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I would say yes, we probably are going to need some more help, but, Mods really don't have any special helping abilities. We already have dedicated contributors but if everyone else feels like that we need more mods, then I guess we need more mods. BebopKate, sorry again. I think I'll just send you an e-mail. But you should still visit sometimes, I'm there practically every day.}}
I would say yes, we probably are going to need some more help, but, Mods really don't have any special helping abilities. We already have dedicated contributors but if everyone else feels like that we need more mods, then I guess we need more mods. BebopKate, sorry again. I think I'll just send you an e-mail. But you should still visit sometimes, I'm there practically every day.}}
{{yer mom|time=15:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Well as you said, mods don't really have any special abilities, rollback magic isn't that magical unless a vandal really messed with a page and that still can be reverted by a normal user. I guess it would be nice for users to have a list of people they can go to if they're cute newbies in the wiki and don't know how to create a nice talk bubble or something like that (but we already have one of those in the Help:Beginner's Userpage thingie...) Perhaps add a couple of mods and upgrade one or two of the current mods to adminship?
{{yer mom|time=15:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Well as you said, mods don't really have any special abilities, rollback magic isn't that magical unless a vandal really messed with a page and that still can be reverted by a normal user. I guess it would be nice for users to have a list of people they can go to if they're cute newbies in the wiki and don't know how to create a nice talk bubble or something like that (but we already have one of those in the Help:User page thingie...) Perhaps add a couple of mods and upgrade one or two of the current mods to adminship?


But well... as Angela once said, the more the merrier XD}}
But well... as Angela once said, the more the merrier XD}}
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{{yer mom|time=15:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Personally I've found rollback useful only in one case in which I asked Guardian Soul to rollback some... rather crazy edits that included Mr. Burrows and the words ''rent boy'' in Mr. Smee's page, but other than that, you're right, I guess we don't need more mods after all. }}
{{yer mom|time=15:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Personally I've found rollback useful only in one case in which I asked Guardian Soul to rollback some... rather crazy edits that included Mr. Burrows and the words ''rent boy'' in Mr. Smee's page, but other than that, you're right, I guess we don't need more mods after all. }}
{{Guardian Soul|text=Of course you could always promote the mods to admins and hire a few more admins while we're gone.  Then we can actually be more useful.}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=Of course you could always promote the mods to admins and hire a few more admins while we're gone.  Then we can actually be more useful.}}
{{ILHI|19:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)|Errm? People who say Rollback isn't a good thing/isn't a very good thing: You're not using it right. Rollback is used for vandalism only. And it just hurries up the reversion process. If you watch RC, view an edit, see it's vandalism, you just have to click rollback and then be on with your day. It also means you can beat other RC watchers at the time to make you look like you do more vandalism revert work.}}
{{ILHI|19:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)|Errm? People who say Rollback isn't a good thing/isn't a verby good thing: You're not using it right. Rollback is used for vandalism only. And it just hurries up the reversion process. If you watch RC, view an edit, see it's vandalism, you just have to click rollback and then be on with your day. It also means you can beat other RC watchers at the time to make you look like you do more vandalism revert work.}}
{{yer mom|time=19:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)|text=Exactly! and seeing we get like... one vandal a month, it's not really useful, at least on this wiki ''*shrug*''}}
{{MM841|14:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)|OK, firstly, its great to be back. Secondlly, I think we need to promote one of the active admins to a Bureaucrat, simply so we dont need to contact an unactive member of staff whenever there is a change in staff}}
{{DTN|text=Well, isn't this quite the topic! Anyway, to those who are saying the rollback ability is apparently so "not useful," than why did you award it to TNE, GS, and Ultima? The idea seemed great back then, and now it's being attacked heavily. We do get vandals far more than once a month; it doesn't have to be one of those horrible "delete everything and replace with something perverted" edits to be made easier to fix with the rollback. Occasionaly, a User will add bad infomation, which could have much more easily resolved with the rollback strength. And with ''358/2 Days'''s NA release, vandalism and bad information is going to be '''way''' up. Surely adding the rollback to some Users would aid the Wiki in dealing with vandals, the upcoming information flood, and just regular bad or unnecessary edits.
 
Also, what is the worst that could have happen if we give the rollback ability to some Users? Apparently, they will "feel a need to get on the Wiki more." Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Since when is spending more time working on the Wiki to make it better a '''bad''' thing? And if adding new mods isn't enough, than we could always make TNE, GS, or Ultima an admin! Or make Azul or BebopKate a buerocrat!}}
{{KrytenKoro|DTN, I'm the only one really attacking rollback, and I've ''always'' said it was a waste of time to give it to anyone.
 
Seriously, rollback does not speed anything up, and it keeps you from checking what you're doing - in fact, in the rare cases when someone ''does'' try to vandalize repeatedly and quickly, or corrects the bad information they had added, or if another editor undoes vandalism while you're messing with rollback, you will undo an edit other than the one you were trying to. Rollback is an artifact of when wiki's could only undo one change at a time - it is ''completely'' unnecessary and obsolete now, and the main wikia and wikipedia guidelines on it even admit that.
 
As for "feeling a need to get on the wiki more" - it's a waste of time to be arguing over which users would be given rollback, as it's not going to ''solve the problem this discussion was started to address''. It's perfectly lovely to encourage more editors to spend more time cleaning up the wiki, ''but that's not the problem we're trying to deal with''.}}