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== From Sora ==
This is a secret movie in Kingdom Hearts. During a storm, a hooded [[Roxas]] walks through the [[The World That Never Was|Dark City]], located in the [[The World That Never Was]], towards the [[The World That Never Was|Memory's Skyscraper]]. [[Neoshadow]]s rise from the ground, many surrounding Roxas. The camera shifts, it moves towards a blindfolded [[Riku]], in [[Organization XIII]] [[Black Cloak]], and on top of Memory's Skyscraper. To defend himself, Roxas pulls out the [[Oblivion]] and [[Oathkeeper]] [[Keyblade]]s. Riku looks to the sky, where clouds part to reveal a meteor shower. A purple, glowing heart shape surrounds Roxas. Riku takes off his blindfold. Roxas asks a question: ''"Where's Sora?"''
The screen blacks out, and quotes fly by, ending with ''"We'll go together"''. A flash, then the words ''"Kingdom Hearts"'' appears. It fades to a [[Destiny Islands|beach]] where [[Kairi]] looks at a meteor fall.

Revision as of 05:47, 27 April 2010

Hey, i was wondering why we have 3 pages with basically the same name(2 with the exact) and the exact information? Couldn't we change one of these to be the Deep Dive version?

hi i was watching a video on youtube (here's the link)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tCY_gG-uZE&feature=related and i stopped on 2:07 and i saw the words the gathering and i thought of the gathering as in the secret kingdom hearts 2 ending and i thought wow! Darksoldier 12:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Quotes

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Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity
User Talk · Sandbox · 358/2 Days Guide · 09:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking we could identify the points where the quotes are actually used, i.e. bearing in mind the fact that they were retroactively inserted into KHII. These are the ones I can remember singular instances for:


  • "The door to the light"
Multiple mentions
  • "This time I'll fight"
Kairi, when Riku gives her a Keyblade in the WTNW
  • "Your highness... but why?"
?
  • "Behind the Darkness"
?
  • "This is the world in its true form"
?
  • "We have come for you. My Liege"
Dusk, to Roxas during the Photograph Theft incident
  • "You are the source of all heartless"
Xemnas to Ansem before the KH Encoder blows up
  • "Maybe our journey meant nothing after all"
Sora after Saïx tells him about the Organization's plan
  • "Who is Nobody you ask? They are the non-existent ones"
?
  • "His voice... I don't hear it any more"
Kairi to Selphie, on the subject of Sora
  • "Can we do it? Against That"
I think this is Sora, possibly to Riku in the WTNW, but I can't remember...
  • "Sora... Why?"
?
  • "Is this the answer you've been looking for?"
?
  • "What is this place?"
?
  • "What took you so long, Kairi?"
Axel to Kairi in Twilight Town (I never understood quite what he meant by this, tbh)
  • "It's not over yet"
?
  • "Sora"
Multiple instances, duh
  • "Paradise"
?
  • "We'll go together"
Sora to Riku at the end, also paraphrased as "We will go together" by Xemnas to Sora


There's also:

  • "He looks just like you"
Sort of retconned to "He looks a lot like you" in KHII


Worth adding?

Category: Suggestion


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Xaity - You should share your power
TALK - I picked up two scents in the castle's lowest basement. One of them was Maleficent.
Zexion_blue_zpsf66e0598.png The "He looks just like you is what Xemnas says to Sora after the battle in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix

"It's not over yet" is after the final boss fight when Sora and Riku are surrounded by Dusks. BTW, Riku is the one who said it.Keyblade474 19:10, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

"Who is Nobody you ask? They are the non-existent ones," sounds like Yen Sid. It was probably cleaned up to deal with the inconsistent grammar in the English version.—Urutapu 01:27, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

"Your highness... but why?" is in the final Twilight Town visit when Sora asks Mickey why he can't say where Riku is. Keyblade474 20:22, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

keyblades

Hey, I saw that Roxas was holding the Kingdom Key and Oathkeeper in his hands after he threw Oblivion to Riku.


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Xaity - You should share your power
TALK - Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing! Nothing but a mere illusion!
Zexion_blue_zpsf66e0598.png This is a talk page where you suppose to use talking bubbles so we know who you are!

2nd-No, He's holding Oathkeeper and Oblivion at the begining and after that he's throwing Oblivion at Riku, but isted of getting hitted he catched it.

"He looks just like you/He looks a lot like you"

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Xemwath - You are my living legacy.
TALK - SOLDIER 1st Class Zack!
He looks just like you/He looks a lot like you". Me personally, I don't see much of a resemblance between Sora and Roxas. Do you think he was comparing Roxas' physical appearance to Vens? Please note that Xenmas called Aqua's armor "friend" so he obviously knew them.

Neoshadows' Role

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 04:27, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png I believe we say the Neoshadows chase after Roxas's Keyblade as he flees the Org., as the Nobodies are no longer protecting him from them, meaning they spawn due to free will. Days proves the opposite. The Neoshadows are summoned when Roxas RETURNS TO TWTNW TO GET KH AND XION to reclaim the Keyblade wielding Nobody. Evidence is that Xemnas requests Saix retrieve Roxas after Xion's fall. It is then safe to assume Saix summons the Neo's to reclaim Roxas. Evidence on the contrary, however... Roxas can destroy the Neo's, and I'm not sure the Org. can control them yet (I think this starts in KHII w/ the whole Saix ordeal). Anyways, the Neoshadows have a shifted role, either way you slice it or dice it. I'm not sure if this should be mentioned here or not, like in a Days heading or something, as we know Days's ending is based off of this film clip.

If they were going to summon heartless it would have been neo shadows,(they were after hearts...)

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 23:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Earthshaker Keychain KHBBS.png They didn't want Hearts, though, as the "normal" Org. members can't extract them. Only the Keyblade master can, which is Roxas, since Sora is still asleep, or Xion, but since Xion is dead, Roxas is theo only one left. Whether they can actually summon the Heartless is the question. While I see there are some stupid, obvious answers, really think about what I'm saying. The can't just extract hearts without a Keybearer. Since one's dormant, one's dead, they need to reclaim their traitor. Xemnas himself tells Saix to fetch him Roxas after Xion's death.
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Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity
User Talk · Sandbox · 358/2 Days Guide · 00:08, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
I think we can safely say that this issue is only relevant to 358/2 Days, yes? After all, that's when the event in question occurs. So technically, the answer is that the Neoshadows are there simply because they were seen in this FMV, and it would be a ridiculously painful and stupid retcon to try and remove them in Days.

If this purely pedantic solution does not satisfy you, I offer the following contextual one: we know that Heartless are drawn to the Keybearer, in an attempt to claim his/her heart. The fact that the particular wielder in this case is a Nobody is immaterial; the Keyblade is the homing beacon that the Heartless instinctively target. There's also the issue of Roxas having something that appears very much to be a heart, but that's mostly a separate issue. Anyway, we also know that the World That Never Was is perilously close to the Darkness, and that Neoshadows spawn at Memory's Skyscraper (as any KHII player can confirm). So there's little reason to suppose that anything changed significantly to trigger the assault, with the possible exception of the fact that, yes, the Organization is no longer protecting Roxas. I doubt the Neoshadows were sent by Saïx, as surely he'd send Nobodies instead?

On a tangential note: I am not sure quite what Xemnas hoped to achieve by ordering Saïx to retrieve Roxas. After all, the Luna Diviner had already demonstrated that he is no match for the Key to Destiny. Perhaps Xemnas is punishing Saïx for allowing Roxas to leave by sending him for another ignominious beating? :P

Category: Speculation

From Sora

This is a secret movie in Kingdom Hearts. During a storm, a hooded Roxas walks through the Dark City, located in the The World That Never Was, towards the Memory's Skyscraper. Neoshadows rise from the ground, many surrounding Roxas. The camera shifts, it moves towards a blindfolded Riku, in Organization XIII Black Cloak, and on top of Memory's Skyscraper. To defend himself, Roxas pulls out the Oblivion and Oathkeeper Keyblades. Riku looks to the sky, where clouds part to reveal a meteor shower. A purple, glowing heart shape surrounds Roxas. Riku takes off his blindfold. Roxas asks a question: "Where's Sora?"

The screen blacks out, and quotes fly by, ending with "We'll go together". A flash, then the words "Kingdom Hearts" appears. It fades to a beach where Kairi looks at a meteor fall.