leave so many messages, but I'd really like to know what happened to this page.


Olette's Appearances[edit]

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Dornob25 - Who knows what that one is thinking.
TALK - You will know how weak you are! — 04:19, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
Olette never appeared in Chain of Memories, or BBS (as far as we know, anyway), neither was she in the original Kingdom Hearts or Coded (again, for right now). Someone must've given false information. I'll fix it.

Transition[edit]

While exploring the mansion in the simulation, Roxas finds Sora in the real world. At what point while going through the mansion does Roxas transition from the simulated town to the real one? Doreiku Kuroofangu 07:35, January 23, 2010 (UTC)


DaysAxel.png
Pokhmon - I'm so FLATTERED!
TALK - But you're TOO LATE! — 19:11, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
i think it happens after the fight with axel


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Demonic Saint - Ah-hyuck! Did you happen to summon me?
TALK - All for one and one for all. - 19:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think he goes back to the real one. He is absorbed by Sora through the Simulated Twilight Town.

Nobodies' birthplace?[edit]

The article says that Twilight Town is the birthplace of all Nobodies; however, we only see this with regards to Roxas. When is it mentioned or implied that the other Organization members, or any other Nobodies, were "born" in Twilight Town? I don't remember that being insinuated at all (but then again, it's been a long time), so I think a citation would be useful.

---lurker

Bumping this up again. As far as I know, this is true only about Roxas. There's nothing that even remotely implies that anyone else was "born" in Twilight Town. But I haven't played 358/2 Days, so I could be wrong. Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 00:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Ditto. I don't recall this ever being mentioned in the game, and I checked the transcript game, and nothing comes up with it being the birthplace for all Nobodies. Since there isn't a source, we should take this out.--NinjaSheik 21:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible desert?[edit]

When me and my friend were exploring Twilight Town, we realized: in the distance one way (game's not working, can't find it) we noticed one of the hills was a different color. Now, I know that there's a beach, but this dune would be far too large. It was the same height as the normal hills, which you can guess are quite large. This got me thinking, as did my friend.


It is possible that there is a desert in one direction? TT is, I believe, cut into a mountain. Rain shadow effects exist, yes? So, am I the only one who noticed this?

-Lurker

BETWIXT AND BETWEEN (AGAIN)[edit]

DaysZexion.png
Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!

Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?

I've said this before but no one has listened. There is no Betwixt and Between page! Typing it in just redirects me here and it doesn't have anything about it! So where has this page gone????
The game considers it part of Twilight Town, so it should be mentioned in the areas section.Glorious CHAOS! 21:03, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
But that's just it. It's not there. --Nitrous X 01:33, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Should it be a part of the Simulated Twilight Town page, since it is accessed from there? --RoxasNobody 21:41, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

True Perpetual Twilight?[edit]

Is it safe to assume that this world is always in a form of twilight, or is that just how one perceives the scenes they are seeing? (I know that is what the name says, but it could be saying it has the 'attitude' of twilight in being mild, and having a beautiful one when it comes) Oh,how the sea calls 21:38, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The journals call it a world of perpetual twilight. Hence, the name.Glorious CHAOS! 09:57, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Heartless or Nobodies?[edit]

DaysRoxas.png
CaelumLucisCaliga Talk! - What are you talking about? I am me! Nobody else!

Sora, you're lucky. Looks like my summer vacation is ... over. — 04:20, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

OathOblivTalkPic_zps6eebf78e.png Ok, in Days, we see TT FILLED with Heartless. But in Kingdom Hearts II, there aren't Heartless at all (except at one portion in Yen Sid's Tower) and it's covered with Nobodies (after Sora's first visit with Yen Sid, if he comes back there's Nobodies). I get that in Days it's to get hearts and Org XIII wouldn't want Roxas to kill one of his own, but why wouldn't there be Heartless in KHII? I mean Sora has a keyblade too. Wow I can't believe how long this is. So long question short, why are there Nobodies in Twilight Town but not Heartless? OathOblivTalkPic_zps6eebf78e.png

BETWIXT AND BETWEEN ONCE AGAIN (Seriously?!)[edit]

So, typing in "Betwixt and Between" into the search bar brought me here, but the article NEVER mentions it at all. So I added it in only to have it undone. What do you people have against Betwixt and Between?! I don't understand it! --216.74.216.217 16:04, 19 February 2011 (EST)

Also, whenever there an editor tries to add it into the page, it is almost immediately undone with no explanation. Why is this? Oathkeeper KH.pngRoxasNobody Oblivion KH.png

If you want the pages to be improved, you can't just undo edits as soon as they are made! --216.74.216.217 16:11, 19 February 2011 (EST)
Betwixt and Between is part of The Old Mansion, so it's covered there. I'm fixing the redirect now."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:03, 23 February 2011 (EST)
Thank you very much. :) --216.74.216.217 22:06, 15 March 2011 (EDT)

Days Tracks[edit]

Do we really have to say that the Days tracks are "(title unannounced)"? They're exactly the same as KH2 and CoM. I realize that the tracks are slightly different, but they are obviously the same songs. 71.92.202.190 00:58, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

See Talk:Boss Music#TBA Titles. maggosh 01:04, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

garbage lot[edit]

is called Tram Common Repository according to a poster outside the usual spot. also, s/b "famous" struggle battle.72.12.205.35 05:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Are you referring to the Tram Common we have bolded on our page? Just checking to be sure. There isn't anything on the areas that says Garbage Lot.--NinjaSheik 21:07, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Not the room, just the little cubby where you play the garbage game. A poster that appears across town calls it the "Tram Common Repository"."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

World[edit]

Why don't we have an image of the world in KHII or KHD?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Probably because it looks the same, and it appears first in CoM. TheSilentHero 20:53, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
At the very least the image quality should be different."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
But from where should we get it? I looked through the textures Shard sent me, and there's nothing. They're all 3D models. ...But, there's an idea. What we could do is dump the models, load them into a viewer then just export as static images. I mean, that's exactly what happened here. --Ignis (talk) 13:36, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
According to the Gallery, it is actually from ReCoM, which could have the same quality as KHII. As for getting the image, we would have to do it the same way we got the other KHII world images. (Not sure how we got those, though. Maybe from Ultimania scans?) TheSilentHero 17:11, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
The only time the world image appears in KHII is in Jiminy's journal, in a very, very small resolution and a bigger but incomplete one (the background when the world is selected in the journal). There is nothing HD about them in the HD versions so all in all they are useless. We only have scans for the KHII world images of Hollow Bastion, Atlantica, Disney Castle, Halloween Town, Olympus Coliseum and TWTNW, you can all see that the quality is not that good simply because the quality in the Ultimanias is not that good either.
Twilight Town is even more problematic since the sky in the logo is translucent, something that is very hard to get right with bad scans. I think a screenshot of the actual model of the world map would not satisfactory either, as the model is a lot less detailed than the artwork.
As long as Square Enix doesn't release the complete original artwork in some form there is simply no point in adding even worse images here. And even if they do it, it's excatly the same for CoM, Days (even worse texure) and KHII along the world's logo, so we would simply replace the CoM image and the page would stay the same.
The only images missing at the moment would be the Days version of TWTNW (smaller moon) and the world image of Daybreak Town, which wasn't released as complete artwort too.--ShardofTruth 07:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)