Talk:The Experiment

Should this be titled "Experiment" or is it officially called the Experiment in Jiminy's Journal? Randomnessity Ho, Ho, Ho.... How foolhardy you are to dare challenge me, KRAKEN the FIEND of the Water!

LevL Fear my mighty instruments! — 17:50, March 13, 2010 (UTC) According to the Journal, it is called The Experiment.

All right. Good to know. Since that's the official name that's the way it should stay. Randomnessity The Fiend of Wind, who dominates the heavens from her lofty perch

I dunno, starting a page with "the" is pretty dumb in my opinion.—Urutapu 22:59, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

I believe that if there is an article in the official records, then it should start with the article. I mean, come on... It does sound a little weird ; but when I compare with my second most familiar version - Radiant Garden and Jardin Radieux (no article), The Experiment and L’Expérience (definite article). Well of course, there are going to be discrepancies for characters like the Beast, who is simply called Beast in the English version, and other characters like the Prince and the Queen (Dwarf Woodlands characters have this anomaly, I've noticed). So where there is going to be an assumption that you're talking about something in general (like, which prince, and which queen ?), it's best to have an article. I stand corrected, and I'm waiting for the English release of BBS to see what they come up with. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:56, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living." TALK - We could move "Prince" to whatever name he has in the Disney materials, which would ease confusion between "Prince Philip" and the article that was formerly known as "Prince".

Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — 03:43, March 14, 2010 (UTC)   He has a name?

Poor Experiment

Lying Memories - I'd rather we just skip the formalities. TALK - The Darkness in men's hearts, drawn to these cursed medallions; and this Heartless, a veritable maelstrom of avarice: I wonder, are they worthy to serve Organization XIII? - Lying Memories 01:10, August 6, 2010 (UTC) I gotta be honest here, I seriously felt bad for The Experiment, looking for a heart, never receiving one, only to be bashed and beaten by Sora and company. I feel the same for most of the Organization, but the Experiment had no malice behind its actions.

FMII

What is Sora's prize in FMII?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:52, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

HP increase. RikutheBloody 19:59, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Heartless

Hi, guys, I only want to say to you The Experiment is officially an Heartless, if you press pause during the battle the info say "Defeat the artificial HEARTLESS made by Dr. Finkelstein... bla bla bla", yhea, you can say "but it can be an error", yhea, that CAN be an error, but, look what I found. http://www.destinyislands.com/kh-tcg/endless-darkness/ The Experiment card is classified as a "Heartless", and I doubt they made for 2 times the same error. So I think he is a Heartless.--189.39.241.193 21:33, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Artificial Heartless =/= Heartless. It's a mechanical creation, and wasn't made either from the darkness of a heart or the typical Emblem manufacturing process. I also wouldn't use the word of the TCG as law. Chitalian8 13:07, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

It's not a Heartless, but we should still mention it's designed to be an artificial Heartless.67.236.72.165 17:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Guys, I was quite interested about the Experiment's race, and I want to see a thing to have the ultimate proof if he is a Heartless or not, and he IS a Heartless. Why? Well, there is 3 proofs of this:

• 1-During the battle if you put the game in pausa will call him "Heartless"
• 2-In TCG he is classified as Heartless (not Villain, Villain have a dark flame symbol, Heartless have the Heartless symbol, and The Experiment have the Heartless symbol in his card)
• 3-This is the ultimate proof. I noticed that the Wisdom and Final Form gain experience even if you kill Heartless boss (for Wisdom) and Nobodies (for Final), I noticed this because I unlocked the Final Form against Xigbar and kill him, and after the battle I noticed the Final Form had 1 EXP even if I killed just Xigbar with it. So I wanted to do this experiment with The Experiment too, using the Wisdom Form, resulting... The Experiment GIVE EXP to Wisdom Form, proving he is definively a Heartless (I thinked Hostile Program too was a Heartless and I do the same thing, but Hostile Program DON'T give EXP per WF), so The Experiment is a Heartless. If you don't belive me, please go to check yourself--186.237.40.21 21:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Well, that's certainly interesting. It's still weird that it's not covered in the Heartless section of the journal, which seems to indicate as discussed in the article that it has qualities of a Heartless without being fully a Heartless, sort of like the Soul Eater's situation. We should do a check with all the unspecified bosses in this game, I think."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I think is not covered in Heartless section just because The Experiment in the second visit of HT is a true character, I mean, all the second visit is focused about The Experiment, others Heartless bosses you just defeat them and over there. I suspect the Scar's Ghost too is a Heartless, but since in Pride Lands I cannot use fusions, is impossible to verify without doubt... but for the Experiment, how we can see, there is 3 different proofs that indicate he is a Heartless, and the fact he appear in the character section in the journal, is just because he is in fact a true character in-game, with a role in the story, so I suggest to change the template to be a Heartless and insert him in Heartless bosses template and Heartless page--186.237.43.36 11:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the KH2 Ultimania refers to the Experiment, Scar, and Phantom Scar(s) as "Others" (anything that isn't Heartless or Nobody) in the enemy section. Ultima Spark (talk) 06:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The game refering him as a Heartless in both pause menu and the Wisdom Form gain EXP from him, plus, the card game too refering him as a Heartless. And 3 > 1, so, why give importance to one proof that is out of the game instead of 3 proofs (bigger number) that 2 are in-game and 1 is out of the game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎186.237.43.36 (talk • contribs)

The game calls him an artificial Heartless, the card game has other errors, and Wisdom Form EXP gain is a semi-hidden stat that focuses on mechanical effect rather than narrative role. Meanwhile, the ultimania section that labels it as "Other", as well as its placement in the Journal, demonstrates narrative role."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:08, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Even Ansem, the Organization and others are in the character section, but because they are Heartless, Noboedies, ecc... that have the role of true characters, The Experiment is the same. Look like you are trying to say "but Ultimania said that", ok, but we have others 3 officials proofs that say he is an Heartless, that seems you prefer to ignoring and 3 > 1, the character section don't mean nothing, just mean he is a character and not just a boss, and this is true. And say "but the WF exp is a sami-hidden thing" too don't mean nothing, is there, Square do that. Why the Experiment give EXP and any other boss no-Heartless don't? How he is was created too don't mean nothing. Shadow Soras was created by Riku with a snap of his fingers, but they are Heartless, even if created in different way from others for exemple. Xion was created in a different way from the others Nobodies, but she is still a Nobody, so the creation way is not so much important to say "he is/not a Heartless/Nobody/ecc..." even the Spirit of the Magic Mirror was created with a potion, and is totally different from others Unversed--186.237.43.36 17:24, 13 August 2018 (UTC)