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*The KHInsider article ''only'' used the term "Rider" in the context of KHInsider ''itself'' talking about the trailer. They were not reporting on information coming from an official source. The level of authority that statement had would be equivalent to them calling him "that sexy hunk" or "that guy we want to see covered in nothing but baby oil". It's not a primary source for the name, and it's still ''completely'' possible for Square to choose to leave out "Rider", just as they did with [[Sultan]] Hamed Bobolonius II, Tick-Tock the [[Crocodile]], [[Yuffie]] Kisaragi, [[Aerith]] Gainsborough, [[Tifa]] Lockhart, [[Cloud]] Strife, [[Cid]] Highwind, [[Zack]] Fair, [[Selphie]] Tilmitt, [[Seifer]] Almasy, [[Vivi]] Ornitier, [[Setzer]] Gabbiani, [[Maleficent's Raven|Diablo]], [[The Prince|Prince Florian]], [[Prince Charming|Prince Kit]], [[The Queen|Queen Grimhilde]], [[Captain Barbossa|Captain Hector Barbossa]], [[Captain Hook|Captain James Bartholomew Hook]], [[Gaston]] LeGume, etc. | *The KHInsider article ''only'' used the term "Rider" in the context of KHInsider ''itself'' talking about the trailer. They were not reporting on information coming from an official source. The level of authority that statement had would be equivalent to them calling him "that sexy hunk" or "that guy we want to see covered in nothing but baby oil". It's not a primary source for the name, and it's still ''completely'' possible for Square to choose to leave out "Rider", just as they did with [[Sultan]] Hamed Bobolonius II, Glut [[the Shark]], Tick-Tock the [[Crocodile]], [[Yuffie]] Kisaragi, [[Aerith]] Gainsborough, [[Tifa]] Lockhart, [[Cloud]] Strife, [[Cid]] Highwind, [[Zack]] Fair, [[Selphie]] Tilmitt, [[Seifer]] Almasy, [[Vivi]] Ornitier, [[Setzer]] Gabbiani, [[Maleficent's Raven|Diablo]], [[The Prince|Prince Florian]], [[Prince Charming|Prince Kit]], [[The Queen|Queen Grimhilde]], [[Captain Barbossa|Captain Hector Barbossa]], [[Captain Hook|Captain James Bartholomew Hook]], [[Gaston]] LeGume, etc. | ||
*The Japanese articles have ''explicitly'' talked about Maleficent, Pete, and Hades as being ''part of a group of Disney Villains'', like the Ultimanias and first game do. If Maleficent has some kind of supra-role outside of that group in the finished game, ''we have no sources for that yet'', and honestly, that's pretty much the role she's had since the beginning, just with heavy turnover in that group -- which is why the Ultimanias have consistently talked about her as part of the "Disney Villains" group, which is distinct from simply being an antagonist in a Disney movie. See page 9 of the Memorial Ultimania. She is the Xemnas of that group, even if the only name we've gotten for it is the out-of-universe name "Villains". Repeatedly removing her from that grouping would be like removing Young and Master Xehanort from the new Organization XIII simply because they have a "bigger role" in the Organization's activities -- they're still members, and they are still acting in concert.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:12, 30 March 2018 (UTC) | *The Japanese articles have ''explicitly'' talked about Maleficent, Pete, and Hades as being ''part of a group of Disney Villains'', like the Ultimanias and first game do. If Maleficent has some kind of supra-role outside of that group in the finished game, ''we have no sources for that yet'', and honestly, that's pretty much the role she's had since the beginning, just with heavy turnover in that group -- which is why the Ultimanias have consistently talked about her as part of the "Disney Villains" group, which is distinct from simply being an antagonist in a Disney movie. See page 9 of the Memorial Ultimania. She is the Xemnas of that group, even if the only name we've gotten for it is the out-of-universe name "Villains". Repeatedly removing her from that grouping would be like removing Young and Master Xehanort from the new Organization XIII simply because they have a "bigger role" in the Organization's activities -- they're still members, and they are still acting in concert.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:12, 30 March 2018 (UTC) | ||
::I'd like to add to the first point that Flynn's real name isn't even Flynn Rider. His name is actually "Eugene Fitzherbert", and if that name does end up in the game somewhere, that's what we should call the page, according to our rules (see [[Squall Leonhart]] or [[Daisukenojo Bito]]). So until we get a release, we can't know what to call the page. And if people keep on edit warring about it, I'm locking the template again. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC) | ::I'd like to add to the first point that Flynn's real name isn't even Flynn Rider. His name is actually "Eugene Fitzherbert", and if that name does end up in the game somewhere, that's what we should call the page, according to our rules (see [[Squall Leonhart]] or [[Daisukenojo Bito]]). So until we get a release, we can't know what to call the page. And if people keep on edit warring about it, I'm locking the template again. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC) |
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