User talk:Byzantinefire

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You've been blocked two weeks for provoking Ignis when warned not to. Honestly, being around corrupted wikias like the Narutopedia, the One Piece Wiki, and not to mention all the stories I've heard on the DBZ Wiki, Bleach Wiki, and just wikias I visit, I've always hated when users engage if arguments when it comes to deciding whether something is a provocation or not, because on those wikias, discussions like that tend to get very heated and very messy quickly. I have always assumed good faith with you and Ignis, especially Ignis, despite his previous warnings by both KrytenKoro and Neumannz, as you can see on his talk page.. You yourself have received unofficial warnings from users in the past about your conduct, but most were done in 2014, and it felt wrong to judge you for it since we're now in 2017 and you have shown to improved your behavior since then and have been friendly with other users since then - until Ignis appeared and the two of you started butting heads, that is. Even so, you were pretty reasonable, apologizing for your behavior after the first warning to both me and Ultima Spark, and Ignis made it very clear that he was trying to get you banned from this wiki permanently, even though other users voiced that doing was too extreme, because you didn't do anything wrong or, at least, didn't mean to do so at first. I know I've said this before, but you never really approached users with the intent of malicious or rude, and only becoming aggressive when someone doesn't agree with you. Things between you and Ignis have only really escalated when you started talking to me on my talk page, and Ignis came in and the situation worsened from there. I know you said you didn't mean to provoke Ignis, but you really should have just avoided him. Therefore, the block. It's your first block, so two weeks seems appropriate. It's your decision on whether or not to return once it's over. And keep in mind about what I said before about being more mindful on your behavior in the future. In some ways, this wiki is corrupted, too, and I do not wish to be seen like certain admins on other wikias (as you edit on the Narutopedia like I did, you know what type of users I am referring to). Please understand.--NinjaSheik 20:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

I will be on Discord if you want to talk to me. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:08, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for taking this well. I do not like blocking/banning people, as I said numerous times before. I don't feel good about it, believe me. You have taken the full brunt of Ignis's discontent, and many of the reasons why he verbally abused was most certainly unwarranted and very ridiculous. I do not wish to be seen like an unreasonable tyrant like the type of users we are very familiar with across multiple wikias, and I do hope you do not view me as such. If you want talk to me, we can meet on the IRC. The block is just for a short time, and I think it may be good for you to take some time off from it after all of the drama has passed. Again, thank you for being understanding about this thing and very reasonable.--NinjaSheik 20:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Your welcome. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 20:32, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Re: Question

I feel awful that you could even suggest such a thing i have experienced that horrible and cruel action too many times. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

That's your decision to feel that way. You fully deserved the block, and I hope you learn from it. This attempt at emotional manipulation instead of showing any kind of understanding and remorse for why you were blocked is supremely unimpressive, and I would personally prefer that you do not return until you actually understand why you were blocked and make a commitment not to violate the rules again."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:59, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Don't tell me what i deserve from my point of view your just as libel yourself. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 01:05, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Okay, in light of the veiled threats and your complete and utter lack of remorse or understanding of how, exactly, you crossed the line, you've been indefinitely blocked until you demonstrate that your behavior will actually be corrected if you return. If you'd like to participate in the Heartless Manufactory, that would work, or you could simply make it clear on this talk page that you understand which rules you broke and commit to not breaking them again. Once you can do that, I can support removing the block. Have a good day, I hope you're able to find a project that doesn't stress you out this much."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:33, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Well i can try to improve at least. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Look i know what i did was incriminating but i still find difficulty to accept responsibility for my own actions its really hard to keep my own head down when i feel baited i have a persecution complex i think i'm not really sure how to change so i can avoid being in situations like this or the words that come with it for that matter. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 16:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

When I blocked you and you didn't say a word against it, I took it as a sign you understood why you're being blocked and tried to better yourself in the future. Your behavior towards Kryten is unacceptable, but you do acknowledged that what you said to was wrong and are trying to improve. If you're willingly to accept responsibility, please prove it by continuing to show a willingness improve and move past all of this, okay?--NinjaSheik 19:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

I will try to avoid any unnecessary and uncomfortable entanglements. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 19:49, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

https://discord.gg/sBGeUGt Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 19:31, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

I will be on here if anyone wishes to discuss things with me. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 17:14, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I have not seen any new development in regards to my current situation. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 18:05, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

NinjaShiek

Can we talk someplace? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk)

Do not hide your messages since it count as evidence. I have changed your block back to two weeks. I'm editing on my phone right now, so let me be frank: If you truly wish to make amends, carry out the rest of your punishment quietly, and once it is over, you can come back. Show that you capable of keeping your word by showing that you are making a genuine effort to work on your behavior and improve yourself. Acknowledging your own misbehavior and promising to improve yourself is a good first step, so prove it when your block is over.--NinjaSheik 04:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Well i had to get you and Kyro attention somehow and if its not too much to ask can you please change it to a week since the block started a week ago and i don't want to miss my chance to upload images from E3. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 14:29, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

The point of the block is not to be convenient to you, Byz."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:46, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

It isn't but it already has been a week. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 14:52, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Kyro just to be clear i do understand my part in all this i was the catalyst i do understand my role in the situation i inadvertently caused i should have just spoken to an Admin about a language rule instead of just putting myself in the conversation where the profanity took place also Ninja i only did that remove the message from the wall thing to get your attention you were not really responding so i had to do something drastic besides i originally just wanted to cross out what was said to better deal with this whole situation. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 17:29, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Don't make an excuse for what you did. Everyone knows, across all wikias, that removing messages from your talk page is against the rules. Moreover, you put "baited" in the Summary box for doing so, which makes me less inclined to believe you. Read this. As Kryten, the point of the block is not be convenient to you. The length of the ban is a reflection of your own actions, and the reasonable time it will take you to think about on your behavior and understand what you did wrong. Nothing more, nothing less.--NinjaSheik 21:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)