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{{EO|time=18:46, July 14, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=So I was away in Florida for two weeks, without access to a computer. Thus I'm very behind on things. It has recently been brought to my attention that the [[ | {{EO|time=18:46, July 14, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=So I was away in Florida for two weeks, without access to a computer. Thus I'm very behind on things. It has recently been brought to my attention that the [[KHWiki:Mirage Arena|Mirage Arena]] has been created. Seeing the forum where it was initially suggested by KingdomKeyDarkside on behalf of Redeemer & Destroyer, many users, including staffers approved of its creation. Now a "battle" between Sora and Riku is waged, people casting votes for their favorite character to win. Despite whatever rules have been established and how well things are going with it, some of us do not care for a DNC-style page here on the Wiki. I, for one, do not care for it for two reasons: | ||
#It distracts from article editing | #It distracts from article editing | ||
#It contradicts and poses many potential threats for the Wiki | #It contradicts and poses many potential threats for the Wiki | ||
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Frankly, I would in no way exclude users like Xion Valentine. That is a good quality user, one we need much more of.}} | Frankly, I would in no way exclude users like Xion Valentine. That is a good quality user, one we need much more of.}} | ||
{{KKD|axel=Frankly, the whole "500 edits" suggestion below is downright ridiculous, and to be perfectly and clearly honest, so is this forum. This thing hasn't been up for a week, and people are trying to tear it down like some ancient building that's in the way of something else? Insane. I do agree with what lego said, and it does need a lot of fixing-up. I'd say shutting it down right now would be '''''absolutely preposterous''''', and a waste of a potentially good idea. Personally, I think the best motion from here is to take it down for now, call this a "test week", to see how it went, and put a good month or two of honing in to make this as good as it can be. EDIT 22:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC): | {{KKD|axel=Frankly, the whole "500 edits" suggestion below is downright ridiculous, and to be perfectly and clearly honest, so is this forum. This thing hasn't been up for a week, and people are trying to tear it down like some ancient building that's in the way of something else? Insane. I do agree with what lego said, and it does need a lot of fixing-up. I'd say shutting it down right now would be '''''absolutely preposterous''''', and a waste of a potentially good idea. Personally, I think the best motion from here is to take it down for now, call this a "test week", to see how it went, and put a good month or two of honing in to make this as good as it can be. EDIT 22:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC): another thing I forgot. Not only is this forum ridiculous, but it is also hypocritical. If you're gonna go against something, ENX, try to avoid participating in it before trying to shut it down. Thanks. One more thing, you clearly didn't read the rules all the way through. And I quote:''"from newbies or whatever, who could just get 75 edits via '''talk pages''' or grammatical corrections,"'' Our rules clearly say that edits that count cannot come from talk pages.}} | ||
To be a contradiction the Arena did motivate me. I tried to vote when it first came up but I didn't have the edits and I was on vacation so I didn't have much time to do anything other check the forums quickly. Now that I'm home however I have spent a couple days attempting last month's cleanups, Days weapon articles, and I've gone through the game guide's list of Roxas' weapons. So to be contradictory the Arena did motivate some users into trying to make their quality edits. i have around 50 now, I think.--[[Memorized]] | |||
==New Rule Suggestions/Current Rule Improvement Suggestions== | ==New Rule Suggestions/Current Rule Improvement Suggestions== | ||
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{{Auror Andrachome|text= I think 500 is good, although the only reason I like that is because I have over 600! >=D}} | {{Auror Andrachome|text= I think 500 is good, although the only reason I like that is because I have over 600! >=D}} | ||
{{LA|Vtext=75 edits due to slower activity is a lie. When the Mirage Arena just came out, and the rules were in the first stage of developement, Redeemer, one of the founders of the Arena, didn't have 100 mainspace edits. It is simply that.}} | {{LA|Vtext=75 edits due to slower activity is a lie. When the Mirage Arena just came out, and the rules were in the first stage of developement, Redeemer, one of the founders of the Arena, didn't have 100 mainspace edits. It is simply that.}} | ||
{{TNE|time=00:26, July 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=The MA isn't going just yet, and the reason being, we can't dismiss it just like someone is dismissing the IRC channel. -___- What we're gonna have to do is this : | |||
We need to gather the regulars and agree on a proper edit count. 75 is few. I do realise, too, that this is a lot bigger than the side of Darkness, so constant monitoring is needed. If we have to lengthen the time, we'll make it two weeks, and the Joint Struggle will feature the 4 winners pitted against each other. | |||
Note that I'm saying this because I was thinking hard about this. The MA should be an ''incentive'' for people to edit, and at least, it seems so to some users as I've noticed. But some would abuse this as their only thing to edit. In the event this happens, if one person is only there for the Mirage Arena and nothing else, we can afford to monitor the Recent Changes. That person will equally be barred. If we want to get the MA up and running (and I know several people among us do), we've gotta get the people to ''work, vote, work, work, work, vote !''. | |||
To end, I must agree with what KKD said up there. As much as I see the potential in something, there's bound to be a few people who try bring it down. But I'm not giving up hope. I'm ''not'' reneging on this idea !}} | |||
{{SC|time=00:33, July 15, 2010 (UTC)|mad=TNE, I have no reason for it to die. I'm pretty sure I said it has some flaws. There are some things we need to change about it, but it's not that serious. It just has to fixed. A lot. But it doesn't have to die. Please don't misunderstand, guys. <small>This is my opinion, I do not talk for any others.</small>}} | |||
{{TNE|time=00:38, July 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=I understand. Thing is, it was deemed an antithesis to the wiki just a few days after we even got started. Fine that it has its flaws. But this assumption was based on the fact that there were a select few... or shall I say one... who were, or who was - ironfisted over policies. Now even such people would deem it to be the antithesis to the wiki. But I personally believe that given the right fixes and the right attention, this thing won't go to waste. After all...... 87% of the regulars agreed on it, and that's strong enough a majority. More than even two thirds.}} | |||
As I previously said, 500 is way too many edits. However, something along the lines of 150 or 200 would be more acceptable. Right now, I'm not too certain that we should keep the MA going for next week. Many problems arose, and need to be fixed before we can continue. Me and R&D are in agreement that this week is called as a "test week", as we launched the arena prematurely, and it was crippled due to that. In the meantime (which will probably be about a month), we'll focus on perfecting the rules and systems we use. There's no question about it coming back, but it will be better when it does. Questions? Concerns? Bring 'em up right here folks. {{KKDSig|1}} | |||
:I'll raise if I have any. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 03:10, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{R&D|time=23:49, July 18, 2010 (UTC)|dark=In response to this forum and the opinions presented in it the Mirage Arena shall be put on hold. The constant complain about the flaws on the rules and the needs of improviment will be considered. The MA will return once the rules have been discussed and improved and everything be fixed and arranged. I'll leave another message once everything is done.}} | |||
==New Rules== | |||
{{R&D|time=19:48, July 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=I have some new rules done. Check out and see if they are good: | |||
*You may vote only once. | |||
*You '''must be a registered user''' to vote. | |||
*<big>You must have at least '''125 quality edits''' before voting. Check your editcount Here, by typing in your username. ''After each week the counting will raise in 10 edits.''</big> | |||
*Please check for: '''Mainspace, Image, Main Page Template, Walkthrough, Card, Kingdom Hearts Wiki''' and '''MediaWiki''' edits. | |||
*''If you are not logged in when you vote, '''your vote will be removed.''''' | |||
*To vote, type the following "<nowiki>#~~~~</nowiki>", afterward including any reasons for voting you may wish to include. '''''If you do not sign your vote, it will be removed.''''' | |||
*Add your votes to the bottom of the list. '''''<font color=red>Please do not post anything offensive and/or extraordinarily lengthy or it will be removed.</font>''''' | |||
*If you wish to comment on the fight, please leave your remarks in the Keyblade Graveyard. You are expected to conduct yourself with courtesy. Comments must relate to the fight at hand. If the comment is flaming a character (Which may or may not start an extremely heated argument or fight), or another editor they shall be removed. | |||
*If the rule above is not followed the Keyblade Graveyard will be removed. The fight is between the contestants and not the users. | |||
*Do not alter the format of this page. | |||
*If the battle end with a tie a Sudden Death match will happen. During the time of 1 hour the users contestant that receives more votes win. | |||
*Sudden deaths matches start at random and may take place during another battle. | |||
'''''Any failure to adhere to these rules will result in your vote(s) being removed or loss of voting privileges. ''''' | |||
'''Vote Policy:''' | |||
''Please follow these guidelines when removing votes and taking away vote privileges.'' | |||
#The vote is removed. | |||
#The vote is removed and 1st warning message is sent to the talk page | |||
#The vote is removed, 2nd warning message is sent and loss of vote privilege to the next fight | |||
#3rd warning message is sent and loss of vote privileges for one month | |||
#4th warning message is sent and loss of votes privileges permanently.}} | |||
{{TNE|time=01:19, July 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=I got a question : Do the warning messages for MA differ from the normal warnings, or are we gonna use the normal warnings ?}} | |||
{{R&D|time=01:22, July 22, 2010 (UTC)|isee=We will use regular Talk Bubble warnings. The Warning Templates are for vandals... and we have many problems with the Admins about using them incorrectly. But if an Admin aproves, we could make Special MA Warning Templates... | |||
But for now, let's just stay with Talk bubble Messages.}} | |||
{{TNE|time=01:27, July 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alright, for now. But soon we'll come up with the MA warning messages... I guess. ^_^}} | |||
{{Keyblade0|time= July 22,2010|text=Great Rules! So far, I have 98 edits on the mainspace, 2 edits on the KH Wiki, and 9 edits on the walkthrough(I think)}} | |||