Talk:Kingdom Key

Mickey's Keyblade

"he obtained when traveling through the Realm of Darkness"

I've seen this on a few pages and I still don't get where its coming from. Mickey's keyblade was first SEEN in the Realm of Darkness, when he and Sora seal the door. But this is also the first time MICKEY is seen. I dont know where people are getting that thats where he got the keyblade. Could anyone tell me where this idea comes from? Zephyrus11 23:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's another thought : there's speculative info on Terra and Ven taking the Kingdom Key and the Way to the Dawn respectively. Someone added it in. I didn't remove it for now. Should I remove it ? It's the last sentence in the article, take a look. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

I've checked through the Ansem Reports, and they don't even mention there being a keyblade for each world. I'm pretty sure this was just a fan theory back on the boards to explain Riku, Mickey, and Sora, since I remember it from there, and I'm not sure it has any real basis in canon.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 17:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Read here http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/another-report/pages-28-29/#ar

Yen sid says it in kh2.--74.210.24.180 22:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Removed from page

The key chain attached (the Mickey Mouse insignia) draws out the Keyblade's true form and power. King Mickey uses a similar weapon that he obtained when traveling through the Realm of Darkness. It was forged in the Realm of Light opposite to King Mickey's being forged in the Realm of Darkness.

I couldn't find or remember anything backing this up, so I moved it from the article.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 17:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

again http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/another-report/pages-28-29/#ar

By that measure, I think that claim would belong on the Keyblade page, not here.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The thing about "True form and power" comes from KH2 in game description. Myself 123 18:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

That description even appeared in KH1. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Where does that description appear? My item screen only talks about its ability.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 04:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

When you select items/weapons/accessories for Sora, take a look at the Keyblades. The description appears on the bottom of the screen, if I'm not mistaken (for it's been ages since I played KH1). Whilst for other Keychains, the description talks about their reach/their critical finishes etc., the description that appears when the Kingdom Key is selected (or even hovered over) does talk about its "true form and power". Edit: I put the sentence about "true form and power" back into the article. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

I haven't checked KH1 yet, but KH2's description definitely doesn't have what you guys are saying it does:

"A keychain attached to the Keyblade. Increases defense at critical moments."

I've also gone through all the cutscenes up to Sora's first, and I didn't see a "Weapon Get" for the Kingdom Key that could possibly have this text.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 05:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Check KH1. I'm positive it's at the description at the bottom of the screen. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Okay, KH1 has "The key chain attached draws out the Keyblade's true form and power." Got it.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 05:20, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Images

It was agreed that when there was more than one infobox, the image would be in the lead (in fact, this might be for every Keyblade regardless). So, since we have the Kingdom Key image in the lead, we don't use it in the infoboxes.Glorious CHAOS! 22:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

358/2 Info Box

is there a better way to have the 358/2 Days infobox to not have roxas/xion's data all over sora's? right now it's annoying as all hell to look at (pardon my language). [this is also a problem i have with Frozen Pride] --Neumannz 07:09, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I suppose it would be possible to move the unit boosts into a separate cell, but the Kingdom Key is the same weapon, so I don't know how we'd appropriately separate Sora and Roxas's versions. A lot of the data, like the abilities and description, does overlap. I guess it could be possible to separate it into "Days (Roxas/Xion)" and "Days (Sora)", but that's kind of inelegant.Glorious CHAOS! 07:43, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I remade the template, the problem is solved.

Days and KH2

What cutscenes does only the KK appear in? I believe the only uncontrollable ones would be Roxas's memories. If so, could someone list those, so we can mention those in the article.Glorious CHAOS! 22:47, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ventus's Keyblade?

UnknownEnigma - In the meantime, would you be interested in meeting another who is considered a hero? TALK - Your existence is worth nothing! There is a line in one of the first few paragraphs that talks about Ventus's keyblade. Should this stay in the article? Perhaps a discussion about it would be necessary. Oh, yes. A "citation is needed" superscript is placed by it.

Xions Keyblade?

how did roxas get ventus's keyblade when he absorbed xion?

Either witnessing Xion's death or absorbing Sora's memories that Xion contained awoken the ability to dual-wield within Roxas. --ΧƳƵach. 01:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Key+ vs Kingdom Key++

Possibly an interesting trivia note, because Roxas/ Xion's Kingdom Key+ is only equitable through the Zero Gear, it is a higher quality weapon than Sora's Kingdom Key++, which is equitable via Omega Gear, Omega Gear+, Champion Gear, Champion Gear+, Ultimate Gear, and Ultimate Gear+.--ΧƳƵach. 01:46, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

don't get it

when the heartless got stronger i used metal chocoobo and it was weak but when i used the kingdom key it was stronger65.32.75.73 20:51, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but...what? maggosh 20:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think he/she means that the Kingdom Key was stronger than the Metal Chocobo. More likely that you were just at a higher level.LapisLazuliScarab20:59, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

i might have because i had dawn or the fact that i got better critical combos before that or that or lapis sacrab might be right P.S sorry for the confusion maggosh65.32.75.73 23:16, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Appearences

Secret agent clank - Good, let's see what you're made of. TALK - Exactly what I said, idiot. - {{{time}}} It also appeares in BBS but in the X-Blade's design.

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} That's not the same thing

Secret agent clank - Good, let's see what you're made of. TALK - Exactly what I said, idiot. - {{{time}}} Maybe not, but it does appear. It could also be in the Trivia section.

CaelumLucisCaliga Talk! - Join the Darkness. We have cookies. Dark Chocolate Chip Cookies! — 20:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC) It's not the same at all. Kingdom Key ITSELF has to appear. That's like saying the Wayfinder appears in Days because it's on Oathkeeper. I understand where you're getting this from, but it's just not right.

Pictures...

Dbdbz Talk to Me! — Don't ever forget, wherever you go, I'm always with you. He's far away, but I know we'll see him again. — 22:10, December 2, 2010 (UTC) I think that we should have a gallery of the way the Kingdom Keyblade looks in each world of Kingdom Hearts 2.

Sorce or its just spaculation.

The Kingdom Key draws out the true power of Sora's Keyblade, even though it is not the strongest Keychain. As such, it is the true form of his Keyblade, which means that it is also the default form of Roxas's and Xion's Keyblades.

Were was it said that the Kingdom Key is just the base form of Sora's Keyblade and not the base form of all Keyblades? Because as far as I've seen that's just a fan wank on the scale of Ridley being cloned between games.Ether101 Prime 11:50, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

....it's the official description for the Kingdom Key. In like, every game that it appears in.

You didn't look real hard before crying that it must be fake, did you?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:48, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, are you talking Ridley from Metroid? Dude, they outright say he was cloned in Metroid Fusion. You get to see it."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:49, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

KrytenKoro, there's nothing in any of the games that suggest that the Kingdom Key discretion is referring to Sora's Keyblade alone and as far I've read it isn't supposed to be taken that way. Unless someone can prove otherwise this is nothing short of a fan wank that being passed off as truth just like how people such as yourself believe that Redliy is cloned between games even thou there's proof to the contrary but that's an example so lets drop it or you can show your argument to here.Ether101 Prime 07:03, February 6, 2011 (UTC)