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==Untitled==
Why doesn't anyone add the actual entries from Jiminy's journal? Just a question, thanks. [[User:HarukaHeart13|HarukaHeart13]] 00:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Why doesn't anyone add the actual entries from Jiminy's journal? Just a question, thanks. [[User:HarukaHeart13|HarukaHeart13]] 00:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
: I believe the actual entries are on the page that focuses on what the entry is about. Pretty much ORG XII entry on ORG XII page. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 14:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
: I believe the actual entries are on the page that focuses on what the entry is about. Pretty much ORG XII entry on ORG XII page. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 14:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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==For KHIIFM ?==
==For KHIIFM ?==
As far as I know, in the main page of Jiminy's Journal, all the sections are kept, but they've also added space for puzzles. For those who played KHIIFM, was there anything else added to the main page ? I somehow can't make it out... '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 00:51, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
As far as I know, in the main page of Jiminy's Journal, all the sections are kept, but they've also added space for puzzles. For those who played KHIIFM, was there anything else added to the main page ? I somehow can't make it out... '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 00:51, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think so, just the Puzzle part. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 03:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think so, just the Puzzle part. - [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart'''</span>]]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion'''</span>]] 03:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC) </span>
I don't know, something seems to tell me there's more - because I remember the page was actually full. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 03:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I don't know, something seems to tell me there's more - because I remember the page was actually full. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 03:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
:Okay according to this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zr6CAQq3a0|video], there are 12 points on the front page. These are the twelve there are:
:Okay according to this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zr6CAQq3a0|video], there are 12 points on the front page. These are the twelve there are:
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*Synthesis Notes
*Synthesis Notes
*Character Links
*Character Links
- [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart''']]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion''']] 03:31, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
- [[User:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Heart'''</span>]]<span style="color:#A9A9A9">'''Of'''[[User talk:HeartOfOblivion|<span style="color:#000000">'''Oblivion'''</span>]] 03:31, October 1, 2009 (UTC) </span>


Hm, a direct contrast from the original KHII journal. Thanks. I'll see if I can put it in the article. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 03:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Hm, a direct contrast from the original KHII journal. Thanks. I'll see if I can put it in the article. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 03:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
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Hey is Jiminy's Jorunal a main character in Kingdom Hearts coded? Cococrash11
Hey is Jiminy's Jorunal a main character in Kingdom Hearts coded? Cococrash11
Well the character called the "Journal" in coded is actually the data version of Riku, Which has been "chosen" in the data world to hold the journal's "hidden memories". In a sense, it's a bit like the benevolent version of the Real Riku and "Ansem"
also reminds me a little of Xion.
==Kana/romaji==
Shouldn't the Japanese name be "Jiminy Memo" ? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#00BFFF">Pour Noël je te donnerai</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#C0C0C0">le battement de mon cœur… ♥ </font>]]'''</sub> 14:26, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
==D Report==
There is truly no proof that the "D" in D report stands for Darkness. I've always believed it to be "Diz Report".[[Special:Contributions/97.124.131.251|97.124.131.251]] 00:07, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
:You just answered your own contradiction. Whether it be Darkness or DiZ, the D in DiZ stands for Darkness. <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#6082B6">Sulu</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#00B7EB">mata</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#002E63">engkudu !</font>]]'''</big> 00:22, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
== Infobox Image ==
{{EO|time=21:41, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm having a bit of trouble accepting the page's current Infobox image. The way it is now, it appears as if its main form is the Riku form it takes on '''only in ''coded'''''. But we know that it is truly a book, so could we please change this, and move the current Infobox image to a gallery or something?}}
{{TNE|time=01:59, March 29, 2010 (UTC)|text=If we can find the image of the book, that is... Any idea where we could find it ?}}
{{KrytenKoro|There's always the physical one, that was released with the Bradygames guide. I could take a picture.}}
{{TNE|time=03:50, March 29, 2010 (UTC)|text=Thanks ! ^_^}}
== BBS Journal ==
{{Sora1954|text=Is there on this wiki, an article talking about the functioning of the journals in BBS, like the Terra's journal. I would like to know if it's similary to the journal in KHII.}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=20:11, May 14, 2010 (UTC)|happy=There's the [[Trinity Report]] article, but I think that's all the official information we have.}}
{{Sora1954|content=Thanks !}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=20:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC)|happy2=You're welcome! ^_^}}
{{TNE|time=00:26, May 15, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=What a surprise, I found '''''you''''' here.
But anyway, the journal article ''should'' be made better once our versions are released. Thoughts ?}}
{{Sora1954|content2=Just 2 or 3 months to wait !}}
{{TNE|time=11:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=By the way, you did see the update on the [[Talk:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep|BBS talk page]], did you not ?
P.S. Gael was the one who passed me the link. Hint hint.}}
{{Sora1954|text=I don't see. There's a lot of subjects there, but, if you talk about the Jungle Book, yes I see it and like the others, i'm really disappointed.}}
{{TNE|time=00:52, May 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=Indeed, the Jungle Book. But Nomura's had a habit of scrapping stuff from many of the games - from KH1 right up to BBS. Wonder why.}}
{{Sora1954|text=It's the only Disney Master Piece which not have a reference in the series. But, i'm practically sure that it will be added in another KH game. }}
{{TNE|time=13:29, May 16, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=It had better be, because if they don't, I'M GONNA CRY BLOODY BLUE MURDER !}}
{{Sora1954|content2=Something says me that you really like this film, which is alors the last of the Walt Disney's life.}}
{{TNE|time=23:45, May 16, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=What do you expect ? :D I '''''love''''' the film ! It's one of the first I watched in my entire life... well, the second ever, to be precise. So yeah, while that whole vid brought me nostalgia, the fact remains that Nomura has a tendency to scrap things... Including Bahamut, which I'd have wanted to see. And if BAHAMUT, the king of all FF summons, was scrapped, what more the Jungle Book ?}}
== Data Riku ==
{{EO|time=14:52, October 12, 2010 (UTC)|talktext=Talking to people who have played ''Re:coded'', there is significant evidence that the Data Riku is his own character, not a form of the Jiminy Journal. He even has his own character entry in the Enemy Reports WITHIN the Journal. It appears this is Sora/Data Sora all over again in terms of whether we merge or not, but the game and even the ''Re:coded'' website treat him as his own character, no way affiliated with/a form of the Journal accept for what is seen early in the game and him being within it like Data Sora. I was going to create a new Data Riku article and move all information regarding him from this article to that one, but I thought we should discuss this first.
EDIT 15:06, October 12, 2010 (UTC) : I will add the report images for translation/deliberation below:
<center>
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/KH-Wiki2/DataRikuDarkModeReport.png
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/KH-Wiki2/DataRikuReportEntry.png
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/KH-Wiki2/DarkDataRikuReport.png
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/KH-Wiki2/DataRikuReport.png
</center>
All right. Further discussion has also shown he ''is'' the Journal. But it still seems to be its own entity. If it has its own entries, that definitely contributes to it having its own article, granted it has a major role WITHIN the Journal alongside Data Sora.
EDIT 15:09, October 12, 2010 (UTC) : There also is an area in the game where Riku is present, but the area is WITHIN Data Riku. You visit the worlds again, refight bosses, etc. Here is an image of this area:
<center>
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/KH-Wiki2/InsideDataRiku.png
</center>}}
I had a feeling we'd have to deal with this.
As far as I can tell *SPOILER* Data Riku was given the memories of the journal, essentially making him an avatar of the journal. This would be why he says that in a sense he is the journal itself. He also mentions at one point that he doesn't know who gave him the memories. Since he, the other characters, and the game itself treat him as "Data Riku", I say we move relevant information to a new "Data Riku" article.  --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 16:23, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
::I could not agree more. I shall proceed with creating the article and moving relevant information. Granted it will be a stub, we have maintenance templates for this very reason. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:16, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
== Two Journals ==
We know that Jiminy uses two different journals for kh 1 and kh 2, and in Coded we see them side by side, shouldn't this be mention in the page seeing how important the first one is in coded.--[[Special:Contributions/196.28.52.1|196.28.52.1]] 01:33, January 17, 2011 (UTC)-masgrande(sorry was log out and didn,t notice)
Its the same journal.The info that was originally in it was erased after the events of Castle Oblivion.--[[User:The Dark Master|The Dark Master]] 01:39, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
There are two, look at the video[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6frDviA1gc&feature=player_embedded#! Re:code opening introduction], the two appear side by side at 0:26 and Jiminy said ''two books'' at 0:30.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 04:09, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
== Just a Funny Thought... ==
...How do Sora and Co. actually READ Jiminy's Journal? It's tiny! Do they carry a magnifying lens or something with them? [[User:FerreTrip |<span style="color:tan;"><b>FT</b></span>]] 17:03, 9 March 2011 (EST)
:Sora doesn't know how to read. They all just sit down for tea and Jiminy reads it to them.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:11, 9 March 2011 (EST)

Latest revision as of 16:38, 8 August 2012

Untitled[edit]

Why doesn't anyone add the actual entries from Jiminy's journal? Just a question, thanks. HarukaHeart13 00:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe the actual entries are on the page that focuses on what the entry is about. Pretty much ORG XII entry on ORG XII page. XienZo 14:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

For KHIIFM ?[edit]

As far as I know, in the main page of Jiminy's Journal, all the sections are kept, but they've also added space for puzzles. For those who played KHIIFM, was there anything else added to the main page ? I somehow can't make it out... TNÉ En avant Bravo ! 00:51, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so, just the Puzzle part. - HeartOfOblivion 03:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, something seems to tell me there's more - because I remember the page was actually full. TNÉ En avant Bravo ! 03:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Okay according to this [1], there are 12 points on the front page. These are the twelve there are:
  • Ansem Reports
  • Character Files
  • The Heartless
  • The Nobodies
  • Treasures
  • Puzzles
  • Maps
  • Missions
  • Minigames
  • Combo Attacks
  • Synthesis Notes
  • Character Links

- HeartOfOblivion 03:31, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Hm, a direct contrast from the original KHII journal. Thanks. I'll see if I can put it in the article. TNÉ En avant Bravo ! 03:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Main Character[edit]

Hey is Jiminy's Jorunal a main character in Kingdom Hearts coded? Cococrash11

Well the character called the "Journal" in coded is actually the data version of Riku, Which has been "chosen" in the data world to hold the journal's "hidden memories". In a sense, it's a bit like the benevolent version of the Real Riku and "Ansem"

also reminds me a little of Xion.

Kana/romaji[edit]

Shouldn't the Japanese name be "Jiminy Memo" ? TNÉ Pour Noël je te donnerai le battement de mon cœur… ♥ 14:26, December 17, 2009 (UTC)



D Report[edit]

There is truly no proof that the "D" in D report stands for Darkness. I've always believed it to be "Diz Report".97.124.131.251 00:07, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

You just answered your own contradiction. Whether it be Darkness or DiZ, the D in DiZ stands for Darkness. Sulu mata engkudu ! 00:22, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Image[edit]

TerraTalk1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 21:41, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngI'm having a bit of trouble accepting the page's current Infobox image. The way it is now, it appears as if its main form is the Riku form it takes on only in coded. But we know that it is truly a book, so could we please change this, and move the current Infobox image to a gallery or something?
Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png If we can find the image of the book, that is... Any idea where we could find it ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:59, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

209.png
KrytenKoro - "Because I knew something he didn't. I knew that I was lying. Seriously, sir. 'No silicon heaven'? Where would all of the calculators go?"
TALK -
There's always the physical one, that was released with the Bradygames guide. I could take a picture.
Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png Thanks ! ^_^

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:50, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

BBS Journal[edit]

DaysMickey.png
Sora1954 Discussion ? — Il en va de même pour nos cœurs.

Nos cœurs sont connectés !

Is there on this wiki, an article talking about the functioning of the journals in BBS, like the Terra's journal. I would like to know if it's similary to the journal in KHII.
SoraMangaHappy.png
Dan Mobile sprite-soradance.png - My friends are my power! — 20:11, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png There's the Trinity Report article, but I think that's all the official information we have.
DaysMickeyHappy.png
Sora1954 Discussion ? — Il en va de même pour nos cœurs.

Ne baisse pas les bras sous prétexte que les Ténèbres t'ont un jour contrôlé !

Thanks !
DanAvatar.png
Dan Mobile sprite-soralove.png - You gotta try and think positive! — 20:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
Dans-Crown.png You're welcome! ^_^
Symbol - Identity Disk.png
FA icon.png What a surprise, I found you here.

But anyway, the journal article should be made better once our versions are released. Thoughts ?

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:26, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

DaysMickeyTalk.png
Sora1954 Discussion ? — Il en va de même pour nos cœurs.

Il n'y a aucune raison de ne pas choisir d'aider ses amis !

Just 2 or 3 months to wait !
Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png By the way, you did see the update on the BBS talk page, did you not ?

P.S. Gael was the one who passed me the link. Hint hint.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 11:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

DaysMickey.png
Sora1954 Discussion ? — Il en va de même pour nos cœurs.

Nos cœurs sont connectés !

I don't see. There's a lot of subjects there, but, if you talk about the Jungle Book, yes I see it and like the others, i'm really disappointed.
Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png Indeed, the Jungle Book. But Nomura's had a habit of scrapping stuff from many of the games - from KH1 right up to BBS. Wonder why.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:52, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

DaysMickey.png
Sora1954 Discussion ? — Il en va de même pour nos cœurs.

Nos cœurs sont connectés !

It's the only Disney Master Piece which not have a reference in the series. But, i'm practically sure that it will be added in another KH game.
Symbol - Magic Hat.png
FA icon.png It had better be, because if they don't, I'M GONNA CRY BLOODY BLUE MURDER !

There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. TroisNyxÉtienne — 13:29, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

DaysMickeyTalk.png
Sora1954 Discussion ? — Il en va de même pour nos cœurs.

Il n'y a aucune raison de ne pas choisir d'aider ses amis !

Something says me that you really like this film, which is alors the last of the Walt Disney's life.
Symbol - Identity Disk.png
FA icon.png What do you expect ? :D I love the film ! It's one of the first I watched in my entire life... well, the second ever, to be precise. So yeah, while that whole vid brought me nostalgia, the fact remains that Nomura has a tendency to scrap things... Including Bahamut, which I'd have wanted to see. And if BAHAMUT, the king of all FF summons, was scrapped, what more the Jungle Book ?

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! TroisNyxÉtienne — 23:45, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Data Riku[edit]

TerraTalk2.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 14:52, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png Talking to people who have played Re:coded, there is significant evidence that the Data Riku is his own character, not a form of the Jiminy Journal. He even has his own character entry in the Enemy Reports WITHIN the Journal. It appears this is Sora/Data Sora all over again in terms of whether we merge or not, but the game and even the Re:coded website treat him as his own character, no way affiliated with/a form of the Journal accept for what is seen early in the game and him being within it like Data Sora. I was going to create a new Data Riku article and move all information regarding him from this article to that one, but I thought we should discuss this first.

EDIT 15:06, October 12, 2010 (UTC) : I will add the report images for translation/deliberation below:

DataRikuDarkModeReport.png DataRikuReportEntry.png DarkDataRikuReport.png DataRikuReport.png

All right. Further discussion has also shown he is the Journal. But it still seems to be its own entity. If it has its own entries, that definitely contributes to it having its own article, granted it has a major role WITHIN the Journal alongside Data Sora.

EDIT 15:09, October 12, 2010 (UTC) : There also is an area in the game where Riku is present, but the area is WITHIN Data Riku. You visit the worlds again, refight bosses, etc. Here is an image of this area:

InsideDataRiku.png

I had a feeling we'd have to deal with this.

As far as I can tell *SPOILER* Data Riku was given the memories of the journal, essentially making him an avatar of the journal. This would be why he says that in a sense he is the journal itself. He also mentions at one point that he doesn't know who gave him the memories. Since he, the other characters, and the game itself treat him as "Data Riku", I say we move relevant information to a new "Data Riku" article. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 16:23, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

I could not agree more. I shall proceed with creating the article and moving relevant information. Granted it will be a stub, we have maintenance templates for this very reason. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 17:16, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Two Journals[edit]

We know that Jiminy uses two different journals for kh 1 and kh 2, and in Coded we see them side by side, shouldn't this be mention in the page seeing how important the first one is in coded.--196.28.52.1 01:33, January 17, 2011 (UTC)-masgrande(sorry was log out and didn,t notice)

Its the same journal.The info that was originally in it was erased after the events of Castle Oblivion.--The Dark Master 01:39, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

There are two, look at the videoRe:code opening introduction, the two appear side by side at 0:26 and Jiminy said two books at 0:30.--Masgrande 04:09, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Just a Funny Thought...[edit]

...How do Sora and Co. actually READ Jiminy's Journal? It's tiny! Do they carry a magnifying lens or something with them? FT 17:03, 9 March 2011 (EST)

Sora doesn't know how to read. They all just sit down for tea and Jiminy reads it to them."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:11, 9 March 2011 (EST)