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| :Sure, but since its role, function, and origin are different than the natural one, can it still be called "the Keyhole of Hollow Bastion"? --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 06:13, December 7, 2010 (UTC) | | :Sure, but since its role, function, and origin are different than the natural one, can it still be called "the Keyhole of Hollow Bastion"? --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 06:13, December 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | ::It probably can but it does not protect the heart, so isn't Hollow Bastion still prone to Heartless attack? In addition to that, I just started wondering, why didn't Hollow Bastion fall to Darkness and end up in End of the World. Unless an artificial heart was made within the artificial Keyhole, not only that but would the place where that contraption which appears in End of the World, that the corridor with the Heartless Emblem actually leads to the door that leads to the true Keyhole? That the true heart of Hollow Bastion is within darkness, now released but still prone to Darkness overtakes? I think I just confused myself. ._. {{User:Erry/Sig4}} 06:39, December 7, 2010 (UTC) |
Revision as of 06:39, 7 December 2010
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xNaminéx - 大キライだけど好き! TALK - I am...glad.
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Where did the name "Keblade of People's Hearts" come from?
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KrytenKoro - "I'm the doctor, I'm the patient. Don't forget that - it's important! If you love me like I love me, everybody will be sorry." TALK -
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This is the only official term for it, given by Nomura in the Director's Report.
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- What's the Japanese name? I wanna see if I can come up with a translation that's less...I dunno, lame. No offense. But something like "Keyblade of the Hearts of Man" sounds better, right?—Urutapu 17:16, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Hearts
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Nitrous X Merry Christmas! — I have identified the scent. It is...Christmas! "When did that happen? You were always terrified of Santa before-"
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Do you think the Princesses of Heart could summon this without being in a comotose?
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Common sense says no, because if they're not comatose, they'll need their hearts with them. Their hearts fused to form this Keyblade, and for that, their hearts should be out of their bodies.
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There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:14, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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Nitrous X Merry Christmas! — I have identified the scent. It is...Christmas! "When did that happen? You were always terrified of Santa before-"
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Darn... I was hoping to use it in the fanfiction I'm writing, but sleppy Kairi won't work.
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Well now that Nomura-san has detailed everything (almost), we can only watch and wait.
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 04:10, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
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Dark Keyblade
Though I had expected it to be removed, I'm still curious as to why this is so when this Wiki itself uses that term for it frequently. Doreiku Kuroofangu 10:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
- We have a name for it, and "Dark Keyblade" is never used in official material, to my knowledge. If it is, we can readd it.Glorious CHAOS! 20:08, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Alright then, but if we have an official name why are we still using fan-coined names? Doreiku Kuroofangu 21:05, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Still waiting on an answer. I'm fine with using the official name, I'm just looking for some consistency as all. "Dark Keyblade" is even the phrase being used on Wikipedia, and like I said before I see the term used a lot in the fandom. Doreiku Kuroofangu 08:01, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I've no idea, honestly. Has it been referred to as the Dark Keyblade in any of the guides (Ultimania even) ? If not, then I think we should switch it to Keyblade of People's Hearts. Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 08:04, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
- It's already titled that. I had added a bit "also known as the Dark Keyblade". Besides using the term in pages, the Wiki here also has a redirect with that name. I'm just saying, if the fan name is going to be used here, whats the harm is noting it on the page itself? And if the fan name isn't going to be used, why are we using it? Doreiku Kuroofangu 08:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Hm. Weird. Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 08:33, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Since no one cares enough about the Dark Keyblade thing, something else to bring up. Apparently BBS mentions this Keyblade in Xehanort Report #6. Taken from a GameFaqs forum:
- "Report 6, there are three types of keyblade, keyblade of the world of light, of the world of darkness, and of one's heart. The keyblade of one's heart is a by product of the war, without it, you cant reach Kingdom Hearts. If to collect 7 hearts of pure light, you can complete the Keyblade of One's Heart, to open Kingdom Hearts. if one could open Kingdom Hearts, it means one can obtain all worlds and people in their hands"
- Just a note, obviously the translation is spotty but it seems a reference to this Keyblade. Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Judging by the fact that it uses exactly the same name, yes.Glorious CHAOS! 06:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
Incomplete
"As an incomplete Keyblade, it lacks a keychain."
Where is this stated, the reason it doesn't have a Keychain? There could be several reasons, unless the above has been directly stated. Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
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I don't remember hearing that either. Maybe I missed something. Or speculation?
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Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.
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Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 04:34, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
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I had assumed that it lacked a Keychain because it was an artificial Keyblade, though given where the series has gone, what does and doesn't count as a legit form of Keyblade creation is kinda hard to tell.
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It's hard to say where this Keyblade really came from. It was either created in KH or is a really ancient one. Hard to say which.
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Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.
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KrytenKoro - "It's always best when the other chap is willing to die for his beliefs; you both have the same goal in mind." TALK -
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Well, it's outright stated that it's incomplete, by Leon, and then by Nomura.
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Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 14:02, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
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No question that the Keyblade is incomplete. The question is, is that the reason it has no Keychain?
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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Theory time! I think that if the keyblade contained Kairi's heart like originally planned by Xehanort's Heartless (Thus completing the keyblade) then it would have a keychain.
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Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}}
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That make sense
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As of birth by sleep's release this and the dead ones in the Keyblade graveyard are the only ones without keychains.No Idea what that means but there you go.204.211.185.107 15:12, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Move Template
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The Yoshiman 97 - "Mario! Is that really you?" TALK - 00:02, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
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Is the template still needed? The Keyblad of People's Hearts seems to be the only name given to the Keyblade.
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- Like the template says, the Xehanort Report gives it a modified name.Glorious CHAOS! 04:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
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The Yoshiman 97 - "Mario! Is that really you?" TALK - 20:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
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Alright, didn't see that.
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Just Clarifying
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Zaqaree - Cinderella: Your Grace, please wait. You see, I have the other slipper. TALK - Lady Tremaine: FFFFFFUUUUUUU--
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The KOPH unlocks the Final Keyhole, NOT THE KEYHOLE OF HOLLOW BASTION. Thank you.
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- The quote specifically says it unlocks the Keyhole of Hollow Bastion.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 04:12, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
"Of" or "in"? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 04:26, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but however, the Final Keyhole in Kingdom Hearts IS Hollow Bastion's keyhole... or at least, the artificial one. User:Erry/Sig4 06:10, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, but since its role, function, and origin are different than the natural one, can it still be called "the Keyhole of Hollow Bastion"? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 06:13, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
- It probably can but it does not protect the heart, so isn't Hollow Bastion still prone to Heartless attack? In addition to that, I just started wondering, why didn't Hollow Bastion fall to Darkness and end up in End of the World. Unless an artificial heart was made within the artificial Keyhole, not only that but would the place where that contraption which appears in End of the World, that the corridor with the Heartless Emblem actually leads to the door that leads to the true Keyhole? That the true heart of Hollow Bastion is within darkness, now released but still prone to Darkness overtakes? I think I just confused myself. ._. User:Erry/Sig4 06:39, December 7, 2010 (UTC)