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::::::::::Not to mention, whether or not if Mr. Diskin was voicing YX or if Mr. David Gallagher was. Turned out, both of them did voice YX. Mr. Gallagher for the trailer/clip, but Mr. Diskin for the final production when the game was officially released, which he explained in that image on YX's talk page. Hopefully, this isn't the case with Mr. Johnston. And hopefully, he's still on the project and not fired for violating his NDA contract. Ethically, still feels wrong to use it, but if the wiki or any other site wants to use it, then that's that.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:46, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::Not to mention, whether or not if Mr. Diskin was voicing YX or if Mr. David Gallagher was. Turned out, both of them did voice YX. Mr. Gallagher for the trailer/clip, but Mr. Diskin for the final production when the game was officially released, which he explained in that image on YX's talk page. Hopefully, this isn't the case with Mr. Johnston. And hopefully, he's still on the project and not fired for violating his NDA contract. Ethically, still feels wrong to use it, but if the wiki or any other site wants to use it, then that's that.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:46, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
::::If Johnston had to delete his implied confirmation response to a person asking if he was Ephemer (he didn't delete the retweet, incidentally) because of a possible NDA violation, then what does this mean about the other two VAs, Quinn and Staples, who recently straight-up confirmed their voice roles - after even taking pictures of the recording booth? Haven't they violated their NDA worse? [[Special:Contributions/82.36.144.164|82.36.144.164]] 06:42, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
::::If Johnston had to delete his implied confirmation response to a person asking if he was Ephemer (he didn't delete the retweet, incidentally) because of a possible NDA violation, then what does this mean about the other two VAs, Quinn and Staples, who recently straight-up confirmed their voice roles - after even taking pictures of the recording booth? Haven't they violated their NDA worse? [[Special:Contributions/82.36.144.164|82.36.144.164]] 06:42, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
::::::No, it doesn't. Don't worry. After all, if they didn't delete, then that must mean that the company gave them permission to confirm it. NDA exists for a reason, and while it may not seem like a big deal to fans if an actor/actress confirms whether or not their roles are in a given production, the very fact NDA contracts exist is proof that it is a big deal to them and the people working on it. A lot of fans who follow productions of television series, movies, video games, etc. know that actors or actresses can't confirm anything unless given permission to do so. The very fact Mr. Johnston deleted his indirect confirmation is proof of that, but not Mr. Quinn or Mr. Staples, who, if they freely admitted, must have given permission to do so, even to post pics of the recording booths. [http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/01/24/jesse-mccartney-hints-at-kingdom-hearts-voice-work-likely-the-english-hd-remix/ I also recall when Mr. Jesse McCartney was recording Roxas for ''Days'' (or was it the ''Remix''?) he posted a pic of himself in the recording booth, too, on his Instagram, but he then deleted], probably because he wasn't supposed to do it without asking for permission.  
::::::No, it doesn't. Don't worry. After all, if they didn't delete, then that must mean that the company gave them permission to confirm it. NDA exists for a reason, and while it may not seem like a big deal to fans if an actor/actress confirms whether or not their roles are in a given production, the very fact NDA contracts exist is proof that it is a big deal to them and the people working on it. A lot of fans who follow productions of television series, movies, video games, etc. know that actors or actresses can't confirm anything unless given permission to do so. The very fact Mr. Johnston deleted his indirect confirmation is proof of that, but not Mr. Quinn or Mr. Staples, who, if they freely admitted, must have given permission to do so, even to post pics of the recording booths. [http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/01/24/jesse-mccartney-hints-at-kingdom-hearts-voice-work-likely-the-english-hd-remix/ I also recall when Mr. Jesse McCartney was recording Roxas for the ''Remix'' he posted a pic of himself in the recording booth, too, on his Instagram, but he then deleted], probably because he wasn't supposed to do it without asking for permission.  
:::::Bottom line is this: Cast announcements is all timing and preparations. It's okay for actors/actresses to give out hints to fans and teased them about it, but nothing too telling, [https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/4n817f/kh28_matthew_mercer_just_liked_my_tweet_asking_if/ similarly to how Mr. Matthew Mercer just liked a tweet when a fan asked if voiced] [[Foreteller Ira]] after the trailer came out. He didn't confirm it, nor did he really deny it. Mr. Mercer is a very experienced VA, so he knows how the process works. Mr. Johnston made a mistake when he indirectly confirmed he's voicing Ephemer so soon after the trailer was released; Mr. Mercer, on the other hand, did not confirm not deny he's voicing Ira, which what Mr. Johnston should've done. Enough time has passed, so if two VAs confirmed their roles and haven't take off the tweets yet, then it means they got permission to do so.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Bottom line is this: Cast announcements is all timing and preparations. It's okay for actors/actresses to give out hints to fans and teased them about it, but nothing too telling, [https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/4n817f/kh28_matthew_mercer_just_liked_my_tweet_asking_if/ similarly to how Mr. Matthew Mercer just liked a tweet when a fan asked if voiced] [[Foreteller Ira]] after the trailer came out. He didn't confirm it, nor did he really deny it. Mr. Mercer is a very experienced VA, so he knows how the process works. Mr. Johnston made a mistake when he indirectly confirmed he's voicing Ephemer so soon after the trailer was released; Mr. Mercer, on the other hand, did not confirm nor deny he's voicing Ira, which what Mr. Johnston should've done. Enough time has passed, so if two VAs confirmed their roles and haven't take off the tweets yet, then it means they got permission to do so.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::::: Ah, so the problem with Johnston was his saying actual words - not explicit words, but words nonetheless - either too early or without having the same individual permission? (Again, his retweet, which implies just as much as his original tweet and was made the same day, has not been removed.) [[Special:Contributions/82.36.144.164|82.36.144.164]] 11:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::::: Ah, so the problem with Johnston was his saying actual words - not explicit words, but words nonetheless - either too early or without having the same individual permission? (Again, his retweet, which implies just as much as his original tweet and was made the same day, has not been removed.) [[Special:Contributions/82.36.144.164|82.36.144.164]] 11:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes. In fact, the thing about Mr. McCartney releasing that image was noted on the ''Remix'' page that it was taken down when Square Enix was notified of it, which further proves that actors/actress shouldn't confirm anything unless they given permission to do. If Mr. Johnston had asked prior to indirectly confirming his role, then he wouldn't have deleted it. Again, to fans, it's not a big deal, because we think, "Yay, he's voicing this character!" and that's it. But obviously, it is a big deal to his boss(es), hence the reason why taken it off in the first place.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:39, 4 July 2016 (UTC)


==Typo==
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::::::True, but Sora is Japanese, compared to Ephemera which is an English word adapted from either Latin or Greek. And I personally prefer Ephemer to Ephemera. In my opinion, I think it sounds better as a boy's name. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 00:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
::::::True, but Sora is Japanese, compared to Ephemera which is an English word adapted from either Latin or Greek. And I personally prefer Ephemer to Ephemera. In my opinion, I think it sounds better as a boy's name. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 00:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::It's not a "made-up name", not according to the actual page. Ephemera is a real word, it's just not used as a name often, if ever. It doesn't sound masculine to me for two reasons. Firstly, because not a lot of male names end with the letter "a" in English to my knowledge. And secondly because Ephemera sounds like effeminate, which literally means unmanly. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 00:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::It's not a "made-up name", not according to the actual page. Ephemera is a real word, it's just not used as a name often, if ever. It doesn't sound masculine to me for two reasons. Firstly, because not a lot of male names end with the letter "a" in English to my knowledge. And secondly because Ephemera sounds like effeminate, which literally means unmanly. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 00:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
::::::[http://www.behindthename.com/name/ephemera/submitted Further proof]. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 03:35, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
== Erased Memories ==
The line "''Ephemer and Skuld bring Player to the new world, where Player's memories, along with the memories of the other Dandelions, are erased upon arrival.''" should be changed to say that only the memories of the Keyblade War happening were erased. Otherwise, if they were all indeed erased, then it has to be stated that they relived those memories up until the Keyblade War. I'm not sure myself which of the two is correct. [[User:Diamonddeath|Diamonddeath]] ([[User talk:Diamonddeath|talk]]) 00:59, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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