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You guys should include videos where Sora faces Vexen the first time and when Riku faces Vexen.
You guys should include videos where Sora faces Vexen the first time and when Riku faces Vexen.
[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 21:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)winxfan1
[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 21:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
 
==Stats please ???==
{{TNE|time=14:03, February 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=The code for NobodyBoss is still inside the page, but no one's taken the time to put in the stats. Anyone who has Ultimania or access to the stats, please help !}}
 
== Anti-Sora? ==
 
{{UE|time=01:00, September 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Umm... Under the tabs for Vexen's stats and stuff, why is Anti-Sora there? Is that a coding error or what? I'd fix it, but I don't know how, and I don't want to ruin anything.}}
::Anti-Soras can be summoned by Vexen's Absent Silhouette and Data Replica. The tabs for it and the Frozen Pride simply need to be moved to the KH2FM battles, not the CoM one. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 01:02, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
{{UE|time=01:07, September 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Oh all right (alright??? >.>). Maybe I should have read the article first then.}}
{{ShardofTruth|time=16:39, September 2, 2010 (UTC)|talk=It's not Anti Sora or AntiSora, the Japanese name is {{nihongo|Clone Sora|クローンソラ|Kuron Sora}}. He has 5 HP Levels:
*Absent Silhouette: LV1: 100, LV2: 160, LV3: 250, LV4: 350, LV5: 450
*Replica Data: LV1: 181, LV2: 290, LV3: 453, LV4: 634, LV5: 815}}
::The Clone Sora is a Heartless though, right? If not, we need to remove it from [[Heartless]] and modify the [[Twilight Town]] article.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:47, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 
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==Video==
{{Bananaphone|text=Should we change the boss battle for the second time you fight him in the original COM? It's just fire raid over and over. Could we add a video with more variety of attacks?}}
 
==Category misplacement==
{{Serrix|time=21:15, 10 June 2011 (EDT)|text=Um... first off, the only real reasons I can see Vexen being in the Heartless category is that he summons the "Clone Soras" mentioned above, or that he uses Heartless cards in CoM and Re:CoM... and even then, he's in the C section of the Heartless category... I don't know how to fix this yet, so can someone do so?}}
:The article is there because of the Clone Soras. It cannot be fixed.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:17, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
 
== COM sleights ==
 
Can someone check Vexen's sleights in COM? Right now only ReCOM is covered. I can see we need at least Iceburn (M+M+A) and the COM version of Freeze (M+A+M).  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:07, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
::I think it's only Iceburn, Freeze, the Icicle Sleight, and Diamond Dust ( Diamond Dust exclusive to ''Reverse/Rebirth''). - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
:Ice Needles is the same as in ReCOM (M+M+M). Haven't seen Diamond Dust yet.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
::Ice Needles is only used in Sora's second match and the combination for Diamond Dust (used only with Riku is in Dark Mode it seems) is (A+M+M), as in ReCoM. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] ([[User talk:ShardofTruth|talk]]) 17:55, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== A Glitch?! ==
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dprIU336DsA&hd=1 AuronSuper95 states that there's a possible glitch with Vexen only in the 2.5 version of KHII Final Mix. I sorta want some help in confirming what it is and have some help for pointers on how to edit it on his boss page. --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 05:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
:Describe the glitch.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
::To quote AuronSuper95 in the vid description: "In 2.5 there's a glitch where the ice blades disappear and become invisible and they seem to move to center of the area (which is inside the gate). With this said you can get randomly hit, although it's not as bad as the Data version, I had to throw away 3 attempts because of it. You can notice it in the video somewhere."
::In all honesty, I'm a bit too blind to notice the glitch, and I don't think I can find any other sources for it. And it seems that through google searching up "vexen glitch" he even has a glitch in Re: Chain of Memories...AND the original KHIIFM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6dBnQ4isYo&hd=1 --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 18:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
:::I guess the most important thing is: is it reproducable? It could just be the PS3's fault, not the game.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:55, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I hear 2.5 Remix has a ton of problems, like long loading times and not to mention the Drive Form transformations and Command Style activations take longer; for the former most people have to pause buffer it somewhat to speed it up. --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 19:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
::The command styles taking longer actually gives me time to think my actions. However, this Vexen glitch I haven't encountered. {{User:Master Riku the Bloody/Sig1}} 19:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
:::I found it: http://youtu.be/dprIU336DsA?t=1m11s Look at past the gate of the mansion when he summons his frozen snowflakes. And for the Command Style lag, it's justified; unlike Drive Form transformations they don't give knockback, which prompts more use of using it as an invincible power-up-like reversal (hello Blood Kain), while with Drive Form taking advantage of the knockback means you have to be quick by your first impression and natural decision, or you simply just want to clear a fight very fast for a time record. --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 19:06, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Considering how long they took in the original game, and how it has that lag for Finish commands too, I'm honestly pretty certain it's just a loading issue. There's not been any consistent timing to it, in my experience, it's just generally "the first time you use this command since you started the PS3, it will take time to load".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
::::Oh derp, and I realized, Drive Form transformations happen in real time, Command Style activations do not (they freeze during during activation). HOW WAS I STUPID ENOUGH TO NOT REALIZE THAT DEFINITIVE DIFFERENCE? NO WONDER PEOPLE PAUSE BUFFER FOR SAFETY IN 2.5 REMIX! XP --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 04:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)77
 
==Clone Sora/AntiForm==
Are we sure he is actually a Nobody? Someone should kill him with Final Form and/or Wisdom Form to check if he is a Nobody, a Heartless or a Somebody, because I doubt Replicas are made in the same way AS/RD Vexen create Clone Sora/AntiForm, so for me is better check that--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.192.173|93.150.192.173]] 17:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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Issues: Provide Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix stats for Clone Sora

Does[edit]

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Spievack - The REAL Ansem.
TALK - REAL ice cream.
Does this really still need expansion? Looks like a full article to me.


Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png Methinks it's full too.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}

Keyblade-Blk.png It's missing an introduction and some videos, but I'll take care of it. ;)


Symbol - Honey Pot.png
FA icon.png Thank you. You're true to your username, as I can see. ^_^

It is rather funny what I would do for honey. TroisNyxÉtienne

DaysZexion.png
Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello?

It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}

Keyblade-Blk.png Taken care of. =]
Someone should fill in his HP, though.


Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png Taken a look at the video ? Just a question : how many HP does one bar have ? Guys, I'm so not good at this.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

You guys should include videos where Sora faces Vexen the first time and when Riku faces Vexen. Winxfan1 21:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

Stats please ???[edit]

Symbol Character - Mickey.png
FA icon.png The code for NobodyBoss is still inside the page, but no one's taken the time to put in the stats. Anyone who has Ultimania or access to the stats, please help !

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne — 14:03, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Sora?[edit]

DaysVexen.png
UnknownEnigma - In the meantime, would you be interested in meeting another who is considered a hero?
TALK - Your existence is worth nothing!
Umm... Under the tabs for Vexen's stats and stuff, why is Anti-Sora there? Is that a coding error or what? I'd fix it, but I don't know how, and I don't want to ruin anything.
Anti-Soras can be summoned by Vexen's Absent Silhouette and Data Replica. The tabs for it and the Frozen Pride simply need to be moved to the KH2FM battles, not the CoM one. - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 01:02, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


DaysVexen.png
UnknownEnigma - In the meantime, would you be interested in meeting another who is considered a hero?
TALK - Your existence is worth nothing!
Oh all right (alright??? >.>). Maybe I should have read the article first then.
XMbQaeM.png
ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 16:39, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
Game Clear Data KHRECOM.png It's not Anti Sora or AntiSora, the Japanese name is Clone Sora (クローンソラ Kuron Sora?). He has 5 HP Levels:
  • Absent Silhouette: LV1: 100, LV2: 160, LV3: 250, LV4: 350, LV5: 450
  • Replica Data: LV1: 181, LV2: 290, LV3: 453, LV4: 634, LV5: 815
The Clone Sora is a Heartless though, right? If not, we need to remove it from Heartless and modify the Twilight Town article."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:47, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Video[edit]

Oogie (Talk sprite) 1 KHCOM.png
Bananaphone1996 - Cause I'm a gamblin' bogeyman, although I don't play fair!
TALK - Look's like it's Oogie's turn to boogie now!
Should we change the boss battle for the second time you fight him in the original COM? It's just fire raid over and over. Could we add a video with more variety of attacks?

Category misplacement[edit]

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Serrix - *squeep*
TALK - Gravity Arts obtained! — 21:15, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
Um... first off, the only real reasons I can see Vexen being in the Heartless category is that he summons the "Clone Soras" mentioned above, or that he uses Heartless cards in CoM and Re:CoM... and even then, he's in the C section of the Heartless category... I don't know how to fix this yet, so can someone do so?
The article is there because of the Clone Soras. It cannot be fixed."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:17, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

COM sleights[edit]

Can someone check Vexen's sleights in COM? Right now only ReCOM is covered. I can see we need at least Iceburn (M+M+A) and the COM version of Freeze (M+A+M). --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:07, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it's only Iceburn, Freeze, the Icicle Sleight, and Diamond Dust ( Diamond Dust exclusive to Reverse/Rebirth). - Challenge Sigil KHD.pngEternal Nothingness XIIIChallenge Sigil KHD.png 17:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Ice Needles is the same as in ReCOM (M+M+M). Haven't seen Diamond Dust yet. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Ice Needles is only used in Sora's second match and the combination for Diamond Dust (used only with Riku is in Dark Mode it seems) is (A+M+M), as in ReCoM. --ShardofTruth (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

A Glitch?![edit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dprIU336DsA&hd=1 AuronSuper95 states that there's a possible glitch with Vexen only in the 2.5 version of KHII Final Mix. I sorta want some help in confirming what it is and have some help for pointers on how to edit it on his boss page. --SneaselSawashiro (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Describe the glitch."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
To quote AuronSuper95 in the vid description: "In 2.5 there's a glitch where the ice blades disappear and become invisible and they seem to move to center of the area (which is inside the gate). With this said you can get randomly hit, although it's not as bad as the Data version, I had to throw away 3 attempts because of it. You can notice it in the video somewhere."
In all honesty, I'm a bit too blind to notice the glitch, and I don't think I can find any other sources for it. And it seems that through google searching up "vexen glitch" he even has a glitch in Re: Chain of Memories...AND the original KHIIFM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6dBnQ4isYo&hd=1 --SneaselSawashiro (talk) 18:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I guess the most important thing is: is it reproducable? It could just be the PS3's fault, not the game."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:55, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I hear 2.5 Remix has a ton of problems, like long loading times and not to mention the Drive Form transformations and Command Style activations take longer; for the former most people have to pause buffer it somewhat to speed it up. --SneaselSawashiro (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
The command styles taking longer actually gives me time to think my actions. However, this Vexen glitch I haven't encountered. RikutheBloody 19:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I found it: http://youtu.be/dprIU336DsA?t=1m11s Look at past the gate of the mansion when he summons his frozen snowflakes. And for the Command Style lag, it's justified; unlike Drive Form transformations they don't give knockback, which prompts more use of using it as an invincible power-up-like reversal (hello Blood Kain), while with Drive Form taking advantage of the knockback means you have to be quick by your first impression and natural decision, or you simply just want to clear a fight very fast for a time record. --SneaselSawashiro (talk) 19:06, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Considering how long they took in the original game, and how it has that lag for Finish commands too, I'm honestly pretty certain it's just a loading issue. There's not been any consistent timing to it, in my experience, it's just generally "the first time you use this command since you started the PS3, it will take time to load"."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh derp, and I realized, Drive Form transformations happen in real time, Command Style activations do not (they freeze during during activation). HOW WAS I STUPID ENOUGH TO NOT REALIZE THAT DEFINITIVE DIFFERENCE? NO WONDER PEOPLE PAUSE BUFFER FOR SAFETY IN 2.5 REMIX! XP --SneaselSawashiro (talk) 04:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)77

Clone Sora/AntiForm[edit]

Are we sure he is actually a Nobody? Someone should kill him with Final Form and/or Wisdom Form to check if he is a Nobody, a Heartless or a Somebody, because I doubt Replicas are made in the same way AS/RD Vexen create Clone Sora/AntiForm, so for me is better check that--93.150.192.173 17:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)