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:No, Emblem Heartless are created (like Ansem did when he gave up his heart). Purebloods manifest through natural processes as manifestations of the darkness in someone's heart - the person does not change into a Pureblood, though.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:06, December 27, 2010 (UTC) | :No, Emblem Heartless are created (like Ansem did when he gave up his heart). Purebloods manifest through natural processes as manifestations of the darkness in someone's heart - the person does not change into a Pureblood, though.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:06, December 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:The emblem isn't even actually part of him; he discards is with most of his clothes when he merges with the World of Chaos.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}05:18, December 27, 2010 (UTC) | :The emblem isn't even actually part of him; he discards is with most of his clothes when he merges with the World of Chaos.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}05:18, December 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Let's not forget that, when Terra-Xehanort gave up his heart, it was a time PRE-emblem Heartless, or at least before they were more "Varifying", so once he become a heartless, it was or could have looked like Master Xehanort, but without the emblme heartless, and when he casted his heart towards the past, it's became like a dark-silhoutte like being barely in the shape of MX, so until he could find a body to grow, he just need the robe to at least keep it's appearance straight. {{User:LuisArturo/sig}}02:13, October 03, 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Ansem is Master Xeahnorts heartless? == | == Ansem is Master Xeahnorts heartless? == | ||
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:::I agree with splitting them. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 17:33, 22 February 2019 (UTC) | :::I agree with splitting them. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 17:33, 22 February 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::Would it be okay to proceed with the split then? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 18:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | ::::Would it be okay to proceed with the split then? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 18:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::Riku (Ansem) would also need to be split, since that incarnation is more a fusion (as it has both Ansem and Riku's hearts, speaks in both of their voices, is not considered a Heartless etc) while "Ansem" is just Xehanort's Heartless with a body. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 21:55, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm cool with the split, but I think a mod needs to weigh in on a change of this magnitude.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::::Could some of the mods and/or admins either give their yays or nays regarding this split? :) - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 19:04, 21 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I am some years late to this discussion however I don't think the page needs to be split. As far as I'm aware the reason that Riku and Riku-Ansem are separate pages is because the latter is a fusion of two different characters, same deal with Ventus-Vanitas/Terra-Xehanort etc. However since the Robed Figure is just Ansem SoD without a physical body, it doesn't really follow the same logic, so I think the bodyless Ansem information can stay on this page. That being said if there's more to it than what I've said you definitely have the authority to split now, either way I'd just like the split request resolved. [[User:Pureautism|Pureautism]] ([[User talk:Pureautism|talk]]) 16:36, 10 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::::::I agree there's no need for a split. It was argued somewhere some time ago that the wiki created separate articles for characters when they were fundamentally different in composition. Robed Ansem classifies as such and KH3D's journal entries seem to even regard him as a completely different form of Ansem (Melody of Memory seem to also indicate this by having Master Xehanort transition into Xemnas, Ansem, Robed Ansem, and then Terra-Xehanort). I wanted consistency back then but I feel now that going through with such a split would be quite unnecessary and ultimately just a bit messy and confusing. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 23:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I figure KH3D's journal entry separates them because as it mentions Sora and Riku don't know the Robed Figure's identity as Ansem, basically the same thing as "Unknown" or "Mysterious Figure" for Xemnas/Young Xehanort. I checked the KH3D Ultimania's character guide section and I don't see any Robed Figure mention in Ansem's section or otherwise, so I think it doesn't really mean anything. Regardless since this seems cleared up, I'll remove the split template on the page. [[User:Pureautism|Pureautism]] ([[User talk:Pureautism|talk]]) 05:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
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The page says Billy Zane voiced Ansem in COM, but wouldn't that actually be Re:COM? And wasn't it archival audio? Never played OG COM and only watched cutscenes from RE:COM, so I'm not quite sure. --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 08:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
:CoM GBA reuses his battle quote files from KH1 (but compressed for the GBA), and ReCoM has new battle lines from Richard Epcar. --{{User:Braviaggron/Sig}} 22:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC) | |||