Forum:Re-synching the Wiki

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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. EDIT 11:50, 11 June 2011 (PST): THE AUDIT IS COMPLETE

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Since the staffers aren't able to do this on their own, there are quite a few tasks that the community needs to partake in. For starters, each and every single article on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki needs to be synched with its form on the original KH Wiki. The index included below contains all of the mainspace articles on this wiki. Also, Kryten has asked me to inform you that ALL FAN-MADE IMAGES ON THIS WIKI ARE TO BE PUT UP FOR DELETION IMMEDIATELY. NO EXCEPTIONS. This includes the Days Bubble images, save for the ones used on the templates. The template images' fate is still being discussed. A separate host may be needed to support some of these images (such as a Photobucket account specifically for the Days bubble images). Similarly, all images that are not under the file extension ".png" or ".gif" are to be re-uploaded or marked with the {{Bad Name}} template. All .gif images that are not animations are also in need of this. These tasks, while not an immediate priority, need to be accomplished. Since there is no way a couple people can make this happen, your help is needed. It is suggested that groups or teams are made to tackle each of these problems separately. If the labor is split, it will go by much faster and more efficiently. With everyone's help, it will get done. Main Index COMPLETED File Index COMPLETED Templates & Cards COMPLETED EDIT FROM KRYTENKORO: This list is missing the other namespaces. Other links Category:Images Category:User images Uncategorized files File list Userbox images (resizing) - The Inexistent/UnknownChaser Once a link is no longer needed, simply <s> it out, like so. There you have it.

Lilienne - "If the king doesn't lead, how can he expect his subordinates to follow?" TALK - "Snow is white because it's forgotten the colour it's supposed to be." 00:15, 11 February 2011 (EST) Maybe my reading comprehension is low, but what do you mean by synching the articles? Didn't we just do a database dump?

KrytenKoro - "Punch your lights out, hit the pavement. That's what I call entertainment. Causin' problems makes you famous - all the violence makes a statement." TALK - Yes, but there were many errors, especially within the Filespace. To clarify: Every article, in every namespace, will need to be synced. The best way to do this is for each person to "claim" one of the pages of the index, and make sure that every article on that page is the same on both wikis. This also means that, if the khwiki has a page that was deleted from the wikia, it should be marked for deletion here as well. If the page didn't get created here, it should be copied from wikia. If, when comparing the diffs of the wikia and the khwiki, there are differences, you need to go through each of them and make sure that they are correct. This means combing through the edit as if it was just made and you were patrolling for vandalism. The move is not over until this audit is done. Additionally, this is a great time to clean up our imagestacks. All fan-made images, no exceptions, are to be marked for deletion. They can either be hosted on an imagehost, like photobucket, or on the wikia. The fan-made images in templates should also be marked for deletion, but we need to find an imagehost for them that will be both safe and stable. This NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. Any image that does not fall under the naming standard should be marked with the "Bad Name" template. Any image which is not a .png or .gif, or is not an animated .gif, should be marked with the "Betterpic" template. Again: THE MOVE IS NOT OVER UNTIL THIS AUDIT IS DONE. I absolutely, absolutely need the full cooperation of our userbase. If this task is left to just the staff, we could be stuck mid-move for up to a year.

Erry - Deep Drive TALK - Moon shine down. ~ 02:19, 11 February 2011 (EST) I am just telling you guys from now on that I'll be working my way up from "Birth by Sleep" to Auto Assult, as soon as all those pages are done, I'll move to the next index and so on.

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}} I'll be reuploading .jpg images starting from "Xaldin".jpg until Aladdin-ChOfMem.png and possibly reupload them with appropriate names. EDIT: I'll just leave the file names as it were.

In the case of the Talk Template Archive, whenever you're ready to have my pictures up for deletion (those which are still on the wiki), please earmark them — I'll need to either save them or remove them before I go any further. Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 06:21, 11 February 2011 (EST)

LevL Fear my mighty instruments! — 10:53, 11 February 2011 (EST) I'll try to sync the articles from Mufasa to Phil.

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. And I'll tackle "Lingering Sentiment to Mickey Mouse" when I get home this afternoon. Should we perhaps put people's names next to the respective indexes, just to clarify who's already doing what?

LevL Fear my mighty instruments! — 15:27, 11 February 2011 (EST) I agree, that would make it much clearer what's already being taken care of and what still has to be done.

KrytenKoro - "Punch your lights out, hit the pavement. That's what I call entertainment. Causin' problems makes you famous - all the violence makes a statement." TALK - Yes, this should have a signup list. There are still many of the indexes missing, too. @17master - just fix the images under their current names on wikia, and if they are still misnamed, mark them with the "Bad Name" template.

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! Err... I have a ton of work to do, but I'll help out if I can. I'll try to sync the World That Never Was to X-Blade articles, but I can't make any promises.

KrytenKoro - Click TALK - The Xehanort's Report - X-Blade index is for images, though. Everybody, make sure you're using the index links provided. Also, I left a notice on 17master's page explaining the issue, but the files he uploaded will all need to be redone, with the current versions deleted to make space.

Organization 13 - I'd rather we just skip the formalities. TALK - How I love a game! Same as As If, I have stuff to do but I'll try doing Card Break to Cure Potion.

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! Alright! Now, I'll do the "Fairy Stars (Aqua)" image section.

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Alrighty, just put your name next to the index you are going to cover. I'll get started on mine now.

I'm focusing on going through the images that are not licensed/categorized. Also, if I see an image that breaks our image policy, it's deleted. (I mean images that don't pertain to Kingdom Hearts and are just to make user pages look different. Use photobucket, people!) Xion4ever Who am I? — 19:21, 11 February 2011 (EST)

The Inexistent - Pitiful users, mindlessly collecting information. The rage of an edit releases this knowledge, and they all come together, to form: The Wiki!!! TALK - And on the Wiki these words appear: "My name is The_Inexistent, user of users: Look upon my edits, ye Mighty, and despair!" I signed up, but I'll have to start tomorrow morning. Also, delete my images anytime you want. They are good to go, I hope.

SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. — "Looks like you're prepared." "What is with you and picking up stray puppies?" — 00:04, 12 February 2011 (EST) I'll be doing the images. I've already got a few done; for the record, all I'm doing is adding {{Bad Name}} to each of the .jpg images.

Lilienne - "If the king doesn't lead, how can he expect his subordinates to follow?" TALK - "Snow is white because it's forgotten the colour it's supposed to be." 00:51, 12 February 2011 (EST) I'll do Rafe Truffle HT.png to SantaSora.jpg (marking them for deletion or better names/formats). Should I add {{Bad Name}} or {{Betterpic}} to the jpgs?

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}} I'll be doing what Crono and Lilienne did, then. Lilienne: if the file is .png but has a bad name, then {{bad name}} it is. And if it's .jpg with a bad name, then {{betterpic}} should be put as well.

Dan - My friends are my power! — 05:03, 12 February 2011 (EST) Just to be sure, "synching" just means "make sure the pages on this site look the same as the ones on the wikia site", right?

Organization 13 - I'd rather we just skip the formalities. TALK - How I love a game! I think so, ya, Dan.

Dan - My friends are my power! — 09:07, 12 February 2011 (EST) Alright, I'll take Auto Brave to Card Soldiers then. =)

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 09:56, 12 February 2011 (EST) I took the file images, from Keyblade Graveyard Logo to Libuelle, and I finished.

Okay, so I reported this glitch already, but anybody doing images should be aware: Many times, images may not appear, and when liscensing, categories, or templates are added to the page, they will also not appear, and the image will not be added to any categry imcluded in the templates. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 11:02, 12 February 2011 (EST)

But the template is still there. If you choose edit, the code's still there, and if you choose preview, the template is there. The17master 11:28, 12 February 2011 (EST)

But the category, which is more important, is not there. Chitalian8 11:30, 12 February 2011 (EST)

Well... Is it possible for the categories to appear after the bug is fixed? Either way I should stop for now... just in case. The17master 11:48, 12 February 2011 (EST)

WAIT. Two things:

1. You shouldn't need to stop, if the code is still there, it should be auto resolved when the issue is fixed.
2. Guys, when you are going through the images, DON'T NOMINATE JPEGS THAT ARE BEING USED IN AN ARTICLE FOR DELETION. Those get the bad name template. I have seen several handfuls of mainspace use images marked for deletion already, but at the time I didn't think to revert the edits. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 14:49, 12 February 2011 (EST)

iZerox "Take a look at this tiny place. To the heart seeking freedom, this island is a prison surrounded by water. And so this boy sought out to escape from his prison. He sought a way to cross over into other worlds and he opened his heart to darkness." — 23:05, 12 February 2011 (EST) So images such as my talk bubble image over there <---- that I use for that and my Userpage are to be deleted? May I ask why because to be honest it seems a bit annoying. They're already working and I don't want to go and clutter my photobucket account with my talk bubble images. Is it a server space issue? Most the wiki seems to have transfered seamlessly. I've noticed some of my images aren't updated so I'll fix that.

Chitalian8 Say... — And here's me, playing the world's tiniest violin. Your face is priceless. — 23:35, 12 February 2011 (EST) I wouldn't think that one would be deleted, since it's not fanart. Models from the game are official material.

This is not the place for that discussion. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 23:38, 12 February 2011 (EST)

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! Out of curiosity, when are we going to reupload all the .jpg images?

Once all of the images have been sorted, so we know which ones are going to be deleted and which will be reuploaded. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 20:51, 13 February 2011 (EST)

Mega Sword-chucks Dr. Light's Lab Talk Page — I let the Mega-Buster do the talking. Sorry, am I too blue for you?— 22:35, 13 February 2011 (EST) Done with the "Stat Matrix-Command Expansion ~ The Queen". Moving on to the "Sora Heartless (phase 2) ~ Stat Matrix-CP cheat." EDIT: Done with "Sora Heartless (phase 2) ~ Stat Matrix-CP cheat." Moving on to "VCast ~ Xehanort Painting." EDIT: Done with "Vcast ~ Xehanort Heartless."

CaelumLucisCaliga Talk! - Join the Darkness. We have cookies. Dark Chocolate Chip Cookies! — 22:42, 13 February 2011 (EST) I'll handle Dragoon Nobody to Fire Arts! :)

Soxra - Don't MESS with street rats! Talk to me! - Soxxeh 6:48pm, February 14, 2011 (UTC) Dibs on Mickey Mouse (D-Link) to Mrs. Potts. EDIT: Done. PS: This edit was made on the former Wiki, but I'm not sure it's correct. Can someone verify?

I believe it is. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 16:00, 14 February 2011 (EST)

Questions. Does the Images need to be the same on the THIS wiki and the OLD wiki? Like, Search The image ON OLD WIKI, match it with the NEW WIKI photo? If it if different reupload the OLD WIKI photo? If all of these question answers are yes, I'll take UserSamurai.gif to Vanitas offering hand.jpg ANX219 17:45, 14 February 2011 (EST)

No. We are going through to make sure all of the images on the wiki are useful and adhere to the new image policy. As such, ALL user images (for talk bubbles, including ones from Days) need to be put up for deletion. All other unused or non- mainspace usable images must also be nominated for deletion. Finally, if a usable image is a jpeg, you should place the bad name template on it, so it will be reuploaded with the proper name and file type. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 19:43, 14 February 2011 (EST)

Guys... I was just going through the "images with bad names" category. Unless I am very wrong, all user images and usless or extremely low quality jpegs are not being kept. User jpgs and other, useless jpgs are to be marked for deletion, not to be reuploaded. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 22:03, 14 February 2011 (EST)

KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living." TALK - Okay, there was confusion on the IRC, so to clarify: The only way to properly sync the pages is by copying all of the code from the wikia, pasting it in the khwiki version of the page, and clicking SHOW CHANGES. If there are any changes present, you are responsible for checking each of them for whether they should be included or not, as with regular RC-patrolling. If you have not been using this method for your pages, you really need to go back and do them again. For the image description page bug: please list it in the bug reports. @iZerox: I think we can fairly well predict that the wikia will no longer have the no fanart rule - they have already started to relax that. As such, any fan-made image can be easily hosted on the wikia's servers, and embedded here. It's the same code I use for the cat pictures on my user page, which I actually host at the Digimon Wiki. @Everybody: While going through the image description pages, also check for errors if you can. Part of this audit is that this is the only time when this could really be done well. Also, our images should match the wikia's image, IF that version is correct, and has not been replaced with something bad. If you are unsure whether to use the wikia version of an image or not, note it with {{betterpic}}, possibly, or note it at Forum:Move issues. Templates for marking: Betterpic - for any non .png or animated .gif images Badname - for any images that don't fit under our naming scheme Delete - for any fan images or unused images that cannot be used anywhere These are not exclusive, and it is possible that an image has all three. I'm very sorry I haven't been helping with this yet...I finally got to that "too busy at work to edit" part in my job, that I told you guys about in August. Heh.

KrytenKoro - You should have figured out whether bodies age without their hearts, Nomura. TALK - IF YOU UPLOAD A NEW VERSION OF AN IMAGE AND IT DOESN'T TAKE, PLEASE MARK IT WITH Category:Upload issues.

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}} back to work, I'll be doing Goofy BBS.png - Herc's Shield.png EDIT: done.

LevL Fear my mighty instruments! — 08:32, 21 February 2011 (EST) I have two questions: .PNG is not the same as .png, right? So .PNG images should also have the betterpic template, or am I completely wrong? If a file has already been put up for deletion, does it still need the betterpic or bad name templates?

Soxra - Surely you must've known that this was going to happen. Have something to say...? - Soxxeh 10:46pm, February 23, 2011 (UTC) PNG and png are the same. Extensions work identically regardless of capitalization. For consistency's sake, they should all be the same, but it doesn't particularly matter for functionality.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? So... yeah... I'm buried in papers I need to write (and there's no way I can finish all of them on time), combined with the computer problems I won't shut up about. I'm probably not going to be able to get back to this any time soon, so someone'll need to tak the rest of my chunk of synching. I had Fire Bangle through HP Prize Plus, and managed to get through Fire Bangle to Gauntlets (going down the list vertically). Sorry, I wish I could be more help right now.

Soxra - Surely you must've known that this was going to happen. Have something to say...? - Soxxeh 3:18am, February 25, 2011 (UTC) I will take care of Lapis's missed content, then sort together a Template and Card list.

Soxra - Behold! For my very existence refutes the will of the gods! I am a will unto my own, a power that shakes the very foundation of creation! Talk to me! - Soxxeh 4:01am, February 25, 2011 (UTC) I have finished Lapis's section, and all articles are now copied or better on this Wiki than the old one. (Some have differing content, but most are newer here, and all are better.) Alright, as per Kryten's request, we have to manually sync Templates and Cards as well. I'll take care of the Cards myself, and put up a list of the Template sections that need to be done. Just like the one above, users can claim sections and strike them out as they are finished. Cards A-Z - Soxxeh ! to FriendSER - Dan - Don't Blink! ♫ Friend NinjaSheik to Niko - LapisScarab NimbleGear to User Agrabah - User Al1996 to User Sora Quote - User Sora Theme to UserfriendDE13 - UserfriendDarkheart3 to ~Soralover101~ -

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Finished the first column of the last index page incomplete. Erry is working on the middle column, and it would be great if someone else could do the last one. We actually might get this done.

The Inexistent - All the world's a puzzle, and I the one who made it so... TALK - EVIL has come... at last... Arg. I was planning on doing this tomorrow, but it appears that I may not be here. I have crossed off my name on the list. My apologies.

KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living." TALK - As we are about to start moving into the userspace, I'd like to start talking about walkthroughs. There has been some definite interest in setting up official walkthroughs for each game, similar to what bulbapedia has. I think the first step in writing those (barring the obvious setup of the "Walkthrough"-space, is to cannibalize the existing walkthroughs found in the userspace. So, if you find a walkthrough while auditing the user and usertalk spaces, please mark it with [[Category:Walkthrough]]. Once we have the space set up, we can compile the drafts for each game, and start working on the cannibalization. Woooo.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Sorry for that week of inactivity, got really busy really quickly. I'm back on going through those templates now.

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! I decided to help out with the Xehanort Report.png to Χ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png section, and I finished. It would probably be a good idea, however, to go back through and double-check my edits to see if there are any more images you want deleted/renamed. Thanks!

Master Vantius - The light and darkness must be equal to bring balance to the worlds. TALK - Master Vantius 15:54, 23 March 2011 (EDT) How much more is needed to be synced over. The wikia is starting to get anxious for a meeting if there is more needed then we can hold off. Is this a good idea Lego?

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Dear lord, please leave me out of this...

Master Vantius - The light and darkness must be equal to bring balance to the worlds. TALK - Master Vantius 18:28, 23 March 2011 (EDT) I didn't plan to. I was just checking on the resync status that's all.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 03:39, 24 March 2011 (EDT) GOOD NEWS! I finished a nice, long page of image audits--sans the iUserbox images. KrytenKoro, LegoAlchemist, and I tried to resolve the issue with resizing all of the images, but ultimately could not. I'm counting the section as audited for now, so we might need to open a forum for this or reactivate the Userbox post-moving forum. Also, I apologize for not getting to the rest of these image audits earlier. I've been terribly busy, far more than I'd like to be. I will definitely still do my best to audit the rest, but don't hesitate to take over any of the image indexes that have my name marked in the far above listing, especially if you have the time! Thanks you guys, we're doing an awesome job. It won't be long before KHWiki will be out of "Audit Mode" now!

ALLLLLLLRIGHTY!! It took me almost half a year (4-5 months), but I am proud to officially report Block to Card Soldier is entirely re-synced! (Barring one page that I gather got added in there after I started, which I ignored.) Now I won't feel so bad that that part up there is crossed out, because now it IS completely done. MISSION COMPLETE! Sorry it took so long!! ^_^;; FT 20:39, 19 April 2011 (EDT)

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Finally. My bit on the template space is all checked out.

¿With "Synching", you also mean moving the history? Lukethehedgehog"¿A heartless commander?" — Lukethehedgehog 20:34, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! No, just the photo/template itself.

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}} Okay, before I go any further I wanna ask something. Since DTN seems to be busy, can I take over one of his job? Namely this one>> UserSamurai.gif to Vanitas offering hand.jpg. So, if permitted, I would like to start immediately.

Dan - My friends are my power! — 10:05, 14 May 2011 (EDT) Okay, my template quota is done.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 02:40, 24 May 2011 (EDT) Guys, we have got to get this finished. We are so closed, but suddenly everything just... well, stopped. As I have stated already, disregard those comments that I reserved; those are still open. I'll take my name off those now, so hopefully this will get done sooner. We're so close, guys, let's finish this out!!

I apologize, everyone, for my recent lack of participation in the audit. I'm trying to find a time to do these two sections. I also have a question, and I apologize if the answer is facepalmingly obvious. Are the admins going to try to clear out these hundreds of files by themselves, or are the mods/ trustworthy users going to be temporarily given the deletion right (Erry permanently, maybe), to aid in this process? I only say this because of the great magnitude of the deletion. Finally, how will moving jpgs over to pngs be handled? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 20:26, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

It actually won't be very difficult to have the admins just use the "What links here" of the Delete template and smite every image in there. We have Kryten, Neumannz, me, and Xion fairly regularly. That doesn't even include the other admins who idle the IRC, such as Maggosh and Hexedmagica. As for moving .jpgs to .pngs, I think that a user would just download/save the .jpg image and then resave it as .png, or find the original image and save that as a .png.

Also, important newsflash: Do not worry about userbox images while auditing. Just pretend those aren't there. --^DTN 21:08, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

I meant more of "how are we dividing up the 700+ images to be converted", not the process. And I'm still working on the userbox images (I stopped after the main userbox page). KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 22:37, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. BROS. I just want to say, great work, everyone! The audit is nearly complete! We are so so close. It only feels like yesterday that this forum was opened and we got to work. And the Mainspace Audit is complete! And the Image- and Template-space is so close to completion. I know the list looked daunting, so I used <!-- --> tags to hide the striked out indexes. There is so little that needs to be done until we can move on to the remaining namespaces! I was able to do two file indexes in less than a day; this can be done tomorrow if we get to work (I would be more than happy to take on any remaining File indexes if anyone doesn't want to or can't do their own). Here's to the future! Awesome work, everyone!

I can help T_I with the userbox images, if he doesn't mind. UnknownCheisā ^{—— underwater knife fight} 16:20, May 30, 2011 (EDT)

Sure. On the old wikia, just take a printscreen of a set of userboxes, then crop the images out of the boxes. Then ping me or Lego on the IRC sometime to get the password for the photobucket. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 17:06, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

K, thanks, I resized 30-ish image so far, once I get around 50, I'll contact one of you. UnknownCheisā ^{—— underwater knife fight} 17:38, May 30, 2011 (EDT)