User:AlVan/Hate

Grow up

Erry - Fight and Away TALK - It is a massive shit taken on the display and functionality of the site purely to draw in more advertising cash. ~ 21:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC) Just grow up. You learn from your mistakes, you made lots but yet you did not learn. It is not our fault you didn't know what on Earth you're doing. OBVIOUSLY you'd be interested in the other site since they're all about community. We're about knowledge. We don't put down newcomers, we put them to the test on working under pressure. If you can't do that you probably aren't meant to be here. Thus you blew up under pressure, like so, and left to the other wiki. I won't apologize if I offended you, because this is real life.

Erry - Problem? TALK - U Mad? ~ 21:39, 30 September 2011 (UTC) Template says it all.

KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy." TALK - I'm going to try to be as polite as I can here, and only focus on the stuff that might help you in life; You need to listen to other people more. The whole debacle started at first because you ignored requests to not use talk pages as forums, and then got angry up when those talk pages were naturally deleted. The Aero thing was the same situation--I went to the effort of creating a list of what exactly needed fixing, and instead of following the list or even asking how to do what was still incomplete, you just marked the sections as "done". We got angry at you because you just didn't care to listen when we tried to explain things to you. You need to have more tact. When you brought up the other wiki...how could you not see that you were blatantly implying that you thought we sucked? You outright said "Was the move a mistake? I think so." You were calling us idiots for the decision we had made, and regardless of whether you may have been right or not (I don't think you were, but everyone's allowed to defend their position), that's going to piss people off. You need to step out of denial. We did not at all expect you to know how to do everything, and we spent a good long period trying to teach you and correct you before getting frustrated when you refused to listen. You need to get a more accurate opinion of the worth of your opinions. The whole "posting forum-material on talk pages thing"? You explicitly said that it was because people weren't responding to your forums. Well...maybe that's because what you were saying simply wasn't interesting. You seem to have this idea that everything you think and say should be perused and applauded by everyone else, and...that's just going to lead to letdowns in your life. You need to focus on how you can provide for those around you, rather than how you can get other people pay attention to you. More than anything else, you seem to have an issue with needing people to like and listen to you, rather than trying to simply do your part in making something good. Facebook and places like it might encourage an ego-masturbatory mindset, but encyclopedias, wikis, do not. In real life, the parts of it that are at all worthwhile, it's the same. On a wiki, people respect the thing we are working together to create. We do not respect celebrities, or people trying to become them. Hell, I'm one of two chief editors to this thing, and I'd love for people to stop saying "This is the right thing to do because Kryten said to do it," but rather "This is the right thing to do." The Keyhole might feel like a better fit for you now, but I guarantee you, if you keep up with these behaviors, you're going to be in for more letdowns. Even if you decide not to come back here, I urge you to step back and evaluate your actions, and try to learn from them.

AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know. TALK - {{{time}}} What part of do not try to contact me do you not understand!? Shut Up!!!!! Shut up!!! I am tired of arguing with you guys! I have not spoken to you people in over a month I am not trying to argue for my own amusement! I'm just tying up loose ends and ditching you guys. I said nothing offensive on my user page! Now if you can't just say Bye and shut up, then back off stalkers!

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! Play this for fitting ambience while you read. AlVan... I... I've been trying to be as nice as I can to you, because I think everyone deserves that much. But in reality... I was frustrated. I wanted to be your friend. I really wanted you to fit in here. But the more I watched you, the more I realized... this isn't your place. You want attention, someone to talk to, a place where you can say something- anything- and people will respond. But that is not how real life works. Even on the internet. This wiki is a place where you make friends not through what you say, but through what you do. We're all striving for the same goal, trying to put in as much effort as we can, and learning to respect each other and become friends along the way. And if that's not what you're looking for, then you need to look somewhere else. That's the truth. Yes, everyone here tends to criticize the work of people who are new- I remember constantly getting reminders about what does and doesn't match the wiki's policy. But the important thing is not the mistake, nor is it the criticism that comes after. What's important is that you learn from the mistake, that you take the advice to heart and go forth trying to make sure you don't repeat your history. If all you do is complain about how people always yell at you for falling out of line, what is there to gain? You are automatically destined to repeat your mistakes if you don't learn from them. And that is truly a waste. Every rule here is put in place for a reason, and part of being a member of any community is that you follow them, no matter how ridiculous they may seem to you. The same applies here, on the internet. Part of why so many people "attacked" you is that you constantly broke these rules. Everyone is bound by the same code of honor; what gives you the right above everyone else to defy it? Mistakes like those deserve to be called out, as they were. Which brings me back to the above point: the important thing is that you learn why your actions were wrong and try not to repeat them, which you did not do. All because you wanted people to notice you, to talk to you and become your friend. But, as stated above, that is not how this wiki works. I know you are probably infuriated that I agree with them, but it needs to be said: when people work in groups, their true characters are revealed. You may have seen this playing on a sports team or working on a school project, but it applies as much here. Only when you work together with someone and learn of their true nature can you really decide if they are worthy of being your friend. And maybe right now, reading this, you think that I'm not worthy of being yours. But that is beside the point. The bonds formed between friends who work together are infinitely stronger than those formed through idle banter. And that is where true happiness lies. Please, go to Kingdom Hearts Wikia if you want to that badly. But I am here to tell you, from the bottom of my heart, that the community there will never make you truly happy. Only this one can do that. Goodbye, AlVan. This was the way it was meant to be.

Purpose

If you hate me, say it here. Do not insult me through my talk page. AlVan 22:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't hate you man, not at all. Don't think anyone does. Some people may have disagreed with your behavior at certain points, but I don't think anyone ever hated you. LightRoxas 23:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)