Talk:Randall Boggs: Difference between revisions

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'''::"You do have a point about Waternoose. Other character articles mention non-KH characters in the origin sections."
'''::"You do have a point about Waternoose. Other character articles mention non-KH characters in the origin sections."
::But as I said earlier, Kryten's quote: "''Waternoose is not a KH character and doesn't need to be covered here'''" just contradicts and "retcons" some of the other character article pages like [[Stitch]] and/or more recently [[Little Chef]], [[Wreck-It Ralph]] pages that had mentions of characters who haven't appeared in the KH series under the origins section previously (e.g. Lilo for Stitch, Linguini for Little Chef, Vanellope for Wreck-It Ralph). So frankly it makes no sense to have it dismissed and thrown under the buss completely.--[[Special:Contributions/76.183.116.30|76.183.116.30]] 00:51, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
::But as I said earlier, Kryten's quote: "''Waternoose is not a KH character and doesn't need to be covered here'''" just contradicts and "retcons" some of the other character article pages like [[Stitch]] and/or more recently [[Little Chef]], [[Wreck-It Ralph]] pages that had mentions of characters who haven't appeared in the KH series under the origins section previously (e.g. Lilo for Stitch, Linguini for Little Chef, Vanellope for Wreck-It Ralph). So frankly it makes no sense to have it dismissed and thrown under the buss completely.--[[Special:Contributions/76.183.116.30|76.183.116.30]] 00:51, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
:::"when some users try to expand the pages that have been stubs for months just have them pushed aside all just because "it's regurgitated" or the scene "is not needed" regardless if that scene happened in the game."
::::"script regurgitation" means that someone is just describing the stage movements, and quoting exact lines, from the characters, instead of writing in an encyclopedic style that summarizes the ''purpose'' of the scenes and actually informs the reader. It's bad writing and it makes the wiki look bad. There's also nothing "hypocritical" about pointing that out. It's better for an article to be marked as incomplete, than to have a section that reads like a child wrote it.
::::" so I don't see why to omit it completely and throw this under the bus"
:::::It's not being ommitted. It's part of the "force him to go back through his repaired door". The passage is describing the ''meaning'' of what's going on, rather than exact stage movements.
:::::If you describe the scene to your friend as "Sulley roared at Randall", they're going to think "So?" If you describe it as "Sulley forced Randall to go back through his door", they will actually understand the point of the scene. The point of the scene wasn't that Sulley just wanted to roar, it was that Sulley was subduing Randall so they could send him back through his door. "As he angrily kicks the destroyed machine, Sulley roars at him." is script regurgitation that is redundant to the following sentence.
:::::"preventing Randall from returning." -- this clause is aggressively redundant to the previous sentence. It's already implicit that this is the purpose of Sora locking the door.
:::::"Before Sulley can destroy the door" -- phrasing it this way implies that Sora is trying to compete with Sulley. "This time" instead implies that Sora is suggesting an alternative solution.
:::::Including the comma between "film" and the movie title is not grammatically correct as far as I can find.
:::::What other Disney character articles do should ''not'' be the metric for what is proper to do. What the MoS says to do should be. I disagree with going into to much non-KH detail, as "Mr. Waternoose" isn't going to mean much to a reader unless they already know what the Origin section is trying to inform them. However, I would support it if we used the main template to link to the movie's wikipedia article ''within'' the origin section, in addition to the lede -- that way, we're providing the reader a clear way to inform themselves on the jargon we're using.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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