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::I agree. I think they should all be on the Bistro as a master page. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
::I agree. I think they should all be on the Bistro as a master page. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
So how and where should we continue with this? A single pages for every dish or the collected information on this page or on [[Le Grand Bistrot]]? --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 21:28, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
So how and where should we continue with this? A single pages for every dish or the collected information on this page or on [[Le Grand Bistrot]]? --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 21:28, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
:I think a table for the dishes would work best. Maybe split it by course, list the stats, recipe, and cooking minigame. I'm not sure if we should have all food related stuff on the bistro page. though. It makes sense to cover Full Course Bonus on the same page as the dishes, but dishes can also be bought from the shop, so they're not exclusive to the bistro minigames. Not sure about ingredients either. On one hand, they're closely related to both the dishes and the bistro. On the other hand, we also have separate pages for [[Flavors]] and [[Ice Cream]] (and I think that's a very similar case to the ingredients/dishes.) {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
::I made a start. The table will be quite big and most of the information is duplicated, the Ultimania splits it in two: General information and stat information (normal and ★★★ version differences).
::Should the mini games also be put on this page? I'm fine with ingredients being on a different pages, not sure about the whole story sections etc. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 11:05, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Made some adjustments to the table. The regular and + versions can share the ingredients and mini-game to avoid repetition. I think we should also have separate tables per course, so they don't get too long, and it's easier to find the dish you're looking for. We usually have separate pages for mini-games, but since these are so basic and short, we could just list them on the bistro page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
==Descriptions==
Because I know other wikis do this, and I'm a bit of fan of this myself, should we include the official descriptions of the dishes from the game in the table?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:08, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
:Aren't they already in the table? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:01, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
::Ah, my bad. I should've been more specific. By descriptions, I wasn't referring to the stats, but the description where it describes the each of the dish. Like for the ''tarte aux Fruits'', its description reads, "Crisp, crumbly shortbread crust, decadently crowned with a bounty of fruits. A Little Chef signature creation." Those descriptions aren't on the table nor are they under the list of dishes on the Le Grand Bistrot's page. I have access to all of the descriptions, so it would take a couple of minutes to include on the table.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
:::Bump. I'm not good with coding, but if someone can add an additional space to cover the dishes, I can add the food descriptions to them, if that's acceptable.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
::::I think that might be more suited for the Le Grand Bistrot page. We should replace the list of dishes there with a table so we can include the ingredients, mini-game, and those descriptions. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::Good idea! I was thinking something similar to how the Zelda Gamepedia and FFWiki did for their list of dishes.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 00:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
::::::All right, so to avoid having the same information on two pages, I moved some info from this page to the bistro page. This page now covers the food items (stats, prizes), while the bistro pages covers the mini-game aspects (ingredients, cooking game). I added (desc) in the table where the decriptions should go, so you know where to add them. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Which page would the redirects to the dishes go? There’s a case to be made that cuisine (the gameplay info) should be merged with the Le Grand Bistrot page (plot and synthesis). The Ice Cream page from BBS has already set a precedent for this. Thoughts? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 23:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, leave the descriptions to me! :D As for redirects... Hmm... I think it'd be simpler to have it merged, though I think redirects should be for the gameplay info since that's what players would care most about.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
==Rename or Redirect?==
I've stumbled across the [[Food]] page KrytenKoro made a while back, so I wanted to bring this up here when I checked the leading paragraph. Rather than '''Cuisine''', the intro seems to be written with the title of '''Food'''. So, do want to move the page to be "Food", or keep it as "Cuisine" and have the Food page be a redirect?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure the game calls it Cuisine, so we should keep it like this and rewrite the lead. I'm not sure if the term Food is used in-game, and if we should have it as a redirect if it isn't. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
::I'll give it a try. And yeah, I believe it's also called Cuisine in the game. I have no idea why KrytenKoro would just create a separate article for it and just stick a Merge template in it, if that's the case. I can just delete the page.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:38, 3 December 2020

So...do we want to start testing this? Or just wait for ultimania?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:21, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Also, I feel like it would make the most sense to have full course bonus, ingredients, and food covered on the same page -- but should we also cover the bistro minigames, and if so, should the master page be on the Bistro or Cuisine page?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:34, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
I agree. I think they should all be on the Bistro as a master page. TheFifteenthMember 20:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

So how and where should we continue with this? A single pages for every dish or the collected information on this page or on Le Grand Bistrot? --ShardofTruth 21:28, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

I think a table for the dishes would work best. Maybe split it by course, list the stats, recipe, and cooking minigame. I'm not sure if we should have all food related stuff on the bistro page. though. It makes sense to cover Full Course Bonus on the same page as the dishes, but dishes can also be bought from the shop, so they're not exclusive to the bistro minigames. Not sure about ingredients either. On one hand, they're closely related to both the dishes and the bistro. On the other hand, we also have separate pages for Flavors and Ice Cream (and I think that's a very similar case to the ingredients/dishes.) TheSilentHero 17:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
I made a start. The table will be quite big and most of the information is duplicated, the Ultimania splits it in two: General information and stat information (normal and ★★★ version differences).
Should the mini games also be put on this page? I'm fine with ingredients being on a different pages, not sure about the whole story sections etc. --ShardofTruth 11:05, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Made some adjustments to the table. The regular and + versions can share the ingredients and mini-game to avoid repetition. I think we should also have separate tables per course, so they don't get too long, and it's easier to find the dish you're looking for. We usually have separate pages for mini-games, but since these are so basic and short, we could just list them on the bistro page. TheSilentHero 14:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Descriptions[edit]

Because I know other wikis do this, and I'm a bit of fan of this myself, should we include the official descriptions of the dishes from the game in the table?--NinjaSheik 03:08, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Aren't they already in the table? TheSilentHero 10:01, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Ah, my bad. I should've been more specific. By descriptions, I wasn't referring to the stats, but the description where it describes the each of the dish. Like for the tarte aux Fruits, its description reads, "Crisp, crumbly shortbread crust, decadently crowned with a bounty of fruits. A Little Chef signature creation." Those descriptions aren't on the table nor are they under the list of dishes on the Le Grand Bistrot's page. I have access to all of the descriptions, so it would take a couple of minutes to include on the table.--NinjaSheik 02:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Bump. I'm not good with coding, but if someone can add an additional space to cover the dishes, I can add the food descriptions to them, if that's acceptable.--NinjaSheik 02:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
I think that might be more suited for the Le Grand Bistrot page. We should replace the list of dishes there with a table so we can include the ingredients, mini-game, and those descriptions. TheSilentHero 16:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Good idea! I was thinking something similar to how the Zelda Gamepedia and FFWiki did for their list of dishes.--NinjaSheik 00:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
All right, so to avoid having the same information on two pages, I moved some info from this page to the bistro page. This page now covers the food items (stats, prizes), while the bistro pages covers the mini-game aspects (ingredients, cooking game). I added (desc) in the table where the decriptions should go, so you know where to add them. TheSilentHero 12:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Which page would the redirects to the dishes go? There’s a case to be made that cuisine (the gameplay info) should be merged with the Le Grand Bistrot page (plot and synthesis). The Ice Cream page from BBS has already set a precedent for this. Thoughts? TheFifteenthMember 23:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, leave the descriptions to me! :D As for redirects... Hmm... I think it'd be simpler to have it merged, though I think redirects should be for the gameplay info since that's what players would care most about.--NinjaSheik 03:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Rename or Redirect?[edit]

I've stumbled across the Food page KrytenKoro made a while back, so I wanted to bring this up here when I checked the leading paragraph. Rather than Cuisine, the intro seems to be written with the title of Food. So, do want to move the page to be "Food", or keep it as "Cuisine" and have the Food page be a redirect?--NinjaSheik 03:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the game calls it Cuisine, so we should keep it like this and rewrite the lead. I'm not sure if the term Food is used in-game, and if we should have it as a redirect if it isn't. TheSilentHero 15:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I'll give it a try. And yeah, I believe it's also called Cuisine in the game. I have no idea why KrytenKoro would just create a separate article for it and just stick a Merge template in it, if that's the case. I can just delete the page.--NinjaSheik 01:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)